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[ma330]

I need information about a mfd project.And I need a schematic for mfd.Can anyone help me?

[J_Player]

I need information about a mfd project.And I need a schematic for mfd.Can anyone help me?

This is the most often used kind of MFD which some people say they have success with: http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...mfd1/index.dat
You can find instructions also for making the rods here: http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...lrl1/index.dat
This is the same kind that Dell Winders sells as Omnitron, and many others make copies.



When you finish the circuit you can connect the signal out (+) and (-) to the two brass rods that you push into the ground.
Turn R5 to make adjustment of how much voltage you send to the brass rods.
Turn S2 to switch to different frequency.
S1 is to turn off power.


Best wishes,
J_P

[ma330]

This is the most often used kind of MFD which some people say they have success with: http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...mfd1/index.dat
You can find instructions also for making the rods here: http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...lrl1/index.dat
This is the same kind that Dell Winders sells as Omnitron, and many others make copies.



When you finish the circuit you can connect the signal out (+) and (-) to the two brass rods that you push into the ground.
Turn R5 to make adjustment of how much voltage you send to the brass rods.
Turn S2 to switch to different frequency.
S1 is to turn off power.


Best wishes,
J_P

tank you j-p
I know this much about this circuit.
I want to know how to find gold and silver, this circuit helps? What reaction occurs When the probe is connected to the earth?
8038 will produce a sine wave with a frequency 5 kHz and 8.7 kHz.
I believe you instead of the Ic 8038 using a sine wave producing circuit 386, and instead of a transistor amplifier used for current and more
ok?

[J_Player]

tank you j-p
I know this much about this circuit.
I want to know how to find gold and silver, this circuit helps? What reaction occurs When the probe is connected to the earth?
8038 will produce a sine wave with a frequency 5 kHz and 8.7 kHz.
I believe you instead of the Ic 8038 using a sine wave producing circuit 386, and instead of a transistor amplifier used for current and more
ok?

Hi ma330,
There are many MFD designs which will put out a frequency.
Some designs use a digital oscillator like a 555 or simple digital gates set to produce square waves.
The preferred method is to use a frequency generator IC that can produce a sine wave.
The 8038 is obsolete, and there are several others that replaced it.
You can also make a transistor amplifier that can produce good sine waves or sloppy sine waves depending on how complicated you want to make it.

Most MFD users think that low power is good, and high power will not work very well for locating metal.
But a few say they like more power.
You could use an audio amplifier connected to the output if you want more power.
But you will probably need an amplifier that uses a higher voltage than most audio amplifiers if you want to pass more current through the ground.
Keep in mind most MFD users think high current is not necessary.
They prefer the 5 volt or 9 volt low power designs that pass small current.

The frequency will not be the exact amount you want.
You will need to make adjustments to the capacitor values at C1 and C2 to until you have the exact frequency you want.
If you are using a function generator IC to make the frequency, and you are using polycarbonate film capacitors, then the frequency will be very stable, and will not change much when the temperature changes.

how to find gold and silver, this circuit helps?
What reaction occurs When the probe is connected to the earth?

Here is what the person who posted that circuit says:

How to use the MFD:
At this point you should be ready to try out the MFD. Insert the two probes into the ground about 2-3 feet apart. Using banana wires connect the probes to the MFD transmitter. Turn on the transmitter and grab the L-rods. Walk a circle (about 10-12 feet out) around the probes until the L-rods cross - you have located a potential signal line. Mark this point. Imagine a line connecting the marked spot and the middle of the probe area. Move farther away (say, 30 feet) along this line and, using the L-rods, try to locate the signal line. Continue moving away from the probes as long as you are able to detect the signal line. Make sure you mark all of your signal hits.

MFD Techniques:
At some point as you move farther away from the probes you will cease detecting the signal line. If you detect a signal line out to a certain distance from the probes but the signal seems to stop, then where it stops should be the location of the target. Before you dig, you can verify this by moving the probes 90 degrees around the target point and triangulating. The target will be at the location where the signal lines cross.

MFD Triangulation:
There are two potential pitfalls with MFDs and both are due to the incredible sensitivity. An MFD has the ability to pick up target signals from as much as 10 miles away, though 1-3 miles is more typical. This means that it can take quite some time and effort to trace out the signal line. Once you have the target pinpointed you may have to face another problem: depth. The MFD can detect targets as deep as 100-200 feet, so locating the target is only half the battle. If a metal detector does not verify the existance of a metal target at the identified location then you should bring in excavation equipment. If no obvious target is found when you reach 200 feet, then the target was most likely subatomic gold particles - you cannot see it and most chemical analyses will not detect it either, but the MFD will.

Be certain to read all of his instructions including the end of what he says for using it and making detection.
He says you should be ready to bring tractors and backhoes to dig a big enough hole to find the buried treasure, because you may have a hard time to find it even if you have metal detectors.

Also read what he says at the end of his project for building the rods:
At this point I hope you have built and tested some of the described LRLs.
They are fascinating devices, not in the sense that they can locate remote buried treasure - which they cannot - but in the effect they can have on the psychology of the user.

According to the designer of this circuit, MFD generators cannot locate treasure.
But if you want to believe it can locate treasure, then I am sure you will find people who will tell you what you want to hear.


Best wishes,
J_P

[ma330]

Hi ma330,
There are many MFD designs which will put out a frequency.
Some designs use a digital oscillator like a 555 or simple digital gates set to produce square waves.
The preferred method is to use a frequency generator IC that can produce a sine wave.
The 8038 is obsolete, and there are several others that replaced it.
You can also make a transistor amplifier that can produce good sine waves or sloppy sine waves depending on how complicated you want to make it.

Most MFD users think that low power is good, and high power will not work very well for locating metal.
But a few say they like more power.
You could use an audio amplifier connected to the output if you want more power.
But you will probably need an amplifier that uses a higher voltage than most audio amplifiers if you want to pass more current through the ground.
Keep in mind most MFD users think high current is not necessary.
They prefer the 5 volt or 9 volt low power designs that pass small current.

The frequency will not be the exact amount you want.
You will need to make adjustments to the capacitor values at C1 and C2 to until you have the exact frequency you want.
If you are using a function generator IC to make the frequency, and you are using polycarbonate film capacitors, then the frequency will be very stable, and will not change much when the temperature changes.

how to find gold and silver, this circuit helps?
What reaction occurs When the probe is connected to the earth?

Here is what the person who posted that circuit says:

How to use the MFD:
At this point you should be ready to try out the MFD. Insert the two probes into the ground about 2-3 feet apart. Using banana wires connect the probes to the MFD transmitter. Turn on the transmitter and grab the L-rods. Walk a circle (about 10-12 feet out) around the probes until the L-rods cross - you have located a potential signal line. Mark this point. Imagine a line connecting the marked spot and the middle of the probe area. Move farther away (say, 30 feet) along this line and, using the L-rods, try to locate the signal line. Continue moving away from the probes as long as you are able to detect the signal line. Make sure you mark all of your signal hits.

MFD Techniques:
At some point as you move farther away from the probes you will cease detecting the signal line. If you detect a signal line out to a certain distance from the probes but the signal seems to stop, then where it stops should be the location of the target. Before you dig, you can verify this by moving the probes 90 degrees around the target point and triangulating. The target will be at the location where the signal lines cross.

MFD Triangulation:
There are two potential pitfalls with MFDs and both are due to the incredible sensitivity. An MFD has the ability to pick up target signals from as much as 10 miles away, though 1-3 miles is more typical. This means that it can take quite some time and effort to trace out the signal line. Once you have the target pinpointed you may have to face another problem: depth. The MFD can detect targets as deep as 100-200 feet, so locating the target is only half the battle. If a metal detector does not verify the existance of a metal target at the identified location then you should bring in excavation equipment. If no obvious target is found when you reach 200 feet, then the target was most likely subatomic gold particles - you cannot see it and most chemical analyses will not detect it either, but the MFD will.

Be certain to read all of his instructions including the end of what he says for using it and making detection.
He says you should be ready to bring tractors and backhoes to dig a big enough hole to find the buried treasure, because you may have a hard time to find it even if you have metal detectors.

Also read what he says at the end of his project for building the rods:
At this point I hope you have built and tested some of the described LRLs.
They are fascinating devices, not in the sense that they can locate remote buried treasure - which they cannot - but in the effect they can have on the psychology of the user.

According to the designer of this circuit, MFD generators cannot locate treasure.
But if you want to believe it can locate treasure, then I am sure you will find people who will tell you what you want to hear.


Best wishes,
J_P

Excellent j-p
Thank you for your useful information.
I suggest you do the work for voltage output, 5 to 9 volts?A sine wave oscillator and amplifier with low power for the common good?
Using a sine wave oscillator with two outputs and the ground What is it?
I completely did not understand some parts:
How to use the MFD:..............
MFD Techniques: .............
MFD Triangulation:.........................
It is possible for you to show me parts of the graphics?Painting?
The best moment for you

[J_Player]

Excellent j-p
Thank you for your useful information.
I suggest you do the work for voltage output, 5 to 9 volts?A sine wave oscillator and amplifier with low power for the common good?
Using a sine wave oscillator with two outputs and the ground What is it?
I completely did not understand some parts:
How to use the MFD:..............
MFD Techniques: .............
MFD Triangulation:.........................
It is possible for you to show me parts of the graphics?Painting?
The best moment for you

The circuit you see above is already a low power circuit which puts out a sine wave and does not need modifications.
You can adjust the voltage at R5 from zero volts to nearly 18 volts.

Best wishes,
J_P

[ma330]

The circuit you see above is already a low power circuit which puts out a sine wave and does not need modifications.
You can adjust the voltage at R5 from zero volts to nearly 18 volts.

Best wishes,
J_P

tank you j-p
I completely did not understand some parts:
How to use the MFD:..............
MFD Techniques: .............
MFD Triangulation:.........................
It is possible for you to show me parts of the graphics?Painting?
The best moment for you

[J_Player]

tank you j-p
I completely did not understand some parts:
How to use the MFD:..............
MFD Techniques: .............
MFD Triangulation:.........................
It is possible for you to show me parts of the graphics?Painting?
The best moment for you

MFD does not find treasure, so it does not matter how you use it ... all methods of using MFD will be good for locating nothing.
Even though I am telling you that no MFD generator will locate treasure for you, I know you will not believe me, and you will want to find someone who tells you it will find treasure.
So I will print below what the instructions in the project say to give instructions for finding treasure

The text for using the MFD project says you should turn on the power then connect the wires from the MFD box (+) and (-) to the two brass rods that you push in the ground 30-100cm apart.
Then hold the two L rods in your hands and walk in a circle around the two brass rods in the ground. (radius of your circle should be 3-4 meters).
Watch for when the two rods move to cross together.
When you see the rods move together, you have found a signal line.
If you find more than one place on your circle where the rods cross, then make a mark on the ground where it is so you can come back and check later.

Next you can pick one signal line and walk away from the two brass rods to follow it and see where it will go.
You must find where the end of the signal line is.
So you follow it until it ends.
When you reach a location where the signal line stops, then this is where the treasure is.
Stop at this point and dig for your treasure.

If you are not sure you have the exact correct treasure location, then you can use triangulation to check to see if it is the correct location.
To make a triangulation check, you can move the MFD and the two brass rods to a now place to put them in the ground.
Then follow the signal line again using your L- rods to see where the signal line ends.
You should see it ends the same place as the earlier location.
Then you can repeat the check by moving the MFD to many locations.
From each location you should find the signal line ends in the same treasure location where you can dig a hole to find your treasure.

As long as you know you will not find treasure, then you will not mind to dig holes to see if it works or not.

See below for the graphics that show the parts of the MFD generator.
Best wishes, J_P

[ma330]

tank you very much dear j-p for information
It is incomprehensible to me after finding the cross point.
What should be done after the signal line?
And the triangular points.
If it is possible to specify a graphic for me?Painting?
best wish for you

[J_Player]

tank you very much dear j-p for information
It is incomprehensible to me after finding the cross point.
What should be done after the signal line?
And the triangular points.
If it is possible to specify a graphic for me?Painting?
best wish for you

Here is a graphic that shows what to do when you use MFD.

Best wishes, J_P

[WM6]

Here is a graphic that shows what to do when you use MFD.

Best wishes, J_P

Excellent MFD user instructions J_P. Thank you.

Please, help me, help me, with that one MFD.

PS: Hey are you sure that counterclockwise walking can lead to such a huge nugget?

[J_Player]

Excellent MFD user instructions J_P. Thank you.

Please, help me, help me, with that one MFD.

PS: Hey are you sure that counterclockwise walking can lead to such a huge nugget?

It is best to walk clockwise if you are in the southern hemisphere... (Brazil, Paraguay, Australia), but counterclockwise is best for north of the equator.
In Ecuador, maybe you cannot use MFD to find nuggets.


Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

tank you very much dear j-p for information
It is incomprehensible to me after finding the cross point.
What should be done after the signal line?
And the triangular points.
If it is possible to specify a graphic for me?Painting?
best wish for you

Here is a graphic that shows how to use triangulation.

Best wishes, J_P

[ma330]

tank you very much j-p for useful information

[Dedevil]

Thank ou sooo muchy jp

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I know this much about this circuit.
I want to know how to find gold and silver, this circuit helps? What reaction occurs When the probe is connected to the earth?
8038 will produce a sine wave with a frequency 5 kHz and 8.7 kHz.
I believe you instead of the Ic 8038 using a sine wave producing circuit 386, and instead of a transistor amplifier used for current and more
ok?
Oh Carl You have lost it