some cosiderations

[Max]

The object. Question that I can't answer: Why is very well detectable, independent of the size? During transmission of oscillator the frequency scape as spark in the gap an causes the good detection??? The off resonance detector is in combination secondary RF detector.

Hi,
sorry but can't see anything (spark ???) but just a thing that seems a BS of a dog that suffer of colithe and eats just spinach!
Maybe is of Eugene (Popeye's dog).

Best regards,
Max

[michael]

....The object I found (several times found the same type) causes a RESONANCE or microspark, DON'T KNOW, but Esteban discover this effect he call "effect E", at 5-7 meters of the detector-system. Download video here (take with cellular, sorry quality), more than 2 Mb: http://www.sendspace.com/file/smrfnz
More later the object.

Hi Nihil Roma
it was interesting, who is the guy in this demo? Esteban?
do you have more of these demos with more details e.g. excavating object and with more quality? if yes, please put for download.
meanwhile; would you please share us in all of youe experiences with LRLs and your found objects? what LRL do you use?
Regards.

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Hi,
sorry but can't see anything (spark ???) but just a thing that seems a BS of a dog that suffer of colithe and eats just spinach!
Maybe is of Eugene (Popeye's dog).


Best regards,
Max

(Here drawing with copyright.)

The same as RObert, you're a good comic maker, but RObert is best than you! Of course, you're one of the follower!

Please, go in your Tesoro thread an be workable your bad-no discriminative Bandido, you're an expert on it.

Wich is more important: If it comes of a BS of a dog or if can be detectable at 5-7 m, and a coin at 20-25 m? Is this your only argument?

You, RObert, Mr. Ironclad (or similar name) and other small enemies make of this forum a low-language forum.

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Is in reference to this forum or what? Do you can feel a few shane? Please, leave far the bad words.

7/30/2007, 8:06 pm. Part of the text: The insults and garbage that appear on other forums can stay there.

Here complete:

http://members5.boardhost.com/MetalDetecting/msg/1185840362.html

[Max]

Hi,
sorry but can't see anything (spark ???) but just a thing that seems a BS of a dog that suffer of colithe and eats just spinach!
Maybe is of Eugene (Popeye's dog).


Best regards,
Max

(Here drawing with copyright.)

The same as RObert, you're a good comic maker, but RObert is best than you! Of course, you're one of the follower!

Please, go in your Tesoro thread an be workable your bad-no discriminative Bandido, you're an expert on it.

Wich is more important: If it comes of a BS of a dog or if can be detectable at 5-7 m, and a coin at 20-25 m? Is this your only argument?

You, RObert, Mr. Ironclad (or similar name) and other small enemies make of this forum a low-language forum.

Hi,
about "(Here drawing with copyright.)" that was expired... anyway, you never posted any copyrighted material here ? That maybe could interest the Admin here, but maybe I've touched a sensitive nerve with that drawing!

"Please, go in your Tesoro thread an be workable your bad-no discriminative Bandido, you're an expert on it."
Of course I am. And disc is not good as I want but works, and I've found many good things with my homemade "no discriminative" bandido.
Well, I'd like having a total iron ignoring... but for now it's a dream, like with any other VLF.

"you're a good comic maker"
and you ? Read your posts.
Oh yeah, you're a Buster Keaton follower... You want appear serious!
But your theories and examples aren't less comic than my shows here.

"Wich is more important: If it comes of a BS of a dog or if can be detectable at 5-7 m, and a coin at 20-25 m? Is this your only argument? "

Coin at 20-25 m ? It was 1 mile or not ??? Now 20-25 meters only !?
Your devices couldn't find any coin, at any distance... that's the real problem.

"You, RObert, Mr. Ironclad (or similar name) and other small enemies make of this forum a low-language forum."

Oh wow! Just for a comic strip and some more dog's BS! What a sense of humor!
Problem is that those BS you're talking about cost thousand dollars... and for what ? For nothing! No science, no detection of anything but noise, nothing of nothing !

Just you can post BS here !? Have you the copyright ???
The spark, the gap, the brass... and a plumbing PIPE: recipe for mineoro!

Or for some electrified plumber.

Kind regards,
Max

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Coin at 20-25 m ? It was 1 mile or not ??? Now 20-25 meters only !?

Who tell I can detect a coin at 1 mille? You're sick, man! Mixing all, no precission, and you're of the IW!! With this "precission" you make your bad coils!!!

Problem is that those BS you're talking about cost thousand dollars... and for what ? For nothing! No science, no detection of anything but noise, nothing of nothing !

Your followers think you tell truth, but you're lying here!

If you can't build a decent coil, how can you pontificate about other thinks?

[Max]

Coin at 20-25 m ? It was 1 mile or not ??? Now 20-25 meters only !?

Who tell I can detect a coin at 1 mille? You're sick, man! Mixing all, no precission, and you're of the IW!! With this "precission" you make your bad coils!!!

Problem is that those BS you're talking about cost thousand dollars... and for what ? For nothing! No science, no detection of anything but noise, nothing of nothing !

Your followers think you tell truth, but you're lying here!

If you can't build a decent coil, how can you pontificate about other thinks?

Hi,
oh yeah... yeah I'm the problem here! (for you and your fake business )

my 22cm diameter DD coil on bandidoII clone detect 1eur at 30cm underground ! Bad ? Yes, I don't make good coils! Never do one!

Facts talk for me.

Oh yeah, sorry... you understand nothing of MD... just sell/ads gizmo-crappy-junky-LRL so you can get 25m !

Then appearing here to make the professor! Of what ? Of JUNK ?



Only 25m you would like to see will be the BS level in your head...

Nothing of nothing, that's what you offer here BUT some novel and dream about fabulous long-range-detectors to keep on the business.

You're the sick here, very sick ! And all your followers and belivers.

You're a tribe of nonsense... have no scientific argumentation, have no real facts, have no proofs of nothing.
Just crappy thinking all the time, crappy advertise and monkey-business.

That's what you are. Everyone knows.

So find a good doctor or just get the money and shut your mouth.

Kind regards,
Max

[Nihil Roma Maius]

As I said, I don't sell LRL devices. Proof the place when I wrote that I sell devices. In other words, you're lying, and the people who read first time, believe that you're telling the truth. So, PROOF I need, and the others. Show me the post in where I wrote I'm a LRL seller.

If you can't prove it, then you're lying. I'm waiting.

But doctor against lies don't exist, you have not cure.

And yes, I know how build MD and the "others", and you not. This is the reason you hate me.

You detect a 1 euro coin at 30 cm? Good! Congratulations! I'm searching for more deepest IB/VLF MD, because with the old Heathkit GD-90 (built myself) I achieve the 40 cm for the size of 1 euro coin in not bad terrain, but demand very fine adjustment in the coils, you can't achieve, shure!

Tesoro and others are OK for the ground controls and more. Also I build these types and I'm not conformist with these. Now I have official schematic of deepest detectors.

Also electronic LRL detectors based on coils demands fine adjustments!

As you see, I haven't followers, I can deffend myself, OK?

* * * * * * * * *

You're a tribe of nonsense... have no scientific argumentation, have no real facts, have no proofs of nothing.
Just crappy thinking all the time, crappy advertise and monkey-business.

That's what you are. Everyone knows.

Yes, this is based in scientific method (the devices I build), yes real facts (your prejudice is since your short panorama, yes, OK?), yes there are proofs, but nobody wish to see, the worst blind is the person who don't want to see).

Who are everyone? Where is? You? Where are the others? Where is my real enemy who can shut my mouth?

The %&*@! (your preferred words) is your tongue. IW MD constructor! Ha!

I repeat: If you can't prove the above, then you're lying. I'm waiting.

Do you read the post on other forum? The insults and garbage that appear on other forums can stay there.

http://members5.boardhost.com/MetalD...185840362.html

For them, is not comic drops, has another qualification.

So, make all us this forum free of insults, because also I can attack you easily in all the threads you are.

[Max]

As I said, I don't sell LRL devices. Proof the place when I wrote that I sell devices. In other words, you're lying, and the people who read first time, believe that you're telling the truth. So, PROOF I need, and the others. Show me the post in where I wrote I'm a LRL seller.

If you can't prove it, then you're lying. I'm waiting.

But doctor against lies don't exist, you have not cure.

And yes, I know how build MD and the "others", and you not. This is the reason you hate me.

You detect a 1 euro coin at 30 cm? Good! Congratulations! I'm searching for more deepest IB/VLF MD, because with the old Heathkit GD-90 (built myself) I achieve the 40 cm for the size of 1 euro coin in not bad terrain, but demand very fine adjustment in the coils, you can't achieve, shure!

Tesoro and others are OK for the ground controls and more. Also I build these types and I'm not conformist with these. Now I have official schematic of deepest detectors.

Also electronic LRL detectors based on coils demands fine adjustments!

As you see, I haven't followers, I can deffend myself, OK?

* * * * * * * * *

You're a tribe of nonsense... have no scientific argumentation, have no real facts, have no proofs of nothing.
Just crappy thinking all the time, crappy advertise and monkey-business.

That's what you are. Everyone knows.

Yes, this is based in scientific method (the devices I build), yes real facts (your prejudice is since your short panorama, yes, OK?), yes there are proofs, but nobody wish to see, the worst blind is the person who don't want to see).

Who are everyone? Where is? You? Where are the others? Where is my real enemy who can shut my mouth?

The %&*@! (your preferred words) is your tongue. IW MD constructor! Ha!

I repeat: If you can't prove the above, then you're lying. I'm waiting.

Do you read the post on other forum? The insults and garbage that appear on other forums can stay there.

http://members5.boardhost.com/MetalD...185840362.html

For them, is not comic drops, has another qualification.

So, make all us this forum free of insults, because also I can attack you easily in all the threads you are.

Hi,
are you OK ? Seems you're a bit upset... ? Why ?

PROOF WHAT ? THAT "Nihil Roma Maius" SELL OR ADVERTISE LRLs ?

Use your real name if your not trying to sell fake informations here!

You support nonsense, read all your posts about spark, gaps and DETECTION OF COINS FROM 25 METERS AWAY!

You act much like Hung did before... saying that NO, you aren't in the business... YOU KNOW MANIFACTURER/INVENTOR (Damaso of Mineoro in that case, now who ?)... that you're a witness of the LRL working ?

Aren't you ???

You just use a nickname (just another) to mask your identity cause you was already pissed off of that forum by EDUCATED USERS that are tired of reading all that fake stuff YOU'D LIKE TO SELL THEM.

"And yes, I know how build MD and the "others", and you not. This is the reason you hate me."

I hate you ? No no... you're just funny for me. And that's all. Hate would mean I had bought some of these crappy LRL by you or some of your friends of the LRL-tribe here... BUT I NEVER BOUGHT ONE!

My friend (I've talked about) hates all of you... but not me. I found funny all this crappy world YOU IMAGINE EXIST. THE 25 METERS TOO!
YOUR ARE BETTER THAN ANY PROZAC!

"Show me the post in where I wrote I'm a LRL seller."
Oh yeah... you are just SUPPORTER ! AREN'T YOU !?
If you say "OK, I'M THE FAKE MANIFACTURER PLEASE BUY MY BS..."
the GAME ENDS! You're funny, man.

"You detect a 1 euro coin at 30 cm? Good! Congratulations! I'm searching for more deepest IB/VLF MD, because with the old Heathkit GD-90 (built myself) I achieve the 40 cm for the size of 1 euro coin in not bad terrain, but demand very fine adjustment in the coils, you can't achieve, shure!"

Oh yeah, yeah you are a master of MD! I'm the brainless ! Sure !

"Tesoro and others are OK for the ground controls and more. Also I build these types and I'm not conformist with these. Now I have official schematic of deepest detectors.

Also electronic LRL detectors based on coils demands fine adjustments!

As you see, I haven't followers, I can deffend myself, OK?"

You have followers... and need increase of number... cause if not you wouldn't post here anymore! No reason.

Keep the business on. THAT'S YOUR (AND YOUR TRIBE) GOAL.

"Yes, this is based in scientific method (the devices I build), yes real facts (your prejudice is since your short panorama, yes, OK?), yes there are proofs, but nobody wish to see, the worst blind is the person who don't want to see)."

Scientific what ??? Funny... even scientific claims now !?
There are proofs ... OK , IF YOU SAY THAT I HAVE TO TRUST YOU!
For now I see only BS and PVC PIPES.

WHY DON'T YOU WIN THE LRL CHALLENGE ?
I PROMISE I'LL EAT AN ENTIRE MINEORO IN FRONT OF CAMERA, I SWEAR, IF YOU WIN THE CHALLENGE AND GOT THE JACKPOT!

C'MON ... GIVE US THE PROOFS IF YOU ARE SO SURE OF THIS "SCIENCE".
I'M AWAITING !


"So, make all us this forum free of insults, because also I can attack you easily in all the threads you are."

INSULTS ??? Just for some comic strip ! The sensitive nerve again!

You call me liar and then I'm insulting you ??? How ???

With facts ??? With truth ???

AGAIN (so we'll see who is the lyar here):


WHY DON'T YOU WIN THE LRL CHALLENGE ?
I PROMISE I'LL EAT AN ENTIRE MINEORO IN FRONT OF CAMERA, I SWEAR, IF YOU WIN THE CHALLENGE AND GOT THE JACKPOT!

C'MON ... GIVE US THE PROOFS IF YOU ARE SO SURE OF THIS "SCIENCE".
I'M AWAITING !

Best regards,
Max

[Nihil Roma Maius]

As I said you, I'm not promoting nothing. I'm not representative of nothing or nobody.

Real name? Max is not your real name? Or yes?

You just use a nickname (just another) to mask your identity cause you was already pissed off of that forum by EDUCATED USERS that are tired of reading all that fake stuff YOU'D LIKE TO SELL THEM.

Nothing to do with me. As I'm not promoting sellers or brands. Who are the educated users that pissed off my person in this forum? Give me a name. One user is Michael. He not pissed nobody. And more a few, but nobody pissed off.

Who are part of the tribe? Do you think I'm part of an indian tribe, also? This is in your poor mind, and maybe you are racist!

Yes, I support theory, no sellers. Also, no theory of sellers. So, prove my implication.

You have followers... and need increase of number... cause if not you wouldn't post here anymore! No reason.

Where are the followers? Only persons that ask. Ah! You are scare if I can attract followers! This is the reason you want to invade all the forums, you're make-dark the understanding. So, you wish to carry followers. But no if you can't prove my implication in sales and brands. As I can't prove a workable LRL method, you can't prove that I'm impicated in busine$$.

Where is the plastic pipe I use? Yes, you're confussed .

Who provides your bad information? Are you acting alone? Maybe not.

Challenge? I have not interest in it.

The only proof I can provide are video or similars, or what is proof for you? Public complete schematic?

Of course, if you can't prove that I'm seller or promoting brands of LRL, you'll become in a BIG LIAR. Here and in other threads.

[Max]

As I said you, I'm not promoting nothing. I'm not representative of nothing or nobody.

Real name? Max is not your real name? Or yes?

You just use a nickname (just another) to mask your identity cause you was already pissed off of that forum by EDUCATED USERS that are tired of reading all that fake stuff YOU'D LIKE TO SELL THEM.

Nothing to do with me. As I'm not promoting sellers or brands. Who are the educated users that pissed off my person in this forum? Give me a name. One user is Michael. He not pissed nobody. And more a few, but nobody pissed off.

Who are part of the tribe? Do you think I'm part of an indian tribe, also? This is in your poor mind, and maybe you are racist!

Yes, I support theory, no sellers. Also, no theory of sellers. So, prove my implication.

You have followers... and need increase of number... cause if not you wouldn't post here anymore! No reason.

Where are the followers? Only persons that ask. Ah! You are scare if I can attract followers! This is the reason you want to invade all the forums, you're make-dark the understanding. So, you wish to carry followers. But no if you can't prove my implication in sales and brands. As I can't prove a workable LRL method, you can't prove that I'm impicated in busine$$.

Where is the plastic pipe I use? Yes, you're confussed .

Who provides your bad information? Are you acting alone? Maybe not.

Challenge? I have not interest in it.

The only proof I can provide are video or similars, or what is proof for you? Public complete schematic?

Of course, if you can't prove that I'm seller or promoting brands of LRL, you'll become in a BIG LIAR. Here and in other threads.

Hi,
you wrote on GSabre thread:

"(And Max, I don't sell any LRL detectors. Also, I'm not the person who detect a gold medal at 700-800 m with electronic LRL. I was a witness! )."

So you are a "witness" (like HUNG), and support LRL-fakes, and know people that makes that LRL stuff and make such demonstration.

You are a supporter of fake claims here :

YOU WROTE THIS:

"
Yes, Esteban is correct in this point. Metal detector can sniff at some meters object size of a coin. A good system is off-resonance type at frequency between 60 to 160 Khz. Always, here, the problem is that this system need metal buried for some years for to be detectable. IR is very but VERY GOOD. No for to measure the temp, no, as a type of antenna that collect the phenomenom, an "electric field", or directly IR emission of metals. He post many types of pistols olds and news, so is a reality. I found a small object that EVER causes problem in electronic long distance detector, look in the video that is not very insistent for the size, but there are. The object I found (several times found the same type) causes a RESONANCE or microspark, DON'T KNOW, but Esteban discover this effect he call "effect E", at 5-7 meters of the detector-system. Download video here (take with cellular, sorry quality), more than 2 Mb:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/smrfnz

More later the object."

EFFECT E ? EXPLAIN THAT EFFECT E IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!

also you wrote:

"Wich is more important: If it comes of a BS of a dog or if can be detectable at 5-7 m, and a coin at 20-25 m? Is this your only argument? ""

A coin detectable at 25 meters: SO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

"Maybe the model or design is different but some devices by independent experimenters works great! Looks different but also works! Awake!!! If you can modificate a car, also you can modificate a discriminative 20 Khz MD for medium range!"

A car is like a Metal Detector: SO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ONLY BS. THAT'S WHAT YOU OFFER HERE. EVERYONE CAN SEE.

About the "LRL-tribe", racism have nothing to do with my definition:
LRL-tribe stays for a group of people here that share interests in this LRL "industry", and you are, without any doubt, one of those.
Now with few or not at all credits... and so you need another nickname, mr.
Wilson VLF 710.

OLD GAMES, OLD PLAYERS as I've already said.

"Challenge? I have not interest in it."

Oh yeah, yeah

seems nobody has... or maybe CAUSE NOBODY COULD FIND NOTHING WITH THAT CRAPPY LRL.

No interest, yeah... BUT you have interest in filling the threads of fake claims.

LRL = TOTAL NONSENSE AND BIG MONKEY BUSINESS.

That's all.

Kind regards,
Max

[Leto]

Horatio?

Wish I had the time to read these LRL threads more often.

Max better to stop this >Don Quijote< endeavour, this topic has nothing practical to offer..

Nihil Roma Maius can you give us a block-diagram or shematic of this Induction Balance Long Range Detector? Or just words?? As written (I belive by Esteban) Rx/Tx coils should be adjusted in pico Farrad range? This is all I know.

Nihil from where idea for your nickname - do you also have same old latin textbook..

Alme sol, ... possis nihil urbe Roma visere maius "Horatius"

[Nihil Roma Maius]

"(And Max, I don't sell any LRL detectors. Also, I'm not the person who detect a gold medal at 700-800 m with electronic LRL. I was a witness! )."


Yes conical coil transmitter in 2 Mhz. AM receiver modificated. Nothing to do with Mineoro. Was many years ago.

YOU WROTE THIS: etc., bla bla.

And what to do with Mineoro and brands?

Is easy to detect in distance 25 and more meters a single coin buried for long time at normal depth. The oscillator transmit via the coil and the RF sensor sniff –and also the coil– microvariations in frequency. You can show this minivariations via audio. The frequency sended by oscillator is like a beam.

I don't said that a car is like a MD. I said: "If you can modificate a car, also you can modificate a discriminative 20 Khz MD for medium range!"

Yes, I found many items with my electronic LRLs.

The worst enemy of the science is skepticism. Skepticism is not only a doubdt-position. It is a pedestal from the one that looks with disdain. I said.

The major part here thinks that they're helping the science with extreme skepticism. Think in the future. Who is going to recognize his mistake?

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Leto

I'll explain. Please, patience.

My latin text for to study in the college was "Nihil Roma Maius".

Roma gove to the world all the civilizated laws we used today. The USA is based in Roman structure. Roma fell down the year 476. USA born in 1776, exactly 1,300 years...

[Qiaozhi]

Come on guys! Stop bickering.

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Time to kiss and make friends - - or perhaps just a group hug.