Maligned Rangertell Examiner: Field Testing

[hipopp]

lots of differing opinions re:rangertell examiner

gentlemen...the RT examiner appears to divide like no other invention it appears. Allow me to say this....In the dead of night i was putting up a tent just below a hillside at Walhalla which is in our nearby goldfield....gold in quartz reefs was the nature of this enormous deposit....there was quartz laying all over the place at my feet where it had been thrown down from mining activity further up the hillside. Why did the RT Ex pick up two quartz specimens only out of many? the two when broken open shimmied with micro gold. This is sufficient for me to conclude that whatever it is that makes an RT Ex identify gold in quartz is something that i must identify and quantify and therefore replicate. The arguing and bickering surrounding whether the RT works this way or that way is rather premature and may i say irrelevant to the objective of "FINDING GOLD". On the other hand, my friend Faye's deceased husband had a 98% success rate with water divining for local contractors so dowsing will be taken into consideration in due course. However at this early stage i can assure you i am no uri geller, i cannot locate gold and gold in quartz with some sort of suggested meta physical powers of mind over matter. Sorry that is unscientific stuff i do not want to go anywhere near. So lets wait till we get out into the field and do a darn good job of testing the RT Ex from every conceivable angle, function, situation etc etc etc.

[hung]

charged human cells that act as biocapacitors is it each cell?[/B]

Yes our cells store charges and act like capacitors.
You hopefuly will find info on studies conducted about it on the internet. Do a seach and you will know.
I already said I would not discuss such matters in this forum.
Regards.

[Qiaozhi]

gentlemen...the RT examiner appears to divide like no other invention it appears. Allow me to say this....In the dead of night i was putting up a tent just below a hillside at Walhalla which is in our nearby goldfield....gold in quartz reefs was the nature of this enormous deposit....there was quartz laying all over the place at my feet where it had been thrown down from mining activity further up the hillside. Why did the RT Ex pick up two quartz specimens only out of many? the two when broken open shimmied with micro gold. This is sufficient for me to conclude that whatever it is that makes an RT Ex identify gold in quartz is something that i must identify and quantify and therefore replicate. The arguing and bickering surrounding whether the RT works this way or that way is rather premature and may i say irrelevant to the objective of "FINDING GOLD". On the other hand, my friend Faye's deceased husband had a 98% success rate with water divining for local contractors so dowsing will be taken into consideration in due course. However at this early stage i can assure you i am no uri geller, i cannot locate gold and gold in quartz with some sort of suggested meta physical powers of mind over matter. Sorry that is unscientific stuff i do not want to go anywhere near. So lets wait till we get out into the field and do a darn good job of testing the RT Ex from every conceivable angle, function, situation etc etc etc.

You already seem to be convinced that the RT actually works, whereas we (the skeptics) are already convinced that it is nothing more than a disguised dowsing rod.

Have you contacted Carl yet to request details of how to carry out a proper scientific double-blind test? If not, then you are wasting your time pushing the Examiner in this forum. Without a proper double-blind test, the results will be meaningless.

[hipopp]

people and people

one day some itinerant bedouin somewhere drew a line in the sand with a stick. People marvelled at his shapes. Many years down the track some inventive china man drew a line on a piece of parchment and people marvelled. Years down the road someone sneezed into a handkerchief making a nicely muffled sound so the horn speaker was invented and attached to a gramophone which was found by accident when someone accidently scratched a disc making a musical note. Someones teenage son wanted a bit more volume for his gramophone so he invented the valve allowing him to sock it to his neighbours with his renditions of Lily Marlene. A japanese gentleman in retaliation for Hiroshima invented the transistor and japan exported to the world. Remember those metal click toys? they were the good old days. then what happened afterwards is history with the advent of the silicon chip.....Now let me see....that adds up to about seven (7) people, a whole seven people out of billions who have ever lived, who have actually done something. Seven, a lonely miserable seven super heroes who did not lay about all day whingeing and whining and running down any new idea. WOW!!!!!!!! how about we all gang together positively and find out why the heck the Rangertell Examiner works and how it works so we can use it to draw new lines in the sand???

[J_Player]

Why did the RT Ex pick up two quartz specimens only out of many? the two when broken open shimmied with micro gold.

Hi hipopp,
You are talking about gold that you recovered and held in your hand. This is good information to tabulate on a chart to track the success rate of the rangertell. You should also take notes of any times when the rangertell signals a target that you cannot find, for the purpose of establishing a percentage of empty holes. Also take notes whether the rangertell was set to find gold and correctly identified it. Also at what distance from the target the rangertell first gave a signal.

You now can see the difference between tabulating targets that you recovered and targets that you did not recover. A person who buys a treasure locator is interested in knowing the odds that the locator will help him to find treasure that he recovers, not treasure that he does not recover, even when it is confirmed by others who do not recover it.

It looks like you are off to a good start.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

he pointed to empty holes I pointed to it but was necessary first I tell all my story.
when our first PI doesn't detect it we are sure it is down 5 meters depth.(it seems is up to 10 meters as I determined it by 2 L-rods)
now you suppose one guy can pinpoint with an LRL very carefully exact over target, how deep can go down? in less than half way will be tired and leave especially soil be as hard as rocks.whereas the target is there.
doesn't matter by which kind of LRL; dowsing rods, PD .... when there is a considerable target all of detectors will react, all.
do you know what's a considerable target? not a single coin or a bunch of coins; so much bigger.
Meanwhile man, these were not my thoughts or guess or dreams, were entirely based on my personal experiences which we expended a lot to get, albeit I'm sure most people can't figure it out.

Of course you are right. If your treasure hunting grounds are plagued by jins, then you can expect to find many empty holes where the jins moved the treasure to prevent you from finding it. This could also be dangerous if they decide to fight you. My methods will wok only in locations where there are no jins moving the treasure. Expect to find many empty holes if jins have moved the treasure before you finish digging.

Best wishes,
J_P

[michael]

Hi, good to see one knowledgeable person who believes this.
yes J_P, but our first target is still there hasn't been moved, as MDL confirms it with signal intensity that was from first, but as I was beaten at 8 meters depth with jinn we left there to find a solution and find an expert guru to cast the spell.
so we decided not to touch the other 2 locations by the time find the guru.

but believe me over all these 3 locations all kind of LRLs work very clearly; PD, L rods, Dell DDL; detectors speak loudly. if we presume there is not plagued with jinn, digging based on only LRL will surely ends to empty hole as pinpointing is impossible.

[Qiaozhi]

one day some itinerant bedouin somewhere drew a line in the sand with a stick. People marvelled at his shapes. Many years down the track some inventive china man drew a line on a piece of parchment and people marvelled. Years down the road someone sneezed into a handkerchief making a nicely muffled sound so the horn speaker was invented and attached to a gramophone which was found by accident when someone accidently scratched a disc making a musical note. Someones teenage son wanted a bit more volume for his gramophone so he invented the valve allowing him to sock it to his neighbours with his renditions of Lily Marlene. A japanese gentleman in retaliation for Hiroshima invented the transistor and japan exported to the world. Remember those metal click toys? they were the good old days. then what happened afterwards is history with the advent of the silicon chip.....Now let me see....that adds up to about seven (7) people, a whole seven people out of billions who have ever lived, who have actually done something. Seven, a lonely miserable seven super heroes who did not lay about all day whingeing and whining and running down any new idea. WOW!!!!!!!! how about we all gang together positively and find out why the heck the Rangertell Examiner works and how it works so we can use it to draw new lines in the sand???

So you're not biased in favor of the RT then?

And ... have you contacted Carl yet to get the details of the correct double-blind test procedure to follow? If not, how else are you going to convince yourself that this device is nothing but nonsense?

[joecoin]

gentlemen...the RT examiner appears to divide like no other invention it appears. Allow me to say this....In the dead of night i was putting up a tent just below a hillside at Walhalla which is in our nearby goldfield....gold in quartz reefs was the nature of this enormous deposit....there was quartz laying all over the place at my feet where it had been thrown down from mining activity further up the hillside. Why did the RT Ex pick up two quartz specimens only out of many? the two when broken open shimmied with micro gold...

Did you break open any of the other quartz specimens which the RangerTell DID NOT "pick up"?

[hung]

And ... have you contacted Carl yet to get the details of the correct double-blind test procedure to follow? If not, how else are you going to convince yourself that this device is nothing but nonsense?

That's hilarious! Ozzy you can't be for real!!

Contact Carl for what??!
To tell Hipop how to conduct a test??
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!

Carl does not know the difference of acumpuncture from voodoo!

Give us a break!

Hipop does not need to convince anyone or be convinced in the wrong way!
He is clear in his post. He only wants to share his tests and experiences. Not even this you seem to be able to understand?

Oh, I almost forgot.
Congratulations on your new role as 'pupil administrator' for Geoskheptic forums. Now you are officially Carl's spokesman.

[Fred]

That's hilarious! Ozzy you can't be for real!!

Contact Carl for what??!
To tell Hipop how to conduct a test??
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!

Carl does not know the difference of acumpuncture from voddoo!

Give us a break!

Hipop does not need to convince anyone or be convinced in the wrong way!
He is clear in his post. He only wants to share his tests and experiences. Not even this you seem to be able to understand?

Oh, I almost forgot.
Congratulations on your new role as 'pupil administrator' for Geoskheptic forums. Now you are officially Carl's spokesman.

I can see from your post that Hipop´s intentions (should i say interests?) is no secret for you .
Well,for once you´r not alone

[J_Player]

The concept behind RT as I already stated, involves microcurrents and subatomic resonance. High mineralized ground is no problem to it. Conventional MDs besides working on a completely outdated and different aproach are things of the past. So a comparison is out of question.

Your comparison with dowsing rods should be your target as there are elements which relates both, but I'm sure in the end you will comprove that it's not dowsing, although there are several types of dowsing rods and dowsing aspects.

Both dowsing rods and the RT Examiner work by charge interaction involving the charged human cells that act as biocapacitors and micromagnetics. But unlike the dowsing rod that uses the natural law of attraction, the RT employs a transmitting carrier wave to resonate the target and magnetically aligning to it.

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Originally posted by Clondike-Clad
Ok I had to ask this question,

1. What is the output power of the RT tranmitter.
2. What is subatomic resonance
3. what is micromagnetics with the RT
4. what is the RT employs a transmitting carrier wave is it am,fm,pulse can we detect the carrier wave from the RT unit.
5.Now this one I am lost, charged human cells that act as biocapacitors is it each cell?

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Originally posted by hung
Yes our cells store charges and act like capacitors.
You hopefuly will find info on studies conducted about it on the internet. Do a seach and you will know.
I already said I would not discuss such matters in this forum.

Hi Clondike-Clad,
Ummm.... The answers are simple, I think.
However, in order to fully understand the dynamics involved, we must search back to previous posts that hung made describing the workings of the Rangertell:

"From: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=99
This is the principle in which the Rangertell Examiner works. Resonance to the elements subatomic levels when a carrier signal line is shot and returned".

From: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=10
"Back to the Examiner’s concept, there’s a portion in ECE which I already mentioned which might explain how the magnetic fields produced by the unit even diminute might be working provided one gets free of the standard Maxwell Heaviside concept and maybe start to find some backup on the Aharonov-Bohm and the field and potential relationship, as Myron Evans points out as part of an explanation when I presented him the examiner pictures , concepts and my initial tests:

“Interesting! These would be Aharonov Bohm type effects. In a Ricci flat spacetime for example the tetrad is still non-zero because metric elements are non - zero. This leads to the gravitational AB effect. The spin connection in a Ricci flat spacetime is non-zero because the connection is non-zero even though the Ricci tensor is zero. In ECE the potential is proportional to the tetrad and the field is proportional to the Cartan torsion. The latter disappears in a Ricci flat spacetime because it is proprotional to the canonical angular energy momentum density. So there is a potential but no field - AB effect. In the ECE version of e/m the relation between field and potential in shorthand notation is:

F = d ^ A + omega ^ A

so when F = 0 , A and omega are not zero:

d ^ A + omega ^ A = 0

giving an AB effect as in the ECE papers and GCUFT books “

From: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...&postcount=356
"The Examiner is clearly a radionic device".

From: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=41
"Gold is the most powerful 'self defensive' metal when it comes to avoid any harm to its structure, such as rust, oxidation, etc. Its DNA produces a substance which coats the metal to fight against those 'threats'".

With hung's recent post and previous posts, we can gain a clear insight to how he believes the Rangertell works:
To start with, a carrier signal is shot and returned by transmissions originated in the calculator. Now keep in mind how our cells store charges and act like capacitors, which is imperative to the functioning of the signal line that is returned after being shot by the Rangertell. The subatmic resonance which was pre-programmed on the calculator clearly is impinging on the biological cells of the rangertell operator.

How? This is easily explained by the DNA of gold and the organic substance it produces to coat the metal to fight against corrosion. The coding for the gold DNA is what returns with the shot signal, along with the subatomic resonance data that impinges on the DNA in the capacitive cells of the operator's body. After some complex chemical exchanges inside the operator's cell walls, the resultant magnetic field induces movement of the rangertell, thus causing it to point in the direction of the treasure. This is all confirmed by science as told by physicist Myron Evans' details of Aharonov Bohm type effects. Simply open your mind and reject the standard Maxwell Heaviside concept so you can begin to believe that A and omega are not zero.

So we see that the rangertell is a radionic device as hung described, not a pure dowsing rod.

Did I get it right?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Clondike-Clad,
Ummm.... The answers are simple, I think.
However, in order to fully understand the dynamics involved, we must search back to previous posts that hung made describing the workings of the Rangertell:
With hung's recent post and previous posts, we can gain a clear insight to how he believes the Rangertell works:
To start with, a carrier signal is shot and returned by transmissions originated in the calculator. Now keep in mind how our cells store charges and act like capacitors, which is imperative to the functioning of the signal line that is returned after being shot by the Rangertell. The subatmic resonance which was pre-programmed on the calculator clearly is impinging on the biological cells of the rangertell operator.

How? This is easily explained by the DNA of gold and the organic substance it produces to coat the metal to fight against corrosion. The coding for the gold DNA is what returns with the shot signal, along with the subatomic resonance data that impinges on the DNA in the capacitive cells of the operator's body. After some complex chemical exchanges inside the operator's cell walls, the resultant magnetic field induces movement of the rangertell, thus causing it to point in the direction of the treasure. This is all confirmed by science as told by physicist Myron Evans' details of Aharonov Bohm type effects. Simply open your mind and reject the standard Maxwell Heaviside concept so you can begin to believe that A and omega are not zero.

So we see that the rangertell is a radionic device as hung described, not a pure dowsing rod.

Did I get it right?

Best wishes,
J_P

Don't be surprised if Hung forwards your pseudo-scientific description to RangerTell, and it gets published on their website.

Remember this? -> http://www.rangertell.com/to_the_skeptic.htm

[Qiaozhi]

Prototype Examiner

And as for this ... well, the two dangling balls say it all. No comment needed.

[Morgan]

Dowsing Rod´s

Hi Clondike-Clad,
Ummm.... The answers are simple, I think.
However, in order to fully understand the dynamics involved, we must search back to previous posts that hung made describing the workings of the Rangertell:
With hung's recent post and previous posts, we can gain a clear insight to how he believes the Rangertell works:
To start with, a carrier signal is shot and returned by transmissions originated in the calculator. Now keep in mind how our cells store charges and act like capacitors, which is imperative to the functioning of the signal line that is returned after being shot by the Rangertell. The subatmic resonance which was pre-programmed on the calculator clearly is impinging on the biological cells of the rangertell operator.

How? This is easily explained by the DNA of gold and the organic substance it produces to coat the metal to fight against corrosion. The coding for the gold DNA is what returns with the shot signal, along with the subatomic resonance data that impinges on the DNA in the capacitive cells of the operator's body. After some complex chemical exchanges inside the operator's cell walls, the resultant magnetic field induces movement of the rangertell, thus causing it to point in the direction of the treasure. This is all confirmed by science as told by physicist Myron Evans' details of Aharonov Bohm type effects. Simply open your mind and reject the standard Maxwell Heaviside concept so you can begin to believe that A and omega are not zero.

So we see that the rangertell is a radionic device as hung described, not a pure dowsing rod.

Did I get it right?

Best wishes,
J_P

Everything can be more simple if dowsing Rod´s not cost exagerated money,becouse anyway its very interesting to try them in field.
I have good results with this cheap one,but still a dowsing Rod...