New gold detector!!!

[Esteban]

Associated phenomenon.

You have 2 different metals as zinc (-) and copper (+). If you attached the both, you have a difference of potential, bimetal effect. Buried for long time conductive items in conjunction with the soil (the minerals has metal) is like a chemist combination in the soil as a bimetal effect. So, around conductive items there are an electric field and difference in magnetism, no equal to the rest of the soil. Difference glitchs critic adjustment of the detector! This is the natural battery of FrancoItaly. Bravo, FrancoItaly!!! Because you resume in few words...

[Qiaozhi]

Associated phenomenon.

You have 2 different metals as zinc (-) and copper (+). If you attached the both, you have a difference of potential, bimetal effect. Buried for long time conductive items in conjunction with the soil (the minerals has metal) is like a chemist combination in the soil as a bimetal effect. So, around conductive items there are an electric field and difference in magnetism, no equal to the rest of the soil. Difference glitchs critic adjustment of the detector! This is the natural battery of FrancoItaly. Bravo, FrancoItaly!!! Because you resume in few words...

But your detector is a handheld pistol-type. How can this detect a potential difference in ths soil? Or is this using a different technique?

[Locator]

So,Esteban?

Goodmorning to all of you!!!

Thank's about your replies

These what you write Esteban are interesting....so we must to detect the alteration of the earth magnetic field which the years buried gold create???

Best wishes for a nice day to all of you......Locator

[Max]

Associated phenomenon.

You have 2 different metals as zinc (-) and copper (+). If you attached the both, you have a difference of potential, bimetal effect. Buried for long time conductive items in conjunction with the soil (the minerals has metal) is like a chemist combination in the soil as a bimetal effect. So, around conductive items there are an electric field and difference in magnetism, no equal to the rest of the soil. Difference glitchs critic adjustment of the detector! This is the natural battery of FrancoItaly. Bravo, FrancoItaly!!! Because you resume in few words...

Hi Esteban,
what you're talking about is an elettrochemistry phenomenon used in the A. Volta 1st battery (made of alternate plates of Zinc and Silver, put in contact by an acid solution trapped by some adsorbent medium).

What you call "bimetal effect" (improper definition) is known also as the "Volta's effect". Volta developed the battery from a theory derived from previous studies of the italian physician Luigi Galvani, and the occasional discovery of currents generation due to immersion of kind of bimetallic tools in gastric acid of frogs in 1766.

"In about 1766, Galvani began investigating the action of electricity upon the muscles of frogs. By observing the twitching in the muscles of frog legs suspended by copper hooks on an iron rail, Galvani was led to the invention of the metallic arc. The arc was made of two different metals, such that when one metal was placed in contact with a frog’s nerve and the other in contact with a muscle, a contraction would occur.[3]"
...
Galvani did not see electricity as the essence of life, which he regarded vitalistically. Galvani believed that the animal electricity came from the muscle. Galvani's associate Alessandro Volta, in opposition, reasoned that the animal electricity was a physical phenomenon, i.e. a metallic electricity.
"

Well known electrochemistry of some hundreds years ago. What's new ?

"So, around conductive items there are an electric field and difference in magnetism, no equal to the rest of the soil."

This is true only for a limited time, and there is no electric "field", but currents. The reactions end sooner or later. Matter of superficial oxides barriers and sorrounding matrix saturation.

An electric field ???
An electric field deals with electrostatics, this is a dinamic phenomenon. You have a current flow from the target to the soil (or viceversa, depending of composition of target and soil elements, often both directions due to different elements in soil).
If you want describe the electric field behaviour here you'll have to use the Maxwell's equations set here... but I dubt you know them for real.

And we are talking of small currents involved for a limited amount of time.

Differences in the "magnetism" ? If you mean variations of the "spot" Earth magnetic field... we are talking of few picoTesla !
Also causes currents may flow in both ways this is often even lowered.

Now about gold:
you know that gold is really few chemical reactive... so long time buried or not, no big reactions occour with it. Few ions (part per billions in the sorrounding soil) are dispersed due to particular chemical reactions (AuCl3,HAuCl4 and REALLY FEW others)... or due to bacteria...then which kind of current you would hope to find !?
Gold is one of the worse candidate for your "secondary effect"!

Copper is much better... if you want to play with soil-metal electrochemistry.

But then again the reaction stops after a while you bury the copper... so long time e.g. buried copper don't give any "electric field" as you say or any
bimetallic effect (currents).

"Difference glitchs critic adjustment of the detector!"
"This is the natural battery of FrancoItaly."

Oh yeah... so if e.g. you bury a zinc-carbon battery your LRL can detect it from e.g. 10meters away ? Do you say that ?
Easy test... anyone having an LRL could try!

I'm sure you can't.

But if so... how many thrown batteries you'll find with that LRL ?

You cannot detect that current flows using an electrometer-like apparatus.
There isn't any static field due to long time buried anything.

That's why your LRLs can't work. You don't know physics.

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

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Is a similarity. And you don't understand what I wish to tell. You know about physics (is easy take quotations in the net), but it don't help YOU and only YOU for to build an electronic LRL. Same procedures in this matter isn't in books.

Insist: the electricity in sites with buried metal is very different.

Thanks for your explanations, Mr. Because –now– I know who is Galvani and others. Ohhhh!

Dry bimetalic effect (this generates small amount of electricity, not only the Volta piles. I'm Sure you don't know it):

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Esteban,

Are you attempting to detect differences in the local magnetic field or the electric field?

[Esteban]

Hi Qiaozhi

The both. Devices based in magnetics (passive type, absorption mode) must be low impedance loop/low resistence coil for to no catch interferences and detect only non ferrous, but have not much distance, only few meters. Except based in magnetics type MD coils (active). Based in this same type but with many turns coil catch ferrous...
But based on electric field go more far (antenna, microvoltmeter type).

But your detector is a handheld pistol-type. How can this detect a potential difference in ths soil? Or is this using a different technique?

Because, is the form for this kind of detector, is not equal in form that regular MD, except if there are an IB detector coil attached in a box with handle. Just this is the job of the electronic LRL: to detect the difference in the soil, and his more sensitive since you don't approach in the soil, so is free of effect soil and capacitance.

TONGUE: STOP!!!!

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Qiaozhi

The both. Devices based in magnetics (passive type, absorption mode) must be low impedance loop/low resistence coil for to no catch interferences and detect only non ferrous, but have not much distance, only few meters. Except based in magnetics type MD coils (active). Based in this same type but with many turns coil catch ferrous...
But based on electric field go more far (antenna, microvoltmeter type).

But your detector is a handheld pistol-type. How can this detect a potential difference in ths soil? Or is this using a different technique?

Because, is the form for this kind of detector, is not equal in form that regular MD, except if there are an IB detector coil attached in a box with handle. Just this is the job of the electronic LRL: to detect the difference in the soil, and his more sensitive since you don't approach in the soil, so is free of effect soil and capacitance.

TONGUE: STOP!!!!

I think I understand what you're saying.
So this type of detector is totally passive, and there is no transmitted field from the unit itself?
Interesting idea, but can this possibly work in a built-up area where there may be a lot of interference? Surely such a weak signal will totally swamped by background noise.

[Esteban]

The active type is based on MD IB or off-resonance (here oscillator is tr and rec). Regarding BFO, is very difficult to find a stable circuit.

Best if you use all this types far from electric lines and cellular towers (big poison) . I don't try PI type.

[Max]

Hi Esteban,
look at you picture... the sun...
wow.

You're an artist.

Don't know how the sun could be involved in current generation in a BURIED grid of two different metals. That's too far from my understanding... or now you'll talk also of cosmic rays ?

Sun can heat the surface soil then the temperature gradient could cause some effects but not the light directly. Light is stopped by soil. Or your sunrays in SA pass through soil now ???

But then you mix stuff again...
photoelectric effect with electrostatic with volta's effect with thermoelectric effect ?

Next you'll say that there are telluric currents involved ? Or aliens ?

So how many principle of operations have that LRL, have you counted them ?

Tired of all these BS Esteban... IB, off-resonance I've built too...
I know they exist but for me who say that can detect a coin from meters away with one of these for sure never understud how they work.

Do you measure 1Hz variations over 300KHz osc frequency ?


Also my fart could cause that variation, do you know that ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Please, you don't understand. Stay in your business.

You can't. I can with BFO, resonance-off and IB. Here a silver 1892 coin I found with BFO in search head in 1988, my first pistol, built for me by Alonso, with BRAND. If you don't have experience in electronic LRL and FINDS with it, is your problem, not mine.

The rest are your poor speculations.

[Nihil Roma Maius]

Do you measure 1Hz variations over 300KHz osc frequency ?

Never nobody said that the difference in hertz is 1 in 300 Khz. Said few variations in hertz, wich is not the same. New persons in forum who read this can believe that you're telling the total truth and others are liars.

[Qiaozhi]

I can with BFO, resonance-off and IB. Here a silver 1892 coin I found with BFO in search head in 1988, my first pistol, built for me by Alonso, with BRAND.

Hi Esteban,

What TX frequency are you using, and is the selected frequency important?

[Esteban]

High frequency in range 300 kHz is more sensitive, because, of course, variation in hertz is greater, but at this freq. silver paper is very good detectable at few meters. 60 to 90 kHz is more selective and insensitive to silver paper.

[Geo]

Ha. ... ha ..... ha
Hi Esteban
Ohhh ... you give us your technology a little and little (as we say in Greece with dropper ). At how many years you will give us all your technology ????
My regards