ICONOS Gold Detector

[Theseus]

I have been neutrally observing those posts,but really what i have seen is Dell spending time answering posts to call everything lies , but not giving any usefull information.

regards,
Fred.

To be sure, Dell has spent an entire lifetime, ducking, dodging, avoiding and side-stepping all questions and valid inquiries put to him, concerning his scam LRL products. He has actually honed his refusal to provide straight answers to valid questions, to a fine art. Dell is a master of at least two things, Wallet Mining and Avoidance of Issues (also known as telling the truth).

You see, true snake oil salesman, like Dell Winders, must always maintain the ruse no matter what he is faced with, even though we all know the truth of what he is hiding, and we know HE knows the truth. Nevertheless, the true LRL scammer must go to his grave, maintaining his "story". They know this is their best defense, should they ever end up in court.

You can ask questions of Dell Winders all you want, but he will never give you meaningful answer --only name-calling and BS rhetoric.

[Fred]

To be sure, Dell has spent an entire lifetime, ducking, dodging, avoiding and side-stepping all questions and valid inquiries put to him, concerning his scam LRL products.

I understand, but as i said i am neutral here and to make my own opinion, i want to rely on facts and explanations directly from him.

The fact that so simple and badly built stuff is sold so expensive is not very encouraging though...

Regards,
Fred.

[Esteban]

Can you give us more info on you testing THANK
You seem to know a lot about other type of LRLs.

I have buried 15 years a bronze disc 15 cm diameter. As I expected, mods. are for detect regular size items, no for small coins, for example. This bronze disc is detected from 4 meters. Is buried 30 cm depth. I sure no problem for treasure size targets.

Regards

Esteban

[Clondike Clad]

Post photo of your first find.

I have buried 15 years a bronze disc 15 cm diameter. As I expected, mods. are for detect regular size items, no for small coins, for example. This bronze disc is detected from 4 meters. Is buried 30 cm depth. I sure no problem for treasure size targets.

Regards

Esteban

Let us know what you find with the beast .

[Max]

I have buried 15 years a bronze disc 15 cm diameter. As I expected, mods. are for detect regular size items, no for small coins, for example. This bronze disc is detected from 4 meters. Is buried 30 cm depth. I sure no problem for treasure size targets.

Regards

Esteban

You sure have no problems. But others who have tryed to replicate your schematics at the end dropped all that stuff in the toilet and added plenty of water...

Who knows why ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

To be sure, Dell has spent an entire lifetime, ducking, dodging, avoiding and side-stepping all questions and valid inquiries put to him, concerning his scam LRL products. He has actually honed his refusal to provide straight answers to valid questions, to a fine art. Dell is a master of at least two things, Wallet Mining and Avoidance of Issues (also known as telling the truth).

You see, true snake oil salesman, like Dell Winders, must always maintain the ruse no matter what he is faced with, even though we all know the truth of what he is hiding, and we know HE knows the truth. Nevertheless, the true LRL scammer must go to his grave, maintaining his "story". They know this is their best defense, should they ever end up in court.

You can ask questions of Dell Winders all you want, but he will never give you meaningful answer --only name-calling and BS rhetoric.

Hi,
yes I think that Dell is one kind of heritage from past times...and old snake oil seller and maybe need some Unesco protection... just like that old outhouses from the old west!

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

You sure have no problems. But others who have tryed to replicate your schematics at the end dropped all that stuff in the toilet and added plenty of water...

Who knows why ?

Kind regards,
Max

No remember I was post MY schematic(s). The only I remember was the Zahori without complications, simple mods.

Don't worry, schematics invade also bathroom, ready for use! Ha, ha!

Regards

Esteban

[Qiaozhi]

To be sure, Dell has spent an entire lifetime, ducking, dodging, avoiding and side-stepping all questions and valid inquiries put to him, concerning his scam LRL products. He has actually honed his refusal to provide straight answers to valid questions, to a fine art. Dell is a master of at least two things, Wallet Mining and Avoidance of Issues (also known as telling the truth).

You see, true snake oil salesman, like Dell Winders, must always maintain the ruse no matter what he is faced with, even though we all know the truth of what he is hiding, and we know HE knows the truth. Nevertheless, the true LRL scammer must go to his grave, maintaining his "story". They know this is their best defense, should they ever end up in court.

You can ask questions of Dell Winders all you want, but he will never give you meaningful answer --only name-calling and BS rhetoric.

Yes , exactly! This is the nub of the problem. When you've spread lies for so long, it's very hard to admit the truth.

[putrechigi]

test in italy

I also renew the application to dell winders I don't have 10000 dollars but a lot of places whether to make a will the best his/her lrl if and' happy I will pay her' the ticket and the hotel for a week everything suit in my city', but attention the reimbursement will happen' only at the end and after naturally has given test that its lrl works, I assure the maximum seriousness' and impartiality'

you look at these coordinates 42°40'08.23N 11°54'23.73E on goolge hearth is an abandoned village in 1756 here a lot of things have been found and a lot of is possible to find underground still the test he could be done

putre

[Tim Williams]

http://ezinearticles.com/?Defamation-and-Slander-on-the-Internet&id=422889

[Dell Winders]

I also renew the application to dell winders I don't have 10000 dollars but a lot of places whether to make a will the best his/her lrl if and' happy I will pay her' the ticket and the hotel for a week everything suit in my city', but attention the reimbursement will happen' only at the end and after naturally has given test that its lrl works, I assure the maximum seriousness' and impartiality'

you look at these coordinates 42°40'08.23N 11°54'23.73E on goolge hearth is an abandoned village in 1756 here a lot of things have been found and a lot of is possible to find underground still the test he could be done

putre

Putre,
I may not be understanding this correctly, but the way I am reading, it appears you would like for me to travel to Italy, to find Treasure for you with My LRL, pay my own expenses, and if the LRL works to your satisfication and I find the Treasure, you will reimburse all my expenses? Is that correct? Dell

[Dell Winders]

I also renew the application to dell winders I don't have 10000 dollars but a lot of places whether to make a will the best his/her lrl if and' happy I will pay her' the ticket and the hotel for a week everything suit in my city', but attention the reimbursement will happen' only at the end and after naturally has given test that its lrl works, I assure the maximum seriousness' and impartiality'

you look at these coordinates 42°40'08.23N 11°54'23.73E on goolge hearth is an abandoned village in 1756 here a lot of things have been found and a lot of is possible to find underground still the test he could be done

putre

Putre,
I may not be understanding this correctly, but the way I am reading, it appears you would like for me to travel to Italy, to find Treasure for you with My LRL, pay my own expenses, and if the LRL works to your satisfication and I find the Treasure, you will reimburse all my expenses? Is that correct? Dell

[putrechigi]

nothing treasure only the prove

any treasure, enough only that I/you/he/she find in front of my eyes something that is not nails or garbage of this kind but noble metals any treasure for me it goes only also very well a small coin but it has to feel her/it to a certain distance and depth' to say to be a real lrl ok? only true test

[Max]

Putre,
I may not be understanding this correctly, but the way I am reading, it appears you would like for me to travel to Italy, to find Treasure for you with My LRL, pay my own expenses, and if the LRL works to your satisfication and I find the Treasure, you will reimburse all my expenses? Is that correct? Dell

Hi,
yes I understand it about same way... maybe it's good if you travel a bit and forget about melting the glue for a while... The fumes are also toxic!

Oh... sorry you are "Mr. Roarke" and your little "Tatoo" actually melt the glue for you... and smoke fumes...

Well the offer I think is not truly relative to a treasure... maybe he meant that there are old buried stuff... also no value stuff I think, but you just putre can answer about or give some hints I think.

Think you could make jogging in the ancient Rome routes.... seems not so bad idea but unfortunately I haven't any LRL like you have so the offer is for you Dell!

But if you have to make such a travel just to show him that you cannot find coins... like in the Florida beach old story ...well better if you stay there and continue melting the glue with Tatoo!

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

It seems to me putrechigi is offering to pay the travel cost and hotel cost if Dell Winders travels to Italy and recovers non-trash treasure with his LRLs. I would assume that any treasure Dell recovers is his to keep. Is this correct, putrechigi?

If this correctly describes putrechigi's offer, then he is asking Dell to come to Italy and recover treasure in front of witnesses watching, and then take home the treasure with him after the recovery. Putrechigi also specified that Dell could use his LRLs or have other persons (I/you/he/she) operate his LRLs to find the treasure. Then after Dell recovers non-trash treasure (not nails or other trash, but noble metals or small coin that was detected at sufficient distance to be classified as long range), he is reimbursed for his travel cost and room.

It appears Dell is asking questions about the reimbursement to determine his costs in the case his LRLs fail to find any treasure. Here is a quick summary of the travel costs shown on Expedia:

2200 Round trip air travel from Tampa to Rome for 1 senior
164 Midsize car rental from Rome - 1 week
350 Single room rate for 7 days at Hotel Columbus, about 4 miles from the treasure site.
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2714 Total travel and room cost *(this could be less depending on arrangements that pitrichigi might make)


So we see the travel costs are about $2700. This means putrechigi will pay Dell $2700 after he sees Dell using his LRL to find and recover treasure from long range with his LRLs. Not only that, Dell will also take home the treasure he recovers. This could be anything from small coins to huge solid gold statues.

But if Dell fails to find and recover actual treasure with his LRLs from long distance, then he goes home after paying to take a nice vacation at a beautiful lake in Italy.

Hmmmm.... If Dell returned after failing to find any treasure, would he post in the Geotech forum that putrechigi is a liar like he did for Randi?


Best wishes,
J_P


pricing sources

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=fexp&flag=q&city1=tampa&citd1=rome&date1=6/15/2008&time1=362&date2=6/22/2008&time2=362&cAdu=&cSen=1&cChi=&cInf=&infs=2&tktt=&trpt=2&ecrc=&eccn=&qryt=8&bund=1&load=1&airp1=&dair1=&cknd=1&rdct=1&rfrr=-429

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=cars&dagv=1&subm=1&fdrp=0&styp=1&locn=ROME&date1=6/15/2008&date2=6/22/2008&vend=&kind=1&time1=660&time2=660&ttyp=2&acop=2&rdct=1&rfrr=-906

http://www.bbplanet.it/hotel-columbus-bolsena-lake-bolsena_s4260/en/