New PDK

[Geo]

Hi Geo, good work. Again congratulation. we assume it's very very nice working detector and bla bala bla..... so what?

Frankly; we all know all members here are thirsty for complete information to make it as you yourself are such for a device. finally what will you do about informing us? Tell it honestly; do you have any decision to help us make it or no it's just a show of this device or like past, again some useless defective information to cutting our hands of accessing to a good LRL?

If is like past tell us from now to know not waste our times on this case.
of course I'm sure you won't give us the whole information.

Hi Michael.
It is not a easy project so to give it free to a forum.
In RS forum Morgan gave the schematic of PDK but nobody made it to work, so how they can make my project to work because it is very difficult????
I gave a general plan of it and some photos from inside so the members who interesting to work on it.
Forums are for ideas exchange not for suppling schematics.

Regards

[Morgan]

Hi Michael.
It is not a easy project so to give it free to a forum.
In RS forum Morgan gave the schematic of PDK but nobody made it to work, so how they can make my project to work because it is very difficult????
I gave a general plan of it and some photos from inside so the members who interesting to work on it.
Forums are for ideas exchange not for suppling schematics.

Regards

Thats correct,I GAVE THEM THE PDK SCHEMATIC !!! but nobody believe that is a working LRL schematic...

Thanks Geo

[Geo]

Hi Morgan.
I can't understand why you will stop the construction of PDKs???
There are many friends that they like a PDK by you, and some ""friends" who wants from you to stop to sell them.
My opinion is to continue constructing lrls, for the moment you sell the best LRL and maybe the only REAL lrl.

Regards

[nelson]

Sorry Geo

But who are you to tell us that this is not an easy project so to give it free to the forum?
Do you think we are stupids that we can think about how to solve "not easy projects" or you are so smart person that no one can go to your level in electronics?
Let me tell you someting, may be you have got success with pd like Morgan with pdk, but no one can disparage our knolegments in electronics unless is limited or advance.
If we (the forum members) are capable to build a metal detector with success and also implement to it some goods mods to allow a better machine, i think we understand electronics. Remeber long range detector are easier projects than a good metal detector like Delta Pulse for example. But Delta Pulse today has improved thanks to member support each other. So when you said that this is not an easy project so to give it free, i desagree cause the project indeed is an easy project, but to tune it correctly is the problem, so if you don´t contribute with full schematics i don´t understand why you are here or you are waiting for some inocent person that can help you secretely and after that you will continue to show members that you finally solve the problem for nuts and that now you have a 100% working pdk?
No my friend this is no the correct way to join a forum for mebers that have a compromise to help each other.
And if you want to know if i m upset with all this smoke curtains that for long time you and Morgan spread here, yes i m.

Sorry to other members, but i just realise this circus must be stopped.
Regards
Nelson

Hi Michael.
It is not a easy project so to give it free to a forum.
In RS forum Morgan gave the schematic of PDK but nobody made it to work, so how they can make my project to work because it is very difficult????
I gave a general plan of it and some photos from inside so the members who interesting to work on it.
Forums are for ideas exchange not for suppling schematics.

Regards

[nelson]

Yes, he sell the best LRL and maybe the only REAL lrl, THANKS TO GOOD MEMBERS HELP

Hi Morgan.
I can't understand why you will stop the construction of PDKs???
There are many friends that they like a PDK by you, and some ""friends" who wants from you to stop to sell them.
My opinion is to continue constructing lrls, for the moment you sell the best LRL and maybe the only REAL lrl.

Regards

[nelson]

No my friend, you are wrong.
This could be a working project if you have posted real information, cause every one has something to give based on correct mods and implementations.
Remember, we are gurus, but this is just the forum software that ascend us to gurus. In real world most of us , some not, are schematics cloners and reverse engeniering masters with smal electronics knolegments.

Hi Michael.
It is not a easy project so to give it free to a forum.
In RS forum Morgan gave the schematic of PDK but nobody made it to work, so how they can make my project to work because it is very difficult????
I gave a general plan of it and some photos from inside so the members who interesting to work on it.
Forums are for ideas exchange not for suppling schematics.

Regards

[Morgan]

Sorry Geo

But who are you to tell us that this is not an easy project so to give it free to the forum?
Do you think we are stupids that we can think about how to solve "not easy projects" or you are so smart person that no one can go to your level in electronics?
Let me tell you someting, may be you have got success with pd like Morgan with pdk, but no one can disparage our knolegments in electronics unless is limited or advance.
If we (the forum members) are capable to build a metal detector with success and also implement to it some goods mods to allow a better machine, i think we understand electronics. Remeber long range detector are easier projects than a good metal detector like Delta Pulse for example. But Delta Pulse today has improved thanks to member support each other. So when you said that this is not an easy project so to give it free, i desagree cause the project indeed is an easy project, but to tune it correctly is the problem, so if you don´t contribute with full schematics i don´t understand why you are here or you are waiting for some inocent person that can help you secretely and after that you will continue to show members that you finally solve the problem for nuts and that now you have a 100% working pdk?
No my friend this is no the correct way to join a forum for mebers that have a compromise to help each other.
And if you want to know if i m upset with all this smoke curtains that for long time you and Morgan spread here, yes i m.

Sorry to other members, but i just realise this circus must be stopped.
Regards
Nelson

«««««Sorry to other members, but i just realise this circus must be stopped.
Regards
Nelson»»»»»»


You ,and other members that share the same opinion,can talk with forum administration and ERASE me , go ahead.
this is wath i said,the rebellion starts...

[Geo]

Very strange things....
There are persons who put here photos from outside of their machines for promotion and they are the Good members!!!!, and there are other members as me or Morgan or...who show photos from inside the machines and they are the bad members. Why???? because they don't give the schematic of their lrl.
Really very funny.
Dear Nelson etc... we keep this forum with these photos and with the little electronics that we know. You, what are you doing for the forum???, what you gave to it??? please remember me!!

[nelson]

Morgan

Is sad to get discusion to this level, but recognize that if you and Geo had posted real information, nothing of this will happend. I think a few members agree with my opinions and may be other don´t, and i respect each opinions.
I never said that you and geo must leave the forum, i m just saying that all members are welcome to share information and not to keep has a secret project and if is secret, just go and open your own web site and get on buissnes.
I have no personal fight with you and Geo, i m just tired of no sence information to allow development of PD, PDK or LRL. Cooperation and sharing of all members is very important to develop a good detector.
If i sound to you like a har man, just try to get into my shoes and may be you will understand me.

Regards

Nelson

«««««Sorry to other members, but i just realise this circus must be stopped.
Regards
Nelson»»»»»»


You ,and other members that share the same opinion,can talk with forum administration and ERASE me , go ahead.
this is wath i said,the rebellion starts...

[nelson]

Geo
Is hard to do real things with wrong information and smoke curtains, specially if we are hamateurs on MD, but i also know that each man here have their own skills to support a project, so don´t ask for contributions from me because i know that i m not very skilled on desing a pdk or pd, but i also know i can contribute to do good field test and also work hard on antennas design and construction. But if there is no real sharing of circuit, it will be almost imposible for me to study one or more steps about this devices development. What i mean is that if you for example develop a long range detector and then share full schematic, this project can be a much more powerfull machine with members cooperation.
In my case i don´t want to make money selling this devices, but yes i want to find a few treasures in my country and thats it.
I also know that my comments to you and Morgan is like a close door in my nose, but i have nothing to lose if i m telling the thru.

Regards

Nelson

Very strange things....
There are persons who put here photos from outside of their machines for promotion and they are the Good members!!!!, and there are other members as me or Morgan or...who show photos from inside the machines and they are the bad members. Why???? because they don't give the schematic of their lrl.
Really very funny.
Dear Nelson etc... we keep this forum with these photos and with the little electronics that we know. You, what are you doing for the forum???, what you gave to it??? please remember me!!

[Geo]

Geo

I also know that my comments to you and Morgan is like a close door in my nose, but i have nothing to lose if i m telling the thru.

Regards

Nelson

Nelson, what you say is not the true but what you believe.
I gave more info here but "nobody" took them seriously. When i went to Portugal to meet Morgan i had with me a PD, i tried it and worked. I told here that it was only the passive receiver (pcb5) with a tone generator (a lot of schematics here by Esteban) and a very simple oscillator. Also i gave photos from inside the box so everyone had the ability to see how all was connected together, but nobody tried it. Why????, maybe wanted full schematics....
Now i did the same but more simple...., only two photos, little comments and nothing else and you write so many things!!!!!.
Really i don't understand and i Stop here. No reason for debates without results.

Regards

[nelson]

Ok Geo.
No problem, i will not lose my time trying to explain things to earless people. But i know a few members know that i m right and remember we are not real GURUS.
NO MORE COMMETS UNLESS I GET ANOTHER SMOKE CURTAIN, so go ahead with your projects.
Have a nice day
Nelson

Nelson, what you say is not the true but what you believe.
I gave more info here but "nobody" took them seriously. When i went to Portugal to meet Morgan i had with me a PD, i tried it and worked. I told here that it was only the passive receiver (pcb5) with a tone generator (a lot of schematics here by Esteban) and a very simple oscillator. Also i gave photos from inside the box so everyone had the ability to see how all was connected together, but nobody tried it. Why????, maybe wanted full schematics....
Now i did the same but more simple...., only two photos, little comments and nothing else and you write so many things!!!!!.
Really i don't understand and i Stop here. No reason for debates without results.

Regards

[Morgan]

Morgan

Is sad to get discusion to this level, but recognize that if you and Geo had posted real information, nothing of this will happend. I think a few members agree with my opinions and may be other don´t, and i respect each opinions.
I never said that you and geo must leave the forum, i m just saying that all members are welcome to share information and not to keep has a secret project and if is secret, just go and open your own web site and get on buissnes.
I have no personal fight with you and Geo, i m just tired of no sence information to allow development of PD, PDK or LRL. Cooperation and sharing of all members is very important to develop a good detector.
If i sound to you like a har man, just try to get into my shoes and may be you will understand me.

Regards

Nelson

Hello

I realy get good LRL information from forum members like Esteban,Geo and many others,but about a real working Long Range Locator device i get only smoke curtin too,however i spent two years playing with the PDK by Geo and Esteban,i made many tests,chang components,even try more than 20 diferent coils,toroids,ferrites,until the PDK start to locate some little size buried targets. It was a lot of work from my side,and if i want to share the information later its my problem,actualy i´m not interested to give here the modifications,you can call me egoist or pirate,i keep my position to not share more than the PDK-1 project,and my electronics knowledge is very limited,i thing if you spend a few months analizing and modificate your PDK-1,sure you will UPGRADE the circuit and by your umble soul share with the members here,they will thank you for that.
I dont have a real business with PDK-2, from the more than 30 people asking me the LRL i select 10 of them,and actualy give up to build more PDK´s TH´s...
I dont believe that any person here is so crazy to give golden information to others,it take me two years to UPGRADE the circuit to a reasonable level ,the PDK´s that i sold even is not enough money to cover the time i lose with the project.
Nelson,i dont believe if you in my position will share with others what you discover...

Regards

[Geo]

Morgan, look frontward.
I believe that after little time the members will understand.
I wanted to post here a commercial LRL (this time not Mineoro) but who likes a schematic from a bad reverse engineer????
Maybe i will post only the details that some friends gave to me!!!!
Maybe i will need your help


Regards

[WM6]

I wanted to post here a commercial LRL (this time not Mineoro) but who likes a schematic from a bad reverse engineer????

Well, well, Geo, please do not exaggerate. You are very good reverse engineer and good constructor engineer too.

Your reverse schematics are always welcome.