I now own a Mineoro FG80

[Carl-NC]

You might want to consult the nice gentleman that did an extensive job tearing one apart. I would assume that he did much better testing than you are doing ?

He did an excellent dissection, which has been recognized by me and others. But his analysis is incomplete, and I hope to add to his effort.

I have put information and our findings for you to view and you have nothing to say.

Sorry, didn't see where you posted any information or findings, other than to say "it don't work." Anybody can say that, with nothing at all to back it up.

PS- So you are saying the MINEORO is beeping over gold
EVERYWHERE ?

I'm saying the Mineoro is beeping, and there must be a reason that it is beeping. It is very simple to say that it is not responding to gold, but a far more complete answer is to show exactly what it is responding to. When you do that, then you have proof it does not locate gold, and you possibly have proof of fraud.

Ferinstance, I can just say that the piece-o-crap PPL does not detect gold. But I can also buy one, open it up, and show that the contents consists of sand, sulfur, table salt, magnets, and a gold sample which, from the perspective of RealPhysics, is just plain stupid. And I can also show, through the use of randomized blind testing, that the so-called dowsing response is nothing but a mind trick. So I have shown the reason the PPL can give a response, which has nothing at all to do with locating gold. And I have shown that it was designed by an idiot who knows nothing about physics.

- Carl

[Seden]

A question for VCRB

VCRB,

You say that you have tried alot of the LRL's and found none to work and are now following another path. What is that path? I don't have the time to go thru every thread of all the forums so I'm asking you to do me a favor and in turn save me the grief you went thru. Me personally, I've been consistant in posting interest in Induced Polarization and have moved on to Spectral Induced Polarization and even using Natural Fields for same which that cute Scientist Dr. Erika Gasperikova and Dr. Morrison I believe have a paper on. Now using the earth's natural fields you COULD possibly make an LRL of sorts. What Spectral Induced Polarization does is observe the phase change over frequency at very low frequencies to determine the mineral there looking at. At sub hz you can more easily detect the grain size if I understand this correctly (Carl feel free to jump in to add you knowledge).

So VCRB, I've shared my direction-how about you?

Randy

[Dell Winders]

What's the difference between Physics, and real Physics????

A test that detects "Mind Tricks" ?????

"it don't work." Anybody can say that, with nothing at all to back it up.

Carl, you have already proved that with some of your reports. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

What's the difference between Physics, and real Physics????

The same as the difference between Pseudoscience and Science. I suppose strictly speaking, Carl should have written Pseudophysics instead of just Physics.

[robert]

Bad joke!


Esteban: "...blah,blah... Ergo, we are the f..."
It looks like "fools" to me! I hope you are not a big ones!?lol
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VCRB, it looks like you already know all the answers!? Isnt that so?
Also looks like you have something "unsolved" with Carl from the past?
Why buging here? To much empty txt ... for nothing. Can u use Carl's email
and argue with him in private???
Nobody interested in your anger (off subject) here!
"...I will stand back and let him finish his report...."
Even oposite...what can u do otherwise? Nothing!
"...Nobody seems to believe anything anyway...."
WRONG!

"...I think each individual needs to make their own decision...."
VERY CORRECT!
"....I certainly don't agree with all manufactures of ANYTHING, but on the other hand
I don't agree with Carl and others either. You need to pay your dues boys.
VCRB
PS- Everybody is going to cry foul no matter what happens. Either way as none these
opinions are going to sway a person one way or another..."
Very WRONG! Bad attitude! This forum is THE PLACE for man to learn new things, get some
very usefull informations,save some money....only have to read all the threads and
understand the points....
From the very begining i understood this place as "oasis" for us - prospectors,md "lovers",
as place where we can exchange informations,ideas,technicals...etc.etc..
I learned much here...i am very gratefull to Carl for starting this forum,also i am
gratefull to all members here (even Hung,Michael and Esteban) for being here and posting
their posts...even if i do not beleive in some posts,even if i argued with some of those.
Even if "calling names" occurs from time to time...No big harm done - comparing to benefits
from this place...

So VCRB,you can not come here and claim that "...Nobody seems to believe anything anyway..",
because it is not TRUE!
You can only stand and claim simillar in your name...as your own attitude...
regards VCRB
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Dell, again you showed your great "vocal&rethorical" capabillities....but empty...
Blah,blah.....inflate text..(estebans words)...
Benefit from your previous posts - zero ! Backuped with ZERO facts!
Empty like my pockets!
regards Dell
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Carl do not waste your time on "posting&arguing" with people here...for now.
Try to focus on experimenting with device as you intended from the start.Later you post
your observations here so we can talk than about it...Otherwise,it will take months for
us to see your experiences.....huh!
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"...I have experience as constructor, no only as user. If I persist in this possibility,
is because I know no only a way, I know several. About this theme you don't will find
literature, schematics, etc., and obviously proponents..."
Esteban, this "theme" youve being talking about is ALL BOGUS! You are not awared of what
you sentenced here, in the very same line;
"Theme" without literature,schematic,etc is...as you claimed....NOT BACKUPED with facts,
which means - BOGUS !!! SF ! Than,how man can trust you,your claims,your observations...???
If I can not test,calculate...do a double blind test, check in science.....Than how can i
see if you are right or not???!? How can you prove your claims? With empty words???
"...I know no only a way, I know several...."
Sorry,but it seems that you do not know EVEN ONE proper way!?! By missunderstanding a whole
matter so far, it seems that you "filled" your head with a lot of prejudices and now you
are so deeply confused in all the things...nobody can "bring" you back!
You are wandering deeply and deeply in the fog.....lost!
Anyway, i can agree that you are good will man and already contibuted here a lot....Bless you!
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So far as i am concerned, mineoro devices (all of those) are sensitive and responding ONLY
ON SOME ELECTROSTATIC DISCHARGE...same as ZAHORI...nothing else!
Why?How? Simply, its untuned,wideband receiver is not capable of filtering and receiving any
clean signal but whole spectrum of noises,hums and interferences!?
Even oposite, gold does not produce any kind of signal,ions or any other "products"..period!
Except that funny,"poor" receiver, the rest of "electronic" inside those devices are totally
nonsenced wired up, and have role just to fill up big box - nothing else! Period!
As already proven EE, with 25 years working as professional on RF "fields", i have been seen
a lot,tested a lot and i have "courage" to come here and claim "the claims"....
MAN CAN NOT DETECT ANY KIND OF GOLD EVER, WITH THOSE! P E R I O D !!!!!!!

It will take a while...and Carl will post simillar claims here! Ha,ha,ha!!!
regards

[Fred]

If its all "nonsense wired", it will be very interesing to see the schematic.This will be a proof.But i have never seen such a schematic here.
I would like to know for what purpose mineoro gives a gold plated (copper)plate, if the detector can only detect old buried gold?
Fred

[vcrb]

He did an excellent dissection, which has been recognized by me and others. But his analysis is incomplete, and I hope to add to his effort.

Sorry, didn't see where you posted any information or findings, other than to say "it don't work." Anybody can say that, with nothing at all to back it up.

I'm saying the Mineoro is beeping, and there must be a reason that it is beeping. It is very simple to say that it is not responding to gold, but a far more complete answer is to show exactly what it is responding to. When you do that, then you have proof it does not locate gold, and you possibly have proof of fraud.

Ferinstance, I can just say that the piece-o-crap PPL does not detect gold. But I can also buy one, open it up, and show that the contents consists of sand, sulfur, table salt, magnets, and a gold sample which, from the perspective of RealPhysics, is just plain stupid. And I can also show, through the use of randomized blind testing, that the so-called dowsing response is nothing but a mind trick. So I have shown the reason the PPL can give a response, which has nothing at all to do with locating gold. And I have shown that it was designed by an idiot who knows nothing about physics.

- Carl

Since you did all this extensive testing on all these other devices, now you can complete your testing the same on the MINEORO. Just go out on your testing patch and do the same. This is not as difficult as you are making it look. Unless, your testing is flawed or you have another agenda. I am detecting hostility in your posts and must say it is not becoming at all. Perhaps I will take this discussion to another more friendly board where the moderator is not so rude. I am sure there are other forums out there.
You must remember that our observations were mostly from testing in controlled field conditions. We matched manufacture claims and went from that standpoint. I will leave you in peace to complete your report.
VCRB
PS- My horn in my auto beeps at random once and awhile also. Maybe it has detected gold also !

[Qiaozhi]

PS- My horn in my auto beeps at random once and awhile also. Maybe it has detected gold also !

It will be at least as good at detecting gold as a Mineoro, probably better.

[Jim]

Damn them gold-plated horn contacts

[Carl-NC]

PS- My horn in my auto beeps at random once and awhile also. Maybe it has detected gold also !

I recently dissected a "Treasure Scope Raven" LRL, which turned out to have a $7.99 Radio Shack AM radio inside. That was all, an ordinary AM radio.

So perhaps your car's AM radio is wired to your horn, and everytime you drive by a gold deposit it beeps.

- Carl

[Dell Winders]

How much did you pay for the Raven? Dell

[Carl-NC]

How much did you pay for the Raven? Dell

More than the $7.99 it was worth! Seriously, I don't remember.

[Dell Winders]

Like I said, I'll give you $40 for it. I think I can make it work. But probably not as good as mine. Dell

[Alexismex]

some avance

Hello all friends from the forum,
First, I have some avance in the schematic of the Mineoro, it take time because of all the nonsense (loco,loco,loco) of the wiring , like say Robert to full the case of things ....but don't worry one day i upload the diagram...
Second, Last saturday we have a meeting with my friends (at least 12 peoples) we go for research in a Hacienda (very old house 1860) ,it was very exiting to have 3 GPR at the same time one the Ramac X3m from Mala (sweden) ,other the Sir 20 from geophysical (Usa)and the third from Sensor sofware (Canada) and with 250 Mhz antenna in situ all 3 perform verywell .
First place delivered to Ramac for the precise and without having mistake to interpreting the image result...It was incredible to have these priced($$$) machines run in the same place at the same time (i posted laster the photos)....
I say that because ALSO we have together a FG80 and another 210 beast (other version different from i posted in the forum)....and a lot of Ldr ,accurate locator etc....(without comments for the ldr )

For the Mineoro Fg80 we make many test: east west north south , trim the control another and another and another time , waiting for warming electronic...,we have "fresh gold" to test ,from 1 inch to several feet no response , NEVER ONE TIME , sometime when you move the test card you have a beep ...
but shure when you want a beep you must lower towards to the earth, shure you have your beep....
the humidity was 56% with sunshining....
I think with more practice I will have the ABILITY to produce beep in amount directions !!!
it is the second time I make test in two different place with the fg80 the first place the humidity was 45% very low ......without result....
But my friends don't find nothing with mineoro but you can't release from his mind the illusion of find gold with it ....they love the aleatory beeping,the weight of the batteries(16...) and love the beautiful wood case (yes it is, because hand made with tropical wood)
I say that because here,this day you have two technical thinking one the very hight tech with Gpr, minelab, geophysical instruments and another with the mythical and magical path....with lots of gimmick and EVERYBODY are happy to hunt for treasure .....with lot of fun to find old relic (iron!!!,iron!!!iron!!! ).
Carl it is good to continue your research ,it is good to see a forum with a lot of thinking direccion, a lot a creativity ,thank you again for your work and site...have nice findings,
Alexis
Thank you for all the guys who participate

[Jim]

Quack Quack !!

Like I said, I'll give you $40 for it. I think I can make it work. But probably not as good as mine. Dell

LoL…making claims that one piece of C.R.A.P. works better than another. Bold, very bold.

Toot that horn! ROTFLMAO