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  • #46
    .....Nelson,i dont believe if you in my position will share with others what you discover...


    If i get success, you will see i will, because the next step will be to improve the detector in cooperation with all good forum members that are waiting the same has me (full schematics)
    This is the same way i like to work on geotech1.com

    Regards

    Nelson

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    • #47
      Special thanks

      Big Thanks of Masters Morgan , Geo and Esteban , we learned very lore from them in this forum with real or half schematics and information, but they never give its secret science, because this is correct for they.

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      • #48
        ¿..? ¿..? ¿...?.... No comments

        Originally posted by humhum View Post
        Big Thanks of Masters Morgan , Geo and Esteban , we learned very lore from them in this forum with real or half schematics and information, but they never give its secret science, because this is correct for they.

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        • #49
          hello,
          is anybody there who is also using zahori ,mini zahori at his field searches or tests.
          two year ago , I pin pointed a place with zahori almost from 30 m , it was really giving direction.
          last week I tried zahori again , even tried at edge of noise , I could not pinpoint same place.
          does zahori need a working vlf station or something else like PDK?
          waiting comments ,
          maybe you all need a question to loosen this debate. no need for argues...
          sometime all of us can became selfish but in genaral aspect .
          hope you are all fine.
          regards
          Okantex

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          • #50
            Originally posted by okantex View Post
            hello,
            is anybody there who is also using zahori ,mini zahori at his field searches or tests.
            two year ago , I pin pointed a place with zahori almost from 30 m , it was really giving direction.
            last week I tried zahori again , even tried at edge of noise , I could not pinpoint same place.
            does zahori need a working vlf station or something else like PDK?
            waiting comments ,
            maybe you all need a question to loosen this debate. no need for argues...
            sometime all of us can became selfish but in genaral aspect .
            hope you are all fine.
            regards
            Okantex
            yes,maybe it needs one VHF station to boost the detection.
            All LRL´s,PDK,PD,MINEORO,DCH85, they work better if VHF waves are present.
            Why this happens ??? good question...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by okantex View Post
              hello,
              is anybody there who is also using zahori ,mini zahori at his field searches or tests.
              two year ago , I pin pointed a place with zahori almost from 30 m , it was really giving direction.
              last week I tried zahori again , even tried at edge of noise , I could not pinpoint same place.
              does zahori need a working vlf station or something else like PDK?
              waiting comments ,
              maybe you all need a question to loosen this debate. no need for argues...
              sometime all of us can became selfish but in genaral aspect .
              hope you are all fine.
              regards
              Okantex
              Hi Okantex , I am sure that Zahori not need VLF station ,because Zahori works with ..., (VLF station need only of Receiver with Coil) , you need wait summers days when Ions is heavy for it.

              Regads.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by humhum View Post
                Hi Okantex , I am sure that Zahori not need VLF station ,because Zahori works with ..., (VLF station need only of Receiver with Coil) , you need wait summers days when Ions is heavy for it.

                Regads.
                Hi Humhum,
                This is the same as I read when I read the zahori thread http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=11674
                Most people who build the zahori say it does not find treasure.
                Esteban says it will find treasure, but I read others who say it will find treasure only if the secret antenna modification is made.

                If somebody makes a modification to use the secret antenna for the zahori, then maybe it will need VHF station.
                But the zahori that is shown by Esteban is simply a charge detector which detects electric charge at the antenna.

                Best wishes,
                J_P

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by okantex View Post

                  two year ago , I pin pointed a place with zahori almost from 30 m , it was really giving direction.
                  last week I tried zahori again , even tried at edge of noise , I could not pinpoint same place.
                  does zahori need a working vlf station or something else like PDK?
                  waiting comments ,
                  Using very strong VLF station you can bust Zahori detection in vicinity. Strong VLF antennas field generate large amounts of ions (in the same manner as well known house ion generators) and Zahori is ion detector only.

                  Unfortunately those by VLF antenna generated ions has nothing to do with possible noble metals ions in soil. So, there is no way to improve Zahori functionality using VLF stations.

                  Your 30m phenomenon of Zahori detecting is easy to explain with weather conditions and air streams. As example: in dry hot weather there are a lot of ions in air, at the same time there are every more or less sensible air flow carrying those ions around.

                  If your target was in counter direction of those air stream, you will sense intensified signal from your ion detector (Zahori) in those direction.

                  When airflow change his direction, "detecting phenomenon" is gone. Your phenomenon was pure natural coincidence. Nothing as real detection of buried target.
                  Global capital is ruining your life?
                  You have right to self-defence!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                    Using very strong VLF station you can bust Zahori detection in vicinity. Strong VLF antennas field generate large amounts of ions (in the same manner as well known house ion generators) and Zahori is ion detector only.

                    Unfortunately those by VLF antenna generated ions has nothing to do with possible noble metals ions in soil. So, there is no way to improve Zahori functionality using VLF stations.

                    Your 30m phenomenon of Zahori detecting is easy to explain with weather conditions and air streams. As example: in dry hot weather there are a lot of ions in air, at the same time there are every more or less sensible air flow carrying those ions around.

                    If your target was in counter direction of those air stream, you will sense intensified signal from your ion detector (Zahori) in those direction.

                    When airflow change his direction, "detecting phenomenon" is gone. Your phenomenon was pure natural coincidence. Nothing as real detection of buried target.
                    Hi WM6,
                    Also, remember Ivconic says he can detect 50 Hz broadcast from power wires in walls, and from distant power wires above the ground.
                    And he detects charge from CRT screen at long range.
                    Very mysterious.


                    Best wishes,
                    J_P

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                      Hi WM6,
                      Also, remember Ivconic says he can detect 50 Hz broadcast from power wires in walls, and from distant power wires above the ground.
                      And he detects charge from CRT screen at long range.
                      Very mysterious.
                      Best wishes,
                      J_P
                      Why mysterious J_P?

                      All electric fields generate ions in surrounding air.

                      Changing (alternating) electric fields can push and pull ions to ion detector (Zahori) sensor. So you can sense 50Hz broadcast in vicinity of mains installations.

                      CRTs has high voltage of several thousands Volts and huge electric field around CRT (existing even hours after CRT was OFF) which produce a big amount of ions easy detectable meters away.

                      I think all so called "Zahori phenomenon" are easy explainable.
                      Global capital is ruining your life?
                      You have right to self-defence!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                        Why mysterious J_P?

                        All electric fields generate ions in surrounding air.

                        Changing (alternating) electric fields can push and pull ions to ion detector (Zahori) sensor. So you can sense 50Hz broadcast in vicinity of mains installations.

                        CRTs has high voltage of several thousands Volts and huge electric field around CRT (existing even hours after CRT was OFF) which produce a big amount of ions easy detectable meters away.

                        I think all so called "Zahori phenomenon" are easy explainable.
                        Hi WM6,
                        Maybe the mystery is solved.
                        Maybe Zahori also detects a change in electric field as well as ions.
                        I think if we put the zahori into a vacuum where there is no gas to make ions, then still it will detect an electric field which changes in the vacuum space.
                        As an example, if we have 50 hz power cable on a satellite in space vacuum, then I think Zahori can detect the 50 Hz from a distance, even when there is not any ions in the vacuum near the Zahori.
                        Or, if we make a static electric field in space vacuum by charging a sphere, we should be able to detect this charge using motion detection, even when there are no ions in the space vacuum.

                        But it is not necessary to send the Zahori to space to make tests.
                        We can put the zahori in a glass vacuum chamber, then test to see if it detects charged things from the vacuum where there are no ions to contact the zahori antenna.


                        Best Wishes,
                        J_P

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                        • #57
                          [QUOTE=WM6;144085]

                          Example: in dry hot weather there are a lot of ions in air, at the same time there are every more or less sensible air flow carrying those ions around.

                          This is real.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                            Hi Humhum,
                            This is the same as I read when I read the zahori thread http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=11674
                            Most people who build the zahori say it does not find treasure.
                            Esteban says it will find treasure, but I read others who say it will find treasure only if the secret antenna modification is made.

                            If somebody makes a modification to use the secret antenna for the zahori, then maybe it will need VHF station.
                            But the zahori that is shown by Esteban is simply a charge detector which detects electric charge at the antenna.
                            Best wishes,
                            J_P
                            Dear J_Player, With Telescopic Antenna maybe need of VLF waves(if adjust of ...) , but with my modification not need VHF waves.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by J_Player View Post

                              As an example, if we have 50 hz power cable on a satellite in space vacuum, then I think Zahori can detect the 50 Hz from a distance, even when there is not any ions in the vacuum near the Zahori.
                              Agree, apart from (static or dynamic) electric fields, power line works at the same time as power ULF antenna too, which transmit/broadcast at 50Hz and at many of its harmonics too.

                              If static charge detector work at the same time as some sort of EM wave receiver (and we can agree that it essential works in such manner too) then this is second way to receive 50Hz broadcast.
                              Global capital is ruining your life?
                              You have right to self-defence!

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                              • #60
                                please

                                Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                                Thats correct,I GAVE THEM THE PDK SCHEMATIC !!! but nobody believe that is a working LRL schematic...

                                Thanks Geo
                                Hi morgan
                                can you point me where find THE PDK SCHEMATIC please

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