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Rumours of Thomas's death are greatly exaggerated... unless he is emailing us from the Afterlife.
Rumours of Thomas's death are greatly exaggerated... unless he is emailing us from the Afterlife.
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"Sag deinem Hauptmann: Vor Ihro Kaiserliche Majestät hab ich, wie immer, schuldigen Respekt.
Er aber, sag's ihm, er kann mich im Arsche lecken!“
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Maybe... But i dont know how.Originally posted by sweatofglory View Postif your lrl is smart enough to locate any other metal then there is no reason it can not locate and pinpoint gold.
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GOLD, DNA like WTFOriginally posted by hung View Post
????? These guys are just off the rails and out to lunch in SO many ways it is beyond belief!! As for Gold actually RUSTING, erm not a chance buddy, it doesn't corrode because of its electrovalent properties, or has that SIMPLE scientific fact passed you (and so manay others) by??
DNA, Dioxy Ribonicleic Acid, the buikding blocks for life!! Now you'd have us believe that gold is alive?? OMG new levels of gullibility reached. I smell something, and I THINK I know what it is.It it ain't broke, it ain't modified enough yet!!
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Well.... try to remember, you are in the Remote Sensing Forum.Originally posted by Sean_Goddard View PostGOLD, DNA like WTF????? These guys are just off the rails and out to lunch in SO many ways it is beyond belief!! As for Gold actually RUSTING, erm not a chance buddy, it doesn't corrode because of its electrovalent properties, or has that SIMPLE scientific fact passed you (and so manay others) by??
DNA, Dioxy Ribonicleic Acid, the buikding blocks for life!! Now you'd have us believe that gold is alive?? OMG new levels of gullibility reached. I smell something, and I THINK I know what it is.
Here, it is not only possible for Gold to rust and corrode, but it can also exude ions into the ether which can subsequently be impinged on absorptive receiving devices, thereby revealing the whereabouts of said Gold over incredible long distances.
Why is it I keep expecting Rod Serling to return from the dead and start posting here......
The Wallet-Miner's CreedWhy bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?Comment
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Now that is funny, I don't care who you are. Rod would be proud.Originally posted by Theseus View PostWell.... try to remember, you are in the Remote Sensing Forum.
Here, it is not only possible for Gold to rust and corrode, but it can also exude ions into the ether which can subsequently be impinged on absorptive receiving devices, thereby revealing the whereabouts of said Gold over incredible long distances.
Why is it I keep expecting Rod Serling to return from the dead and start posting here......
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Silly me
ROFLMAO at that Rod Serling bit Theseus!! Hey, I wonder if they could find him using an LRL, I bet he's now giving off a few "ions".
I would like to propose a a new LRL'ers creed;
STOP pretending you know how these things work because in reality you have NO IDEA. All these pseudo scientiic terms and mumbo-jumbo theories just make you all look like members of the Clan RETARD.
I ACCEPT that dowsing works, and so may your LRL's for you that is. But as for HOW, it is impossible to say. It's just one of those things that science CANNOT and will NEVER be able to explain (like ghosts).
This forum would be SO MUCH more interesting, AND active, if you just published your finds (if any), HOW you found them, using WHAT (commecial unit or your own design, and HOW about some "schematics" and engineering drawings so we can make our own and test them too) and what sort of response you got, THEN maybe you would start to see a pattern emerge, and people take you seriously but at the moment, you guys are just a joke to those with real technical knowledge.
Sorry if that offends anyone, but try to look at it from a SANE (well mostly) rational persons perspective. Not ALL of us are gullible idiots willing to give our money away.
LRL's are one area where BS DOESN'T baffle brains!It it ain't broke, it ain't modified enough yet!!Comment
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Originally posted by rajesh View Post
Sorry Rajesh, that would be a VCO and is used to transmit a signal on the AM band. They call it a BFO metal detector.
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Exactly Sean, I asked Hung to show us some pics of his finds but so far neither has he or anyone else shown any finds.Originally posted by Sean_Goddard View PostSilly me
ROFLMAO at that Rod Serling bit Theseus!! Hey, I wonder if they could find him using an LRL, I bet he's now giving off a few "ions".
I would like to propose a a new LRL'ers creed;
STOP pretending you know how these things work because in reality you have NO IDEA. All these pseudo scientiic terms and mumbo-jumbo theories just make you all look like members of the Clan RETARD.
I ACCEPT that dowsing works, and so may your LRL's for you that is. But as for HOW, it is impossible to say. It's just one of those things that science CANNOT and will NEVER be able to explain (like ghosts).
This forum would be SO MUCH more interesting, AND active, if you just published your finds (if any), HOW you found them, using WHAT (commecial unit or your own design, and HOW about some "schematics" and engineering drawings so we can make our own and test them too) and what sort of response you got, THEN maybe you would start to see a pattern emerge, and people take you seriously but at the moment, you guys are just a joke to those with real technical knowledge.
Sorry if that offends anyone, but try to look at it from a SANE (well mostly) rational persons perspective. Not ALL of us are gullible idiots willing to give our money away.
LRL's are one area where BS DOESN'T baffle brains!
That really doesn't help their cause, as I mentioned, one can go to most any forum and see finds posted using standard detectors.
I am still not convinced that dowsing works or any of these other souped up swinging pivoting rods.
I will at least give room for the LRLs that have electronics and have a BFO circuit might work but ionics emitting from gold being sensed by a passive mechanical device is a bit much to believe without substantial proof.
At a different time period, like the dark ages, it might be believed more readily but this is the 21st century and people generally like to know devices of any kind work before they purchase them.
So these guys need to get together with "unbelievers" and show some proof that these LRLs work.
For some strange reason, they think we should believe whole-heartedly in something that hasn't been adequately examined by anyone but the LRL community.
Gosh, I hope this appears logical to the LRL users.
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Gold corrodes and gives off ions in the remote sensing forum?Originally posted by TheseusWell.... try to remember, you are in the Remote Sensing Forum.
Here, it is not only possible for Gold to rust and corrode, but it can also exude ions into the ether which can subsequently be impinged on absorptive receiving devices, thereby revealing the whereabouts of said Gold over incredible long distances.
It does in the real world too....
According to geomicrobiologist Frank Reith, ..."In soils with high contents of organic matter heterotrophic bacteria and fungi appear to dominate the gold dissolution by excreting amino acids, low molecular weight organic acids (LMWOAs), cyanide or organic sulfur compounds. These molecules were shown to have the ability to dissolve native gold and act as complexing agents for the resulting gold ions."
Dr. Reith is not an LRL proponent. But he does believe gold corrodes when buried in the soil based on the mobile gold ion measurements he made. In fact, locating gold by finding dissolved gold ion anomalies in the soil is a multimillion dollar industry used in the exploration of gold as well as other metals and ores.
Dr. Reith performed a test where wet soil samples were incubated with these microbes, then gold pellets were added to the soil. After 20-30 days of incubation, up to 3 ppm of gold was found in solution. This controlled experiment shows higher concentrations than are usually found in nature. The MMI method used for gold mine exploration usually finds concentrations of gold ions in the soil at the parts per billion range, not parts per million. Yet the trace anomalies seen when making a survey are able to pinpoint gold deposits up to 5000 feet deep (Yes, gold-dissolving microbes do live that deep in the ground).
Now, for a non-LRL proponent, this scientist seems to have found a way to locate gold at long range. He and the people who run the MMI tests literally have tons of real gold samples that were recovered from the spots they marked as being gold-bearing at mines all over the world.
So does gold corrode and release ions that move up in the soil? Absolutely!
But the amount of gold that corrodes is nearly unmeasurable, and cannot be detected by inspecting the gold object by eye. In fact the gold will not corrode unless there are microbes present which excrete chemicals that can dissolve gold and cause it to form complexes to release ions. These scientists would agree that the gold must be long-time buried before dissolved gold ion anomalies can be measured in the in the soil above the gold. Perhaps it takes several decades for microbes to dissolve enough gold to be measured, and then for capillary action of the rain cycles to transport these ions upward through the soil.
It seems the big difference between the MMI scientist's claims and the LRL proponent claims is the scientists use tools that have reproducible results that they can demonstrate in front of witnesses, and they have two decades of recoveries that have been observed by all the personnel involved in the mining operations. --- no secret recoveries that they brag about and try to get others to believe.
Oh ya... I forgot to add...
The scientists claim the gold ions quickly cease to be ions once they reach the surface of the earth, because they become bound with elements of the soil at that point. --- So they don't agree with Alonso that the ions travel up an additional 7.2 feet into the air and hover where you can detect them with a Mineoro detector.
Read the details of the MMI process for finding gold ions moving up in the soil here:
You can also read some posts I made about the details of dissolved gold ions here:
Or read the whole thread here:
Best wishes,
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Hi.Originally posted by sweatofglory View Post
No i did n't tried at so big gold objects
I tried at some coins (about 190 gold coins ). Also i tried at 15kgr copper (other frequency) and it went exactly up of the object center.
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142.4Hz. more than 15kgs.Originally posted by Geo View Post142.4 Hz or Khz???
How big was the object???
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