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  • Originally posted by FrancoItaly View Post
    Hi Geo,
    Yes with my lrl there is no signal over the target but it was what Esteban said. If there isn't compass effect with max gain it is necessary to increase the gain of the LM358. With the gain at most there must be the compass effect, so you have to decrease until it disappears.
    You can say something more on the magnetic detector?
    Regards
    Thank you Franco, will increase the gain and inform you.
    Now about the magnetic detector is a modified IB detector with ferrite and special setting of phase. Frequency of this detector is near to 7.1 khz but also i have a version at 500kHz.
    I found many objects with it but it is very difficault the phase adjusting.

    Regards
    Geo

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    • I made a mod at display stage of Franco's lrl (xtal version) and now it works perfect.
      Very very stable and leds lights when i touch the antenna. I did not try it out of the lab so don't know if it catch the "compass phenomenon".
      I"ll do it soon....
      Geo

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      • Hi Geo,
        When you touch the antenna the led must go off and with the phenomenon the led(s) must go on but I'm not sure in 100% of cases, by touching the antenna we know that in principle all the electronic works well but it is an empirical way and it may be that touching the antenna has an increased signal as with the phenomenon, but I must say that I never happened.
        Best Regards

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        • Hi Franco.
          I used display schematic of PLL lrl so now when i touch the antenna led turns on.
          Also when i touch the antenna the dc output (after the filter) is increased.
          Now i fly to Germany and tomorrow i will be to Italy for 2 days. After it i"ll go home and will write more....

          Regards
          Geo

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          • Originally posted by FrancoItaly View Post
            Hi Geo,
            When you touch the antenna the led must go off and with the phenomenon the led(s) must go on but I'm not sure in 100% of cases, by touching the antenna we know that in principle all the electronic works well but it is an empirical way and it may be that touching the antenna has an increased signal as with the phenomenon, but I must say that I never happened.
            Best Regards
            Signore Franco

            Is this valid for your PLL4046 LRL version or for Phantom LRL - Quartz Crystal version and earlier versions ?

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            • Hi enjoykin4,
              In all the lrls that I build the target signal and the "touch" signal they are in opposition, but with 4046 lrl it may be that the phase changes for the 2 signals they are the same, perhaps the cause it may be the pcb or parassitic coupling. If we consider a vlf metal detector in all metal mode ferrous and no ferrous target they show the same phase change but opposite amplitude variation. Anyway the important thing is that a target signal it causes a positive signal

              Best Regards

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              • Hi Franco.
                At output of RC filter the target causes a positive or negative signal??

                Regards
                Geo

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                • Hi Geo,
                  At output of RC filter the target causes a positive signal, but this is sure for quartz version, for 4046 version it's possible also the contrary as we have a phase change, the better thing is to try on field.

                  Regards

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                  • New detector is ready. The only that i must do is to close the box, so i give some more photos.
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                    Geo

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                    • ...... other two....
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                      • Hi Geo

                        What kind of Omega antenna is this ??



                        Does this new project is yours or modification of FrancoItaly schematics ??

                        Did your detector detected Gold coin and silver plate 10x10cm at 5m distances in air or in the ground. I am asking about "Phenomenon" - old gold and silver or fresh gold and silver ?

                        ps: about the output of PLL4046 LRL - R3C4-R4C5-R5C6 low pass filter secton - it shoud be negative - so after inverting the "target" signal with IC2A {LM358} you get positive one or in other words LED light(s) will be turned on.

                        ps2: If you want tell me more additional data about your ferrite and omega antennas !! In ferrites exist a process known as Ferromagnetic resonance..... there are also present (in ferrite domains) unknown sorts of spatial spiral waves. There are also exist many Free Energy devices (up to copule of KWatts) extracting Free Energy (electricity) from the Ferrite's structure.


                        Best regards
                        Enjoykin4

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                        • Hi.
                          Coil is not an Omega type but a Coplanar. It works as a magnetic field detector and the ferrite back of it "gives" more sensitivity. It can detect a buried coin (for long time) from 15m easy. With it i found a metalic box from 70m far.
                          I don't understand what you mean about ferrites. Ferrite at my lrl has a u=400 and dimentions 10x200mm.
                          The EFD is the Franco's detector, the xtal version. I did not check it again after the mods....
                          Will try to do it soon.

                          Regards
                          Geo

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                          • Hi Geo

                            You have broke all physics laws with your new detector. 70 meter for box and 15 meter for golden coin is a cosmic technology. Even GPR cant compete with your detector.

                            Now you have to dig all Greek's gold you can find. And it is a lot of GOLD.

                            Regards

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                            • Hi.
                              You have n't righ
                              There are better lrls that can catch the phenomenon from longer distance. If phenomenon is strong then all are possible.
                              I can give you more examples.

                              Regards
                              Geo

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                              • Geo how can you pin-pointing small golden coin - for example at 200 meter distance or better and 20 meter (or better) depth in the ground ??

                                With Flux-gate magnetometer or proton-procession magnetometers you can detect very easy precise variations (disturbances) of earth magnetic field caused for example by iron deposits but not gold or silver or diamonds.

                                If you are interesting i can give you schematic of Russian Professional Proton Magnetometer ММР-203 but he cant help you to detect golden deposits. Proton Magnetometer use massive copper sensor flooded in kerosene to shorten relaxation times of proton fluid and give better accuracy.

                                I dont think "vector magnetic field" is crucial for detecting "PHENOMENON".


                                ps: Try this trick and you will know what kind of EM radiation is present. Put your antenna in Farday shield (heavy metal box - complete detector with antenna) and try to detect something but move yourself several meters from working detector.

                                If there was existed Scalar Radiation from golden target you will detect it with easy because Scalar EM waves can not be shielded like Vector EM waves. This is the cause for example in properly constructed and tunned Tesla Magnifying Transformer.
                                Small Tesla transformer send and receive Longitudinal Scalar Waves even he was in heavy metallic box earthed at one point.


                                Regards.

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