Inside Mineoro210-part1

[Max]

Hi Sisco,

What Geo is saying is that AlixMex has been paid money to never show the schematic for Mineoro. He says you will not find a schematic to build this locator.

If you are looking to build a metal detector to find hidden treasure, you can find excellent instructions to build your own detector in the Technology forum for Golden Sabre and the Delta Pulse. Look here: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ad.php?t=12692
And look here: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ead.php?t=8003

Also look here for the hammerhead PI detector design: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/f...splay.php?f=16
You can buy circuit boards already done for the hammerhead PI.

It is a good idea to ask experts like Geo and Ivconic which is the best detector to build to find deep treasure. For large treasure buried deep, maybe 2-box is better.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi JP,
he's doing MiniPuls PI... he's true skilled person I think, but maybe don't understand well english, so misunderstud Geo's words.

Best regards,
Max

[Max]

FOR SISCO

Hi,
FOR SISCO: of course I understand it's not play for you, but read carefully posts before posting. Geo have no responsibilities that you haven't the mineoro schematic ready in your hands !

Read my post and all the others and you'll get the big picture: it's difficault that we'll see here other mineoro parts/schematics.

Then have to say another thing: your PIs seem good detectors and mods. but as I understand you need disc ? Don't you ?

You can't use two-boxes, have no money to buy e.g. OKM or GPR, so you focalize on homemade PIs: good. But they haven't disc !

I think that e.g. a PulseStarII or Lorentz could be good for you, why don't you search e.g. on ebay for PSII ? You could find used at 700-800eur.
Or try to obtain schematic of it and clone ?
They have some disc ability and find stuff at meters underground. Good devices.

Best regards,
Max

[sisco]

Hi Max , this is true , my english is very bad and for understand many of your

word must use dictionary and maybe can't understand what you say true

or can't tell my purpose so use photo in my post.

thank.

[Nihil Roma Maius]

He says you will not find a schematic to build this locator.

... has is to bribe people

Please, show me a Lorentz schematic here or somebody has in his bank data?

So, if you can't find a X schematic, the manufacturer bribe the people. Bravo! I have severals, but I cannot betray the confidence.

Read my post and all the others and you'll get the big picture: it's difficault that we'll see here other mineoro parts/schematics.

Is difficult to get Lorentz schematics, for example, too. I have 1,000 or more of all epochs, publications, officials, copies, magazines, books, handrawings, annotations, bla, bla, but no Lorentz.

I think that someone, outside mineoro people or supporters, have already all the schematics here but just wouldn't post for the reasons of above.

Eh??? reasons of above??? REASONS!!!

Just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.

Kind regards,
Max

Good! First step to knowledge!

Please, I'll no post it.

[Geo]

Hi Nihil.
Can you send me the schematic of the pointronic 98 because the schematic that you posted here is not clear .
Thanks

[Max]

He says you will not find a schematic to build this locator.

... has is to bribe people

Please, show me a Lorentz schematic here or somebody has in his bank data?

So, if you can't find a X schematic, the manufacturer bribe the people. Bravo! I have severals, but I cannot betray the confidence.

Read my post and all the others and you'll get the big picture: it's difficault that we'll see here other mineoro parts/schematics.

Is difficult to get Lorentz schematics, for example, too. I have 1,000 or more of all epochs, publications, officials, copies, magazines, books, handrawings, annotations, bla, bla, but no Lorentz.

I think that someone, outside mineoro people or supporters, have already all the schematics here but just wouldn't post for the reasons of above.

Eh??? reasons of above??? REASONS!!!

Just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.

Kind regards,
Max

Good! First step to knowledge!

Please, I'll no post it.

Hi Nihil,

"
I think that someone, outside mineoro people or supporters, have already all the schematics here but just wouldn't post for the reasons of above.

Eh??? reasons of above??? REASONS!!!
"

I just think that someone gain schematic from successful reverse engineering, not that someone inside mineoro or mineoro supporters gave any information about devices schematic/sensor etc.

Think that people around mineoro trust each other and don't want any real information about schematic or whatever goes outside and become public domain: this would ruin the business.

Also reverse eng. of processor code can be obtained with some more work, even if I think few people here know how do it, but it's possible.

All that doesn't mean mineoro's really work.

REASONS: possible reasons are explained in above posts by me and JP.

Just my opinion.

Best regards,
Max

PS: about Lorentz, yes similar conditions, no full schematic, no uP code etc
but difference is Lorentz are working machines and really good manifactured.

[Geo]

He says you will not find a schematic to build this locator.

... has is to bribe people

Please, show me a Lorentz schematic here or somebody has in his bank data?

So, if you can't find a X schematic, the manufacturer bribe the people. Bravo! I have severals, but I cannot betray the confidence.

Read my post and all the others and you'll get the big picture: it's difficault that we'll see here other mineoro parts/schematics.

Is difficult to get Lorentz schematics, for example, too. I have 1,000 or more of all epochs, publications, officials, copies, magazines, books, handrawings, annotations, bla, bla, but no Lorentz.

I think that someone, outside mineoro people or supporters, have already all the schematics here but just wouldn't post for the reasons of above.

Eh??? reasons of above??? REASONS!!!

Just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.

Kind regards,
Max

Good! First step to knowledge!

Please, I'll no post it.

You have right But.... but.... but..
If a guy will open a detector and reverse the schematic (no problem) and he write here that "wait for the schematic"...... and all of us we waiting for it , but never we see it then there is problem . As i wrote before it is more honest to us to say that he does not want to presents it to us (and there is not problem). But my friend i think that you understand what i want to say and where it is the problem
Best Regards

[Earthworm Jim]

Money,money!

No pain - no gain !

To discover the truth, some people need to waste big money!
This Mineoro thing is bogus!

[Max]

Hi Nihil.
Can you send me the schematic of the pointronic 98 because the schematic that you posted here is not clear .
Thanks

Hi Geo,
my friend, these people never will give you any complete schematic of whatever branded LRL... but maybe just of some older metal detector... to make you trust them on other things... but not cause there is some real "good" secret or cause LRL devices really work...

Just cause if they give you an LRL schematic, you build that stuff then discover that you can't find anything with that they'll lose a "potential customer" ,
and gain some "positive advertise"

It's a stupid poker play and they are just making BLUFFs here.

Only real "secret" is that these things don't work.

Best regards,
Max

[Max]

Seems an old telegraph

Hi all,
I'm still more puzzled looking at these pictures of Mineoro inside...

Seems a waste of batteries , OR NOT ?

Even a monkey could design a power supply that avoid that waste of batteries...
Mineoro's are environment dangers! That's what I say.

Never seen any radio or whatever that need such a kind of battery store!

Nor the 1st Armstrong's radio !

Who design this stuff ? EH ? A MAD ?

Brilliant ! Smart ! Bright ! But mostly COMIC.

Who is your designer ? EH ? Mickey Mouse ?

Oh sorry, there are lot of battery store there in Brazil that gives you batteries for free... they lauch the batteries on your heads I think!

Oh yeah, you needed 27V and don't know that exist modern electronics !
Just 100 years old books... ! Ridiculos.

So after spent thousands dollars for the "device" user ran out of money due to batteries ! Total ruin these mineoro's !

Kind regards,
and hope you mineoro-guys will study electronics next time before made such another crap,
Max

(ps: "crap" meaning "nonsense" not... )

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Nihil.
Can you send me the schematic of the pointronic 98 because the schematic that you posted here is not clear .
Thanks

Maybe you should ask Esteban. According to a previous post he has this schematic:

Also have schematics of Mineoro (number 493 of my list):

493. Various Mineoro schematics, two boxes, etc.:
- 08 MI - Two boxes
- 89 MC - Two boxes
- BL 692 - Two boxes
- 8 VLl - MD
- 8 VLU - MD
- Modifications in Mineoro’s 8VLU
- CM 80
- D1 and D2 - BFO
- MP 10 - Two boxes
- DC 2006 - Pistol long range
- Pointronic 98 - Pistol long range
- DCH 85 - Pistol long range

[Qiaozhi]

And here's how you change those pesky batteries -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mTieF9gPfU

[Earthworm Jim]

Want hex?

Am i allowed to post HEX file for Alexismex's pdc here?
Since he already done good job by disecting device, i can complete this with hex. Dont ask me how i got it! Just to let you know; it is not possible to reread once programmed and protected ..2051. So i got it from other source. Anyone want it?
I can post it if administrator allows me....

[Carl-NC]

But it's even more simple:

this stuff is patented , right ?

Any attempt to reverse engineer and obtain real schematics of that thing, for the scope of making it available to the public, could expose the author to legal actions and million dollars request of compensation in trial.
Also the forum could be exposed for responsibilities related to intellectual property infringements.

Patents don't protect against reverse engineering, or revealing details of the design. All that is perfectly legal.

- Carl

[Earthworm Jim]

I agree...