PDK LRL

[Theseus]

This kind of object (cuted coin and other object don't know what is) was found at few meters, only 3, with absoptive system.

Did you use a conventional metal detector to pin-point and retrieve such a small target?

[Esteban]

Did you use a conventional metal detector to pin-point and retrieve such a small target?

Yes, main when target extends the angle. This occurs with absorptive and antenna types and also deppend of kind of circuit used. Some telescopic antenna system pinpoint very well, but rectangular or circular aluminium loop not very well. This pistol is for medium range (only some meters) and the search head is used as MD (is part of a MD) for to find the unburied item mixed in the sand. Another based on oscillator (can be resonance-off) is more precisse than absorptive.

[Steve in MS]

Witnesses... maybe there are many but isn't enough, only few can be reliable? and other (include me) lie?

No need to probe in prohibited sites. You are right about test sites, I do test in battlefield too. This kind of copper coin (I found 34 in the same place, battlefield. Here just 14 because I bury 4 for test field and 16 was distributed to friends and landlord). I found with an absoption system pistol at some meters.

So LRL works on other non-ferrous metals, not only gold.
Some have given the impression that LRL only finds gold.

[Max]

So LRL works on other non-ferrous metals, not only gold.
Some have given the impression that LRL only finds gold.

If we wanna use immagination... it could also point at something say... Angelina Jolie!

That way could seems something smart rod !

Or not ?

[Morgan]

The NEW CHALLENGE

OK... there is a way to test any LRL:

We have been told that an LRL must have a long-time buried metal target to detect, (meaning more than 50 years). We also know it is hard to find reliable areas to find long-time buried targets. The problem is most of the fabulous treasures have already been found by LRLs and hidden by the people who found them. Also, these fabulous treasures are probably illegal to search, so the LRL users are not willing to talk much about their illegal finds. So how can we make a good test to see if the LRL really works? There is a way:

In the southern part of the USA there is a large area of land where a civil war was fought more than 200 years ago. During these times, the militia wore clothes that had metal buttons and used firearms which shot lead bullets or balls. There are many thousands of artifacts in the form of metal buttons, buckles, gold bars, silverware, bottle caps and hundreds of other items buried in the ground in these battlefields and encampments that were used by the soldiers of the US civil war. There are so many artifacts that metal detectorists come every year to see how many artifacts can be found in the battlefield areas.

Now think about it... The best relic detectors are VLF metal detectors, which may have a depth sensitivty of maybe 16 inches or more. People using PI machines may get a little more depth to find buried relics. but suppose the deepest metal detector only finds relics as deep as 20 inches. Let's also suppose that not all the relics have been found, whether they are deep or not. Consider... there are more relics found in these battlefields every year at shallow depths, and deeper depths, which proves they have not all been found.

Now, if an LRL really works to find long-time buried metals, then it will certainly find some of the civil war relics that were missed by the metal detectorists. But wait.... In areas where the metal detectorists have recovered all targets in their range, there are still deeper targets that they could not see because of the limtations of their detectors. This means that an LRL can still find the treasures that were missed by conventional detectors deep in the ground as well as the shallow items that were missed. Remember... these items are buried more than 200 years, so no LRL should have any problem finding them.

So here is the challenge that can prove your LRL can work or not:
Take your alleged working LRL to the battle areas of the north-south civil war lands in the USA and use it to find buried metal items with witnesses watching and filming your recoveries. You can check the targets with a conventional metal detector to see what your LRL missed (if anything).

Can you do this with your LRL? I think not. So prove me wrong!

Best

That´s great

Next hollydays i travel to AMERICA Lets find some civil war relics !!!

[Qiaozhi]

If we wanna use immagination... it could also point at something say... Angelina Jolie!

That way could seems something smart rod !

Or not ?

If your LRL points at AJ, then it's clearly a trick of the mind.

[J_Player]

That´s great
Next hollydays i travel to AMERICA Lets find some civil war relics !!!

Excellent idea!
Carl-NC lives near the places where there are civil war relics. He will be interested to see your LRL find treasures at long distances, and take movies of it working so he can post the results he sees in the forum.

It will be a good idea to announce the time and place where you will come to find civil war relics. There are many other forum members who live in that area who will be interested to watch. If your PDK can really find treasures at long distances more than 3 meters, then you can have many people to watch and make movies, so they will all say the same as you say. This is much better than to only hear your words. You can also post these movies on youtube so we can all see what happened during the relic hunt with the PDK.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Clondike Clad]

Gold =$25000

Excellent idea!
Carl-NC lives near the places where there are civil war relics. He will be interested to see your LRL find treasures at long distances, and take movies of it working so he can post the results he sees in the forum.

It will be a good idea to announce the time and place where you will come to find civil war relics. There are many other forum members who live in that area who will be interested to watch. If your PDK can really find treasures at long distances more than 3 meters, then you can have many people to watch and make movies, so they will all say the same as you say. This is much better than to only hear your words. You can also post these movies on youtube so we can all see what happened during the relic hunt with the PDK.

Best wishes,
J_P

Why not go for Carl's CASH and put that on Utube.
If the detector works it should be eazy to pick uo 25k have a good time in NYC. You can relic hunt after taking Carl's CASH ,Just think $25,000 .

[J_Player]

Why not go for Carl's CASH and put that on Utube.
If the detector works it should be eazy to pick uo 25k have a good time in NYC. You can relic hunt after taking Carl's CASH ,Just think $25,000 .

Ahh... but we already know the reason not to go for the cash. Morgan has told us he is afraid that his Pistoldetector will be confiscated if he wins the prize. So he does not want to attempt to win the prize.

But if he goes treasure hunting in the civil war relic areas with a large congregation of observers, he will be safe, because the crowd of observers will not permit anyone to take away his pistoldetector. The average treasure hunter from the South has great respect for the propriety of a person's personal property, and takes a dim view of anyone conducting foul play on their turf. I already have visions of some big dudes piling on top of an idiot who attempts to take away Morgan's pistoldetector, and pounding the idiot about the head until he is senseless. However, I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to try this in the southern USA.

Now that I think about it, It seems like Morgan would be safe attempting to win the $25,000 prize, because it will be conducted in the same general area. If you read the rules of the contest, it specifies that any individual who attempts to win the prize will not be required to show anyone the insides of their LRL or to have the LRL confiscated. The only inspection of the LRL is is a visual inspection of the outside it to see that it does not use methods of traditional metal detection, magnetometry, or radiation detection, so the test is limited to the LRL only. The rules state: "Proctor may visually inspect the locating equipment, but will not open it". I would think the people watching this test in North Carolina would be very careful to see that nobody violated this or any other rule in the test.

But it is up to Morgan to decide what he wants to do on his vacation, not the skeptics of this forum. I think if he decides to look for relics in the civil war battlefields, he will find there are many long-time buried objects in these areas such as brass buttons, belt buckles, musket balls and numerous other metal items... maybe even buried gold bars intended to be used by the armies to buy supplies.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Carl´s 25K cash

Why not go for Carl's CASH and put that on Utube.
If the detector works it should be eazy to pick uo 25k have a good time in NYC. You can relic hunt after taking Carl's CASH ,Just think $25,000 .

I dont agree to go for Carl´s cash.
First of all,the PDK only works as LRL with long time ago buried metals,not with fresh GOLD samples.
The Civil War relics looks great,for searching with PDK.

[Max]

I dont agree to go for Carl´s cash.
First of all,the PDK only works as LRL with long time ago buried metals,not with fresh GOLD samples.
The Civil War relics looks great,for searching with PDK.

like the gold I see in your avatar! Sure!

[Esteban]

So LRL works on other non-ferrous metals, not only gold.
Some have given the impression that LRL only finds gold.

I never claim that pistol detector finds only gold. Always I wrote here this works for good conductive metal. Even if you design a pistol for only gold and silver, a couple of bronze or copper coins will be detected. This is not problem. The important is to detect good conductive metals at certain distance.

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

A person wich built an absorptive type based some basic circuit I suggest him, wrote me 30 September 2008. When you move the pistol, signal income as AC even is target acts as a battery (DC).

[Esteban]

Ahh... but we already know the reason not to go for the cash. Morgan has told us he is afraid that his Pistoldetector will be confiscated if he wins the prize. So he does not want to attempt to win the prize.

But if he goes treasure hunting in the civil war relic areas with a large congregation of observers, he will be safe, because the crowd of observers will not permit anyone to take away his pistoldetector. The average treasure hunter from the South has great respect for the propriety of a person's personal property, and takes a dim view of anyone conducting foul play on their turf. I already have visions of some big dudes piling on top of an idiot who attempts to take away Morgan's pistoldetector, and pounding the idiot about the head until he is senseless. However, I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to try this in the southern USA.

Now that I think about it, It seems like Morgan would be safe attempting to win the $25,000 prize, because it will be conducted in the same general area. If you read the rules of the contest, it specifies that any individual who attempts to win the prize will not be required to show anyone the insides of their LRL or to have the LRL confiscated. The only inspection of the LRL is is a visual inspection of the outside it to see that it does not use methods of traditional metal detection, magnetometry, or radiation detection, so the test is limited to the LRL only. The rules state: "Proctor may visually inspect the locating equipment, but will not open it". I would think the people watching this test in North Carolina would be very careful to see that nobody violated this or any other rule in the test.

But it is up to Morgan to decide what he wants to do on his vacation, not the skeptics of this forum. I think if he decides to look for relics in the civil war battlefields, he will find there are many long-time buried objects in these areas such as brass buttons, belt buckles, musket balls and numerous other metal items... maybe even buried gold bars intended to be used by the armies to buy supplies.

Best wishes,
J_P

At the end, the prize is only for LRL RODS user or what!!!

[Esteban]

Excellent idea!
Carl-NC lives near the places where there are civil war relics. He will be interested to see your LRL find treasures at long distances, and take movies of it working so he can post the results he sees in the forum.

It will be a good idea to announce the time and place where you will come to find civil war relics. There are many other forum members who live in that area who will be interested to watch. If your PDK can really find treasures at long distances more than 3 meters, then you can have many people to watch and make movies, so they will all say the same as you say. This is much better than to only hear your words. You can also post these movies on youtube so we can all see what happened during the relic hunt with the PDK.

Best wishes,
J_P

The same pictures in USA take in the 80s I was posted. This team found great quantity of items. I understand you're the only qualyfied witnesses! If you really are scientific-mind, so investigate whats happens begining the 80s in Texas, specially Fortworth, etc. And was TWO TRIPS, 81 and 84 (maybe 85). DO THE 1,000 WITNESSES ARE INVALID, ONLY YOU AND CARL? DO YOU ARE BLIND OR WHAT? Or you cannot believe was made in South America since 1959?

Morgan: If you go to USA, lets they pay your tickets and other expenses. You was very benign. Remember?