Mineoro210-part2-sensor

[Rudy]

Randy, I suspect the Ca dealer has learned that Mineoro, works only during suitable magnetic conditions and does not work when the necessary operating conditions for the Mineoro, or any LRL are not present.

Suitable operating conditions are not predictable in advance and can sometimes fluxuate in and out as quickly as 2-3 second intervals. This makes the ability to demonstrate the product at any specific time, random chance at best. The same applies operating in the field. You never know in advance whether there will be reception, or not.

Unless you can spend several days with the dealer, or fortunate to test at a time of good reception in that area, it will be easy to conclude that the product never works.

In my opinion, this problem is solveable, but in 20 years I have not seen any manufacturer with the funds, that has recognized the problem, or has attempted to address it.

When the missing componnent is added, Remote Sensing Discrimination products will operate with consistency. Dell

To paraphrase:

There are too many environmental variables making it impossible to expect consistent working results (geomagnetic conditions, humidity,...).

The probability that the LRL works during any reasonable time window is purely a random chance.

The only way to prove that it actually works is to continue to try it until, given the same laws of probability and random chance, you actually dig something of value. In the meantime, the lack of success is attributed to less than optimal enviromental conditions.

A million monkeys sitting at a million typewriters and given enough time, one of them will eventually type a Mineoro operating manual.

[Seden]

Ion theory a ruse!

Rudy,

I guess I should of been more specific. What I was trying to say is the explanation given by Mineoro is pure B.S. and again your point is well taken regarding ions. Heck, for that matter it's easy to blow air on a stream high voltage/low current stream of ions and move them.

Would be nice to read out the code in the uP to see just what it is doing. I cannot pass judgement on this unit until I have one in hand in the field and run it though a battery of tests out in the desert away from all the interference locally (RFI,EMI).

Until then I will keep an open mind as if for no other reason I respect Esteban's technical ability from our emailing back and forth sharing information.

Randy

[Carl-NC]

I tried to meet with the US Distributor who lives in my neck of the woods but so far it hasn't happened. When he first got his Dist.,I told him to go to the various Gold Prospector club outings and demonstrate the units. People would find a way to get the cash if it could be shown them right then and there how easily you could locate gold in the field.

Randy,

I hope you will continue to try to meet up with Kurt. He and I exchange a slew of emails way back, when he was wondering whether Mineoro pulled a fast one on him at the demo they gave. I suggested several things he could try, to conclusively prove whether their devices work. I guess he didn't follow through.

- Carl

[sisco]

HI

can help me ?

[Alexismex]

Hello sisco, it is bronze and the small disc is gold 24 OK
Saludos for all the forum,
Alexis.
too much work to trace 210 now, hope soon have more time.

[sisco]

HI ALEXISMEX

excuse me for my bad english

i draw this pcb from bottom layer of black part by your picture.

can take a good picture from top layer and write resistor and capacitor value

and transistor noumber .

i am wait

THANK.

[Sean_Goddard]

Rudy, a million monkeys?? That FEW!!

More likely (changing topic a BIT) they could code up a decent operating system which would rival Windoze Vista (or should that be ASTALAVISTA as you would say to your files given the recent exploits uncovered) .

[Rudy]

[QUOTE=Sean_Goddard;50700]Rudy, a million monkeys?? That FEW!!
QUOTE]

Ok, I was hedging my bet.

[Max]

HI ALEXISMEX

excuse me for my bad english

i draw this pcb from bottom layer of black part by your picture.

can take a good picture from top layer and write resistor and capacitor value

and transistor noumber .

i am wait

THANK.

Hi sisco,
let us know if you'll find something...mean everything you find when finished...including everything and also...please send photos!
I'm courios too...

Best regards,
Max

[strujas]

Aleximex hurry with your post's,,,

[Clondike Clad]

SENSOR

if the FG80 sensor is like this unit ,,,,,,it is a scam
NOW WE NEED TO LEARN MORE ON THE fg80,
Carl will let us know about the FG80 only time will tell.

[Clondike Clad]

THANKS FOR SHOWING US THIS.

Someone is telling us that this thing works
DID YOU GET THIS THING TO WORK.

[Alexismex]

Hello Forum , have no much time in this moment to check the board but i see big desire for this big foolish board i will take time this weekend to "screen the board and components and next Cisco will make the schematic ,OK partner will make it.
Today I have a phone from a friend in Mexico , this friend return a mineoro to MR Damasio (don't know the model ...but not to old...) with some angry (he has travelling two time to Brazil, with two different Mineoro ) ,and today he just received via DHL the ULTIMUM Model of mineoro ,with target sample etc...etc... he tell me in this month, he will make some test in situ ,,,,???I do not say nothing to respect his positive thinking !!!!but i will inform you the result with number of the model etc...
To Monday with all datas board
salut a tous
Alexis

[Alexismex]

Some photos

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