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  • #16
    Originally posted by Esteban View Post
    Yes, but who will believe you? Only persons with the enough practice and experience.

    The technic is some complex, not simple as searching method used by the most persons. I know an only person wich has tremendous success, and use a complex method, but you need a "secretary" (other person) for this.
    If people don't believe me then why they ask?????
    As you know all we can say everything and to put smiles (etc). I think that it is not so clever.
    Now about the technic.... no it is not complex. It needs only a person to see you, and to tell some things (no secrets) about samples, depth.... etc. Of course it is very good to read some books, and to spend time for practice and experience.
    Maybe one time to take a video with a friend that locate coins and to post here
    Geo

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Geo View Post
      If people don't believe me then why they ask?????
      As you know all we can say everything and to put smiles (etc). I think that it is not so clever.
      Now about the technic.... no it is not complex. It needs only a person to see you, and to tell some things (no secrets) about samples, depth.... etc. Of course it is very good to read some books, and to spend time for practice and experience.
      Maybe one time to take a video with a friend that locate coins and to post here
      was for me... ?

      But I was answering Esteban... anyway now I understand: the secretary is the one who tell you (or let you understand) where targets are located... to make practice... OK... but then it's supposed you don't need him on the real search field !
      Otherwise he must already know where treasure is. Am I right !?

      Kind regards,
      Max

      "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
      But we dont need a reason
      "

      someone said...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Max View Post
        Hi,
        probably is a secretary... of state ? Some kissinger ... maybe! with same intellect I mean...

        Or maybe is like in "escape from new york" the movie... I'm sure he will give you the map of antitankmines and treasure chests along the way...

        no, really what do you mean for "secretary" ??? someone that advice you what to do ??? Like how using your brass rods ???

        Kind regards,
        Max
        No, the secretary of the pic is not the best, no with this dress!!!

        Regards

        Esteban

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Esteban View Post
          No, the secretary of the pic is not the best, no with this dress!!!

          Regards

          Esteban
          Though the appearance is not so "smart", I'm afraid he's still the best if you plan to drop some bombs here and there.

          I remember he made the plan for forcing the north-viets to the meet in Paris... that way!

          Kind regards,
          Max

          "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
          But we dont need a reason
          "

          someone said...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Max View Post
            was for me... ?

            But I was answering Esteban... anyway now I understand: the secretary is the one who tell you (or let you understand) where targets are located... to make practice... OK... but then it's supposed you don't need him on the real search field !
            Otherwise he must already know where treasure is. Am I right !?

            Kind regards,
            Max
            OK, ok I'll explain, but is large, need some explicative drawings. Are things I saw, and with this technic (of course, for some very scientific here this word is not appropiate, pardonnez-moi!) was digging (in my presence) a couple of 11 silver coins in a hoof of cow at 2.30 m depth. For me is more incredible the recipient used than the coins! Another time 4 gold coins below a floor of old house, located (the coins) at 800 m distance. And similars many times, located by the LRL rods manager and the assistant "secretary" .

            They can search for gold, silver, iron, copper, and can discriminate it or for example search for combination of those (iron and gold, for example, this is important!). I remember once they search for iron and gold and found a sword and a medal mixed with bones, so we think was a militar died in battle.

            With this method this singular person (LRL rod manager) has near 100% success, also at great distance, except one time that found a "cemetery" of electric lantern batteries (more than 50). But I think was for big "chemical" activity caused by the batteries! So, I'm a kind of witness if you believe me only 10%!

            Geo, you need an assistant and other things. Let me time for to write and drawing some things.

            And more important: put in practice the method!

            Regards

            Esteban

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Max View Post
              Though the appearance is not so "smart", I'm afraid he's still the best if you plan to drop some bombs here and there.

              I remember he made the plan for forcing the north-viets to the meet in Paris... that way!

              Kind regards,
              Max
              Yes, you're right! This guy was the real president!

              Regards

              Esteban

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Max
                no, really what do you mean for "secretary" ??? someone that advice you what to do ??? Like how using your brass rods ???
                Maybe Dell Winders would make a good secretary?

                Best wishes,
                J_P
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                  Maybe Dell Winders would make a good secretary?

                  Best wishes,
                  J_P
                  Don´t think so: bad sense of communication ...
                  Fred.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Max View Post
                    was for me... ?

                    But I was answering Esteban... anyway now I understand: the secretary is the one who tell you (or let you understand) where targets are located... to make practice... OK... but then it's supposed you don't need him on the real search field !
                    Otherwise he must already know where treasure is. Am I right !?

                    Kind regards,
                    Max
                    No.... not for you. We post the same time.
                    The secret is what sample you must use, at who hand etc...
                    first time dont hold sample, go to a place that there are a lot of iron objects, stop for 2 minutes with the hand and the rods down and put on your brain that you want to find iron. Then lift the rods and go...........
                    I know a lot of people who work succefully the rods, why you don,t believe it. It is strange to me that you have not saw people that can work the rods
                    Geo

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Esteban View Post

                      With this method this singular person (LRL rod manager) has near 100% success, also at great distance, except one time that found a "cemetery" of electric lantern batteries (more than 50). But I think was for big "chemical" activity caused by the batteries! So, I'm a kind of witness if you believe me only 10%!

                      Geo, you need an assistant and other things. Let me time for to write and drawing some things.

                      And more important: put in practice the method!

                      Regards

                      Esteban
                      "But I think was for big "chemical" activity caused by the batteries"
                      At LRL's (Rods) it is more difficult to locate a big target than a small. I think that the chemical have not work here.
                      Now about to let you time...... i wait. i make practice 4...5 times every week.
                      Regards
                      Geo

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Geo
                        why you don,t believe it. It is strange to me that you have not saw people that can work the rods
                        I believe... I believe..!
                        I saw a nuclear physicist use rods to find gold, so I believe. Now, if only I could learn to do the same....

                        Best wishes,
                        J_P

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Geo View Post
                          No.... not for you. We post the same time.
                          The secret is what sample you must use, at who hand etc...
                          first time dont hold sample, go to a place that there are a lot of iron objects, stop for 2 minutes with the hand and the rods down and put on your brain that you want to find iron. Then lift the rods and go...........
                          I know a lot of people who work succefully the rods, why you don,t believe it. It is strange to me that you have not saw people that can work the rods
                          Hi,
                          I actually saw something similar... but was water search. The man who did that was very old and used a wooden Y shaped stuff, a raven.

                          And he did it... so there's something true about e.g. water dowsing I think. But problem is that any scientifical attempt to comprove these kind of abilities failed, as far I remember.

                          Personally I never saw one finding a coin or similar stuff using rods: there are legends and miths on that I hear but I know also that same people who reported some success with these "alternative" search methods also reported a huge number of big failures in VERY good places (but you have make they remember about...making lot of questions)! That's what me think most of the times it's luck or similar stuff... you go on the good places with one of these LRL-person and sometimes they spot something and stuff is found; other many times they failed you simply remove from your mind... self-deception process.

                          I think who belive in LRL forget about failures (many) and remember only about positive findings... they are good willing... but tricked by mind.

                          Kind regards,
                          Max

                          "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                          But we dont need a reason
                          "

                          someone said...

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                          • #28
                            Learning to use L-rods is a lot more difficult than most manufacturers let on. They forgot. It's like learning to ride a bike or fly a hang glider. Once you learn you don't have to think about it, you just do it. That's the physical part of it. You can't just detach yourself from the process at this point. You have to actively search for a response.

                            When doing a sweep procedure in almost all cases the rod does not point straight at the target. The edge of the target's field is a much stronger response. Many times for me, the rod will not want to cross that line.

                            Learning to feel the resonance, the psychic twinge, is important. When I get tuned in, I can feel a slight buzz in the air when the rod passes through the target's field. It's sort of like the buzz you hear when you are near high tension power lines only extremely faint. I've heard of people hooking up an FM radio to the L-rod and tune it to a dead spot then listen to the fields as you sweep the rod through them. Then try to learn to feel them.
                            Last edited by Mike(Mont); 06-22-2008, 12:49 PM. Reason: typo's

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                            • #29
                              Personally I never saw one finding a coin or similar stuff using rods: there are legends and miths on that I hear but I know also that same people who reported some success with these "alternative" search methods also reported a huge number of big failures in VERY good places (but you have make they remember about...making lot of questions)! That's what me think most of the times it's luck or similar stuff... you go on the good places with one of these LRL-person and sometimes they spot something and stuff is found; other many times they failed you simply remove from your mind... self-deception process.

                              I think who belive in LRL forget about failures (many) and remember only about positive findings... they are good willing... but tricked by mind.

                              Kind regards,
                              Max
                              Such arrogance! Just because you claim to have never known any one who has studied, practiced, and learned to use Rod(s) successsfully is no indicator that it isn't being done by anyone else.

                              On the contrary, people have been informing you for years on this forum that it already has been done, and therefore it can be done. Failures are a part of any self learning process. you sound like you have have never experienced any failures in your own learning process?

                              I see your stupid mocking, harassments, and false accusations as nothing more than an attempt to cover up your own ignorance and inability, or unwillingness to learn from those who have offered to share their field experience with the use of Rod(s) or LRL with you.

                              Believing something before you actually experience it is not a prerequisite to learning. You are either mentally and physically capable of learning how to use Rod(s) successfully, or you do not have the mental or physical capicity to learn. Exercising your ability to lean is a personal choice. If you feel you already know everything there is to know about Science, the ability of the human mind, or how and, what hand held Rods respond to, you are the one being tricked by your own egotistical, think you know it all attitude.

                              When you learn to accept the fact that what is claimed to have been done, and therefore can be done, by nearly everyone, if they put forth the amounrt of time and effort it takes to learn to use Rods with LRL, or the human mind successfully.

                              Max, it's such a waste of human potential, and I feel sorry for you, but you and a couple of others here display your arrogance and egotism as a serious mental block to learning and comprehension.

                              "THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" Dell
                              "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                                Such arrogance! Just because you claim to have never known any one who has studied, practiced, and learned to use Rod(s) successsfully is no indicator that it isn't being done by anyone else.

                                On the contrary, people have been informing you for years on this forum that it already has been done, and therefore it can be done. Failures are a part of any self learning process. you sound like you have have never experienced any failures in your own learning process?

                                I see your stupid mocking, harassments, and false accusations as nothing more than an attempt to cover up your own ignorance and inability, or unwillingness to learn from those who have offered to share their field experience with the use of Rod(s) or LRL with you.

                                Believing something before you actually experience it is not a prerequisite to learning. You are either mentally and physically capable of learning how to use Rod(s) successfully, or you do not have the mental or physical capicity to learn. Exercising your ability to lean is a personal choice. If you feel you already know everything there is to know about Science, the ability of the human mind, or how and, what hand held Rods respond to, you are the one being tricked by your own egotistical, think you know it all attitude.

                                When you learn to accept the fact that what is claimed to have been done, and therefore can be done, by nearly everyone, if they put forth the amounrt of time and effort it takes to learn to use Rods with LRL, or the human mind successfully.

                                Max, it's such a waste of human potential, and I feel sorry for you, but you and a couple of others here display your arrogance and egotism as a serious mental block to learning and comprehension.

                                "THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" Dell
                                Hi,
                                if I'm so ignorant... and you are so expert in the "art" of LRL why don't you buy a ticket for Italy then ?

                                I think Manolo will be happy if you'll show him how you can find treasures from remote... half a mile with a paint roller !

                                His offer is serious... so , cause you already have done, and therefore it can be done again... do it there!

                                Now I have to learn using rods ??? Why ??? I have working , powerful MDs here with me... and found already good stuff... I'm pleased to learn something new... if there's something to learn... but I will not waste my time with some brass rod and a "secretary", unless some beautiful girl down my writing desk... cause if you mean those kind of secretaries... well, I agree with you!

                                Don't know why... but I think you'll not make any trip to Italy this summer...... maybe you still like your favourite Florida's beach...

                                Kind regards,
                                Max

                                "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
                                But we dont need a reason
                                "

                                someone said...

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