Mineoro 2-Box -- 492 feet range?

[J_Player]

I think nobody pay atention to all messages i put in Geotech Forums. I already put here the performance of my Mineoro 08-MI two box.

08 MI detects 1kg (coins) at 60cm in mineralized groud. With this 2box you can´t find single coins. Fortunly this device discriminate iron (size horse shoe).For me its a good metal detector,i find many things,very deep,but not so deep as Mineoro put as propaganda... I try another 2 box,the white´s TM808 and can´t get any signal over this buried 1kg coins(mineralized soil),so this time Mineoro 08MI is the winer.

I think Mineoro 08MI also can find other things like precious stones or maybe nugets,because it as two sensitive metters and is prepared to work with ground resistivity,and also prepared to work with normal MD switch on the box with 12 meter cable,all optional. This device as good discrimination and good deep if you can do the delicate tuning in control panel,machine will give first the metter indication and when more near the target you ear also soud.I can say this metter its extremly sensitive.It can find easy one jar with coins 1 meter deep... About 08 MI i can congratulate Mr.Damasio the inventor for this good 2 box detector,i find deep and nice relics with this Mineoro. Unfortunly the oposit with the other one, the LRL...

I did read your field report about the Mineoro 08M1 2-box detector. From your posts I can conclude you observed the 08M1 finding a jar of coins 1 meter deep, not 492 feet deep as printed in the Mineoro propaganda. You also concluded the 08M1 can discriminate better, and locate shallow targets in mineralized ground where the less expensive competitors cannot. Judging from your conclusions, I would think this might be a good 2-box detector to use for finding metal targets in shallow ground where other 2-box detectors don't get a signal. (of course you need to pay the cost of 4 Whites or Fisher 2-box detectors for a 08M1).

What is interesting is that you say you think the 08M1 can also find other things like precious stones. Now this is where this detector could be an outstanding tool to use in diamond mines and for diamond prospectors. I would love to recover hands full of raw diamonds or rubies using a 2-box detector. What has been your experience in locating precious stones using the 08M1? Does it locate large diamonds like Sharky is hunting in India? Can you post any photos of diamonds or other precious stones you found?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

08-MI 2-box

Hello

About this device to find diamonds and other precious stones,i never try, so i can´t say if it realy works.
The 08 MI as some kind of ground resistivimeter to conect to this detector,they sell it as an extra. Its some kind of bars with cables to conect to detector and to ground,and its possible to measure ground resistivity using the meter of the two box,so i think if there are diferente measure in the field its because of diferent materials buried undergroud.Unfortunly i dont have experience in searching for precious stones.
This two box its a versatil device,it was my unique good choice in Mineoro...

Kind regards

[J_Player]

08-MI 2-box

Hi Morgan

Thank you for your information. I am reading the 08M1 page and I see it has the same propaganda as the MP10 model except the range and depth is printed as 65.62yd / 60m Range, 2,81ft / 10m depth. compared to the 164yd / 150m range and 82.02ft / 25m depth for the MP10. How deep were you able to find your deepest treasure with the 08M1?

Good luck with your testing the Mineoro PDC long range locators. I will wait to see what results you observe.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

lrl Esteban christmas present to Forum

Hi Esteban,

As a skeptic, I'm always intrigued by your LRL claims. The reason I am prepared to take you seriously, is because you don't appear to have a hidden agenda, and you're not trying to make a quick buck from some unsuspecting punter. My only wish is that you post a schematic of something you "know" works. I'm not looking for state-of-the-art, or expecting you give away the crown jewels. Just something that maybe can detect a coin 2m away, for example.

Perhaps that could be your Christmas present to us?

I'm prepared to build it and test with an open mind.

Hello

Are you interested in schematic of this detektorpistol made by Esteban ?
I come from my tests in a real gold mine where i test some mineoro lrl and this detektorpistol the same as Esteban as in photo.All the tests made with mineoro result in complete faylure,we get only randomic signals,so its useless devices for gold hunting.For me it doesn´t matter what Hung says,now i´m absolutly sure about mineoro,only randomic signals,none of them in the same place where tests was made before.
But fortunly with detektorpistol we get two times the signal in the same place and it was found a nice 0,5gr gold nugget at 10cm deep.I ask my friend the ouner of this device if i can make photos and take notes of this electronic circuit,and he say yes. So,i think this device was sell by Alonso but made by Esteban.
I decide not to put schematic here without his permition...
Can you convince him to give to forum this Christmas present?
I will make one of this pistoldetektor for me!!!
Kind regards

[Morgan]

08-MI

Hi Morgan

Thank you for your information. I am reading the 08M1 page and I see it has the same propaganda as the MP10 model except the range and depth is printed as 65.62yd / 60m Range, 2,81ft / 10m depth. compared to the 164yd / 150m range and 82.02ft / 25m depth for the MP10. How deep were you able to find your deepest treasure with the 08M1?

Good luck with your testing the Mineoro PDC long range locators. I will wait to see what results you observe.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hello

With car size target you have meter movment 5m distance with this 2-box. Usualy little coins you cant fint but large coins its possible,only near the surface.
I already return from this tests near gold mine,and one of this lrl found gold but only two meter distance.I need a good E.engineer who help me to put more power on this device.Its not mineoro who find the gold.
There is the possibility to put shematic here...lets convince the inventor,he is among us in this forum

Kind regards

[Qiaozhi]

Hello

Are you interested in schematic of this detektorpistol made by Esteban ?
I come from my tests in a real gold mine where i test some mineoro lrl and this detektorpistol the same as Esteban as in photo.All the tests made with mineoro result in complete faylure,we get only randomic signals,so its useless devices for gold hunting.For me it doesn´t matter what Hung says,now i´m absolutly sure about mineoro,only randomic signals,none of them in the same place where tests was made before.
But fortunly with detektorpistol we get two times the signal in the same place and it was found a nice 0,5gr gold nugget at 10cm deep.I ask my friend the ouner of this device if i can make photos and take notes of this electronic circuit,and he say yes. So,i think this device was sell by Alonso but made by Esteban.
I decide not to put schematic here without his permition...
Can you convince him to give to forum this Christmas present?
I will make one of this pistoldetektor for me!!!
Kind regards

Yes, I am very much interested in the schematic for this detector pistol.

Although I only had a short time to test the Mineoro, there was nothing but random beeping, just as you described. A very nicely varnished wooden case, but useless for detecting gold - longtime buried, or otherwise.
On the other hand, I respect your honest report on the detector pistol. Esteban seems convinced that this technology works, and he doesn't talk BS (unlike some others here) so I'm prepared to listen. If a schematic is forthcoming, I would definitely like to build a copy and perform some proper testing. Who knows? Maybe Esteban is right, and I'm wrong.
Are you able to back-engineer this design? If not, then please post some photographs of both sides of the PCB, and any other relevant details. Thanks.

[Esteban]

Do you can post pics of inside? In first place, if is the pistol I suspect wich is, I'll tell you how works...

[Morgan]

pistoldetektor

Do you can post pics of inside? In first place, if is the pistol I suspect wich is, I'll tell you how works...

Hello Esteban

This pistoldetektor find gold nugget 2m ditance and 10cm deep,no doubts absolutely no randomic signals,give twice signal in the same place,very stable detector.
My friend who buy this device,give me permition to study electronic circuit.Its heavy transistorised,6 circuit board with ferrit radio tipe,i think its the IB tipe pistoldetektor,its not ionic tecnology...next week i must return detector to him.
I´m prepared to make a copy of this device for me.
some people in this forum ask me to put shematic here.I think this is one of your tecnology,so i ask you permition to put photos of shematic.
What is your opinion or advice?

Best regards

[Morgan]

Esteban lrl

Yes, I am very much interested in the schematic for this detector pistol.

Although I only had a short time to test the Mineoro, there was nothing but random beeping, just as you described. A very nicely varnished wooden case, but useless for detecting gold - longtime buried, or otherwise.
On the other hand, I respect your honest report on the detector pistol. Esteban seems convinced that this technology works, and he doesn't talk BS (unlike some others here) so I'm prepared to listen. If a schematic is forthcoming, I would definitely like to build a copy and perform some proper testing. Who knows? Maybe Esteban is right, and I'm wrong.
Are you able to back-engineer this design? If not, then please post some photographs of both sides of the PCB, and any other relevant details. Thanks.

Hello
So,you also another desapointed mineoro client...
I´m waiting Esteban answer,to put shematic here,only with his permition...

Kind regards

[Fred]

Hello
So,you also another desapointed mineoro client...
I´m waiting Esteban answer,to put shematic here,only with his permition...

Kind regards

Morgan,
Esteban already asked you (3 messages above)to post some pictures so he can tell if it is the right detector.
This information would be very interesting, thanks for sharing your experience.
I really hope Esteban will agree for the schematic.
regards,
Fred.

[Esteban]

Hello Esteban

This pistoldetektor find gold nugget 2m ditance and 10cm deep,no doubts absolutely no randomic signals,give twice signal in the same place,very stable detector.
My friend who buy this device,give me permition to study electronic circuit.Its heavy transistorised,6 circuit board with ferrit radio tipe,i think its the IB tipe pistoldetektor,its not ionic tecnology...next week i must return detector to him.
I´m prepared to make a copy of this device for me.
some people in this forum ask me to put shematic here.I think this is one of your tecnology,so i ask you permition to put photos of shematic.
What is your opinion or advice?

Best regards

I know about pistol technology thats works, why not? Many, many... I remember that a part of this pistol, the ferrite oscillator circuitry, the heart, was my collaboration toward Alonso and other few. I suspect is the pistol with 2 ferrites in very critical point adjustment between them. But don't know what Alonso think about to post the complete schematic here... Maybe I ask him? Please, take internal pic with a digital camera.

[Qiaozhi]

I know about pistol technology thats works, why not? Many, many... I remember that a part of this pistol, the ferrite oscillator circuitry, the heart, was my collaboration toward Alonso and other few. I suspect is the pistol with 2 ferrites in very critical point adjustment between them. But don't know what Alonso think about to post the complete schematic here... Maybe I ask him? Please, take internal pic with a digital camera.

... I'll tell you how works...

Thanks Esteban.
This is much appreciated. I'm looking forward to understanding the inner workings of this device.

[Esteban]

Hi Morgan, Qiaozhi and all,

Recently I speak by telephone with Alonso, and he said me there are three detectors like the yours in Europe.

He told me is a system with the 2 ferrites and infrared, is a last modification of the detector with only 2 ferrites.

But now is under negotiation with a firm and IS PATENTED.

So, no deppend of me for to be public. Sorry.

[mosha]

Alonso

Hi Morgan, Qiaozhi and all,

Recently I speak by telephone with Alonso, and he said me there are three detectors like the yours in Europe.

He told me is a system with the 2 ferrites and infrared, is a last modification of the detector with only 2 ferrites.

But now is under negotiation with a firm and IS PATENTED.

So, no deppend of me for to be public. Sorry.

I don't understand, is this device built by you or Alonso?

if it is belong to Alonso, why he sold to us non working devices like mineoro DC2008 and at the same time sell the pistol type in the black market.

[Esteban]

I don't understand, is this device built by you or Alonso?

if it is belong to Alonso, why he sold to us non working devices like mineoro DC2008 and at the same time sell the pistol type in the black market.

I never said I built it. This is supossition of Morgan, no mine. But I know about main oscillator. Nobody sell in black market. The three pistol in existence are 3 prototypes under control by some users in Europe.