Knouzm in Brazil

[hung]

Hi Hung and all: simple IR module for receiver remote control of TV can detect this difference of temperature, with adequation of the circuit for this purpose of "heat difference".

Thanks Esteban, but you actually have to 'transport' the circuit to another one, add a microcontroler, laser (in this case class II), etc. The infra red part is just one item.

[Carl-NC]

The DIS-300 is actually a Mastech MS6530. It's highly, highly unlikely that the DIS-300 has any modifications, certainly not with the LCD. It's also impossible that their claims are true... buried gold absolutely cannot be distinguished from anything else based on temperature.

The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that this company sells treasure hunting scams. The fact that they also sell dowsing rod devices pretty much cements that conclusion.

- Carl

[Rudy]

Well, you probably could find a ghost with it. I hear that their presence is betrayed by a sudden temperature drop.

Buried metal will quickly achieve temperature equilibrium with its environment.

Thought experiment.

Let us say for the moment, that there indeed is a bar of gold, buried
under the ground, that happens to have a temperature that is a few degrees higher than its surrounding. Forget how this could happen, let's just assume that it could.

Then, at the interface between the surface of the gold bar and the ground, we would expect that the material in contact with the gold bar will experience a temperature increase and come up to the same temperature as on the gold's surface. In the process of doing that, it pulled some heat out of the gold bar.

The other atoms in the ground close to the interface material, will have their temperature increased as well. Simply because if there is a temperature differential between them, heat energy will be transferred.

This process will continue and keep pulling heat energy out of the gold bar until the temperature of the gold is in equilibrium with the surrounding dirt.

So, after this process has happened you come with your electronic thermometer and what do you see? Nada!

[J_Player]

Treasure thief?

In two opportunities we found scorpions over 2 silver medals (in this case 2 scorpions - the landlord said: "This is the owner of the treasure", ha, ha!!!) and another time a black scorpion over copper plate. Conclussion: animals search for hotest places, in this cases directly over metals of regular size. More common are ants. The both cases I comprobe myself and can conclude 2 facts: 1. metal sites are hotest and 2. good conductive metals emit infrared.

...So did you steal the scorpion's silver medals?

[Geo]

... buried gold absolutely cannot be distinguished from anything else based on temperature.

- Carl

I agree. My very expensive thermocamera isn't able to detect metals in the ground. Only if a big metalic object is in the ground 10..20cm then i can detect it only at the hours of day.

[hung]

buried gold absolutely cannot be distinguished from anything else based on temperature.

This is not true. Gold does produce heat when aimed with specific frequencies of laser lights and it's also used by NASA space suits for its heat reflection properties:

An Efficient Heat Ray Reflector
A fourth characteristic of gold is its ability to reflect heat rays efficiently. This is what makes it so valuable as a heat protector in space suits and vehicles. Thus films of gold so thin that they are translucent are applied to the glass of windows in both hot and cold climates. Under hot conditions, the gold eliminates glare, reflects heat from the sun and thus reduces cooling costs. Conversely, the film reflects back heat radiating from within the buildings and so reduces heating costs. Both ways are important in helping to conserve our precious energy resources.

Another property of gold is that it is an exceedingly good conductor of electricity and heat

Also see this link:

http://www.physorg.com/news63003999.html

Besides it's up to 99% Infrared reflective.
The company states that due to electron structure, gold and other royal metals retain heat longer when buried overnight.
This might or might not be true. I will make tests to corroborate this or not.

The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that this company sells treasure hunting scams. The fact that they also sell dowsing rod devices pretty much cements that conclusion.

You are presenting the same skeptic's logic of 'one size fits all'. No, one size does not fit all. If you think dowsing does not work keep it only as your opinion and not a fact.

Anyway, thanks for the information. Now since you live in US, you or anybody here could try to use the Mastech device and see if the device can be used as Knouzm says. I would try to collect data here from the DIS300.
We could compare results and only this way we would know if the Mastech has been modified or not.

[J_Player]

Mastech device in the US?? Try China

I must congratulate Carl again for his excellent work in finding the exact manufacturer of the knouzm thermometer treasure finder. It's no wonder I couldn't find it because I was looking for the USA manufacturers per the Knouzm web page that says it is made in the USA.

We in the USA cannot easily test the Mastech MS6530 because it is not made or sold in the USA. This thermometer is made in China. The only place it is obtained in the USA is through the Amazon.com seller who imports it from Hong Kong.

Mastech no longer lists the MS6530 in their catalog, as it has been replaced by the newer models. As near as I can tell, the remaining surplus stock of the obsolete Mastech MS6530 thermometers can be imported direct from the Hong Kong factory contact for low factory surplus prices if you need a lot of them. Scroll to the bottom of this page and contact Connie Keung for volume discounts:

http://pmastech.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008800556550/pdtl/Industrial-thermometer/8845981292/Infrared-Thermometer.htm

The Knouzm company lied to us when they said it is made in the USA on their web page (DIS 300 feature #15): http://knouzm.net/en/dis-300.html

Knouzm lied about the place this thermometer was made just like they lied about the "13 Laser Waves considered as Ground Probes to measure", and just like they lied in their manual about adding two extra sensors for the treasure hunter. This is nothing but an obsolete Mastech Infrared thermometer that you can buy for about $100 or less from a Hong Kong importer. It cannot "discover from 20 Degree C to 527 Degree C for far distances and huge depths" as the web page states. It can only measure surface temperature. The Knouzm "Laser Gun (DIS 300)" cannot find treasure any better than an obsolete Mastech MA5630. Why would anyone pay $6000 for this cheap thermometer? Because the Knouzm company lied and made them believe it was modified so it can find treasure? Hahahahaha what kind of retarded idiot would believe that crap?


Here are some fun pages if you want to find out more about Mastech:

See animated views of the Mastech factory here. Just look at all those factory workers on the assembly line. I wonder how much Mastech would charge to rework some of the surplus MS6530 thermometers to show a .g or .c when you push the mode button button? Hmmm.. too bad you cant modify the display to say "Treasure Finding Mode".

http://www.p-mastech.com/profile_factory_tour.htm

The Mastech company is known for making electronic instruments that are sold to people who want cheap knock-offs of quality American made products. Even their factory website brags about using American brands like Wavetech, Fluke, and Techtronics to factory-test their products. http://www.p-mastech.com/profile.htm

Let's see what kind of products Mastech lists in their catalog:

http://www.mastech.com.cn/

I was not able to find anywhere to buy Mastech products online except a few items on ebay and on amazon.com. But I did find this website for a company who supplies electronics to Australia that has a Mastech product section:

http://www.transtek.com.au/products/mastech.html

[hung]

Got it

OK, I found a MASTECH 6530 being sold here in an out of state store here in Brazil. Price is not as low as in the US.

Only way to know if they are similar is comparing both.
I will try to test or have someone test the knouzm device here.
Alhtough Knouzm is notorious for his outrageous prices and doubtful products, I will give them the benefit of doubt for now.

[Carl-NC]

This is not true. Gold does produce heat when aimed with specific frequencies of laser lights and it's also used by NASA space suits for its heat reflection properties:

You are correct, gold is an excellent reflector of infrared radiation. But infrared radiation does not penetrate soil, so buried gold is not exposed to infrared radiation. Nor will those laser beams penetrate the soil, so let's not make any silly assertions that they will.

Also see this link:
http://www.physorg.com/news63003999.html

This irrelevant.

The company states that due to electron structure, gold and other royal metals retain heat longer when buried overnight.
This might or might not be true. I will make tests to corroborate this or not.

False.

When infrared radiation hits the surface of the ground, it is converted into thermal energy, which then propagates mostly via thermal conduction, not thermal radiation. Any buried metal will take on the temperature of the surrounding soil -- again via conduction -- regardless of whether it's gold or iron or whatever. Most metals, including gold, have very high thermal diffusivity compared to the surrounding soil, so they will tend to maintain the same temperature... that is, buried metal will probably not show a thermal lag.

You are presenting the same skeptic's logic of 'one size fits all'. No, one size does not fit all. If you think dowsing does not work keep it only as your opinion and not a fact.

Every dowser who has tried to show me that dowsing works has failed miserably. When someone takes my $25,000, then I will reconsider.

Now since you live in US, you or anybody here could try to use the Mastech device and see if the device can be used as Knouzm says. I would try to collect data here from the DIS300.
We could compare results and only this way we would know if the Mastech has been modified or not.

I have just purchased a MS6530 off eBay, for $59. Compare that to $2200 for the DIS-300.

- Carl

[hung]

You are correct, gold is an excellent reflector of infrared radiation. But infrared radiation does not penetrate soil, so buried gold is not exposed to infrared radiation. Nor will those laser beams penetrate the soil, so let's not make any silly assertions that they will.

This irrelevant.

False.

When infrared radiation hits the surface of the ground, it is converted into thermal energy, which then propagates mostly via thermal conduction, not thermal radiation. Any buried metal will take on the temperature of the surrounding soil -- again via conduction -- regardless of whether it's gold or iron or whatever. Most metals, including gold, have very high thermal diffusivity compared to the surrounding soil, so they will tend to maintain the same temperature... that is, buried metal will probably not show a thermal lag.

Every dowser who has tried to show me that dowsing works has failed miserably. When someone takes my $25,000, then I will reconsider.

I have just purchased a MS6530 off eBay, for $59. Compare that to $2200 for the DIS-300.

- Carl

I honestly don't agree with your statements above. You are not considering earth's own emissions regarding buried metals. But let's not waste time arguing.
At least now we can count on test on your part regarding the 6530?

[Carl-NC]

I honestly don't agree with your statements above. You are not considering earth's own emissions regarding buried metals. But let's not waste time arguing.

What emissions?

At least now we can count on test on your part regarding the 6530?

Sure.

- Carl

[hung]

Too many.
Thermal emissions, radioactive emissions, etc. Most of those are undersestimated as is the radioactive power released. Earth’s bulk iron core has a high oxygen isotopic ratio.
Add to that, recent studied rare emissions in the thioindates.

[J_Player]

Too many.
Thermal emissions, radioactive emissions, etc. Most of those are undersestimated as is the radioactive power released. Earth’s bulk iron core has a high oxygen isotopic ratio.
Add to that, recent studied rare emissions in the thioindates.

Which of these emissions do you claim are responsible for allowing us to detect buried gold with an infrared thermometer? Which studies show that rare emissions allow buried gold detection with an infrared thermometer?

[Qiaozhi]

Well, you probably could find a ghost with it. I hear that their presence is betrayed by a sudden temperature drop.

Perhaps that's why Hung wrote this:

NOTICE:
I- This device has been manufactured for many purposes. Regarding the

treasure haunter, two sensors were added to the device to work more professionally in the difficulty soil and earth conditions.

[J_Player]

Trreasure Haunter...

Don't you mean:

Regarding the treasure haunter, two sensors were added to the device to work more professionally in the difficult soul and earthly condition?