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[1843]

Yes sir, I was waiting for your orders.

I never had decision to elongate discussions about this matter to this point, I just wanted to warn a guy with a post, some friends with their questions/curiosity and some like you with ridiculing ,pushed me to put more posts. Any independent person with reading the posts will realize my purpose was honesty pure not to show off.

anyway I see no necessary not to answer to questioner about this matter here or anywhere else. I will answer him honesty to god based on what I've experienced personally not dream or fancy.

Michael,

I see a very bad misunderstanding of all my words from you. I need to collect all my posts and your responses to them so that I can make anything clear.

[J_Player]

On the subject of misquoting:

What I said was: "The discussions here have wandered far from the original purpose of the forum, and are rapidly degrading into a religious debate. Please refrain from personal attacks and try to get back to technical discussions.

I did not say that it had actually become a religious debate, but I can see it heading that way, with some members calling others atheists or whatever. You can continue discussing Jinns (if you must) but I have already stated my own position concerning this nonsense. If anyone else has a strong opinion, I suggest that you do the same ... state your case and move on.

I don't see any misquote concerning religion.
Are you sure your misquote is not from your previous post, just before you turned on your "Jinn filter"?

The fanciful idea that there are some mysterious spirits living underground, whose only purpose for existing is to stop people finding deliberately buried gold, is total poppycock. End of story.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

As I said ... end of story.

[Esteban]

So, the jinns keep the mines and the treasures? The 7 dwarfs are the miners in brothers Grimm's thale... In many cultures is similar.

[J_Player]

So, the jinns keep the mines and the treasures? The 7 dwarfs are the miners in brothers Grimm's thale... In many cultures is similar.

Hi Esteban,
I have read stories from Ireland where leprechauns hide gold from people. Do you think leprechauns are Jinns, or only a similar story?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
I have read stories from Ireland where leprechauns hide gold from people. Do you think leprechauns are Jinns, or only a similar story?

Best wishes,
J_P

All similar stories... If you search in internet, you'll find similar stories, in Europe many...

[J_Player]

All similar stories... If you search in internet, you'll find similar stories, in Europe many...

Maybe these stories can explain the reason why people report Mineoro is not finding treasures in Europe and other places where we hear these stories. If a treasure is moved after first detecting it, then recovery will be impossible regardless of whether it was detected by a conventional detector or LRL. Some people will conclude that there never was a treasure at all, only a false signal. But others will conclude the treasure was moved by Jinns, or other strange creatures like leprechauns. Of course, if these strange creatures don't exist in South America, then there will be no treasures lost because they were moved during the attempt to recover them.
There are none of these stories from Paraguay and Brazil?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Maybe these stories can explain the reason why people report Mineoro is not finding treasures in Europe and other places where we hear these stories. If a treasure is moved after first detecting it, then recovery will be impossible regardless of whether it was detected by a conventional detector or LRL. Some people will conclude that there never was a treasure at all, only a false signal. But others will conclude the treasure was moved by Jinns, or other strange creatures like leprechauns. Of course, if these strange creatures don't exist in South America, then there will be no treasures lost because they were moved during the attempt to recover them.
There are none of these stories from Paraguay and Brazil?

Best wishes,
J_P

I guess there is the Jinn that bring them the treasure!

These are particular places... and LRLs there heve special powers...

Kind regards,
Max

[1843]

It began with a sever headache that suddenly occurred to me and afterward
My ankle began to feeling burning ended to sever pain. It was entirely unnatural and unprecedented weird event for me along my life by this time.
So my partners sent down the cable of lift and lifted me up. Headache lasted less than 2 days but ankle pain about 3 months which I couldn’t walk appropriately or even sit.
The interesting thing in my ankle was I never had any sign of inflammatory reactions, nothing.

The Guru told this point that; for first alarm, their very slight hit is on ankle and head of human. They do some thing like tickling with a finger. If they strike a little tough will definitely kill human and these creatures themselves avoid of human killing as much as possible, especially when they know human is really ignorant of existence of them at the place.
Anyway that’s a strange subject that we can’t understand or realize their behaviors. You see, if human had their abilities and powers what would do with them? Would definitely exploited of power (what is doing every day against animals, plants and…) , but jinns are very patient, reasonable with high control on their actions and nerve. They respect and observe their own rules strictly and never break their rules. Really strange.

Hi dear J_Player.
some parts of your comments are right, but jinns are living all around the world without many of human limitations;
they don't need vehicle to transport, they move very fast and can go to other points of world easily of course have their own rules, tribes, boss and very careful in observing their rules and boss.
e.g. one of their rules is: "never annoy or molest human unless they make problem for you and aggress."
one of the very rare places human can make problem that is unpleasant for them is treasure hunting( of course in very professional level at great depths or sometimes at medium depths) this will provoke them to react; they can easily affect on human mind (chakrah) to discourage us this is first step.
next step is a little hit like what did with me; make very sever headache and a very sever pain on my ankle, which I couldn't sit for 2 months, if human proceeds, will make strange voices like loud crying or screaming to make you give up, and if again persist, will hurt seriously; as they are incredibly powerful will kill immediately.

I wrote this previously here;
one friend told me he has seen burnt body like a charcoal at bottom of a dug well on a treasure point. Although in some cases they move treasure very fast to another point.
of course there are very unknown aspects of these strange creatures which very rare humans know about like our Guru and when question them, try to not reveal secrets of jinns world.
This is now somewhat clear for me that some humans who are very rare, have powers to hire or employ(something like this) some especial jinns to use them against guards of treasures.
what I've got by this time is that guards were especial selected jinns more powerful than others of their races. so can conclude in ancient eras people had access to a weird science to employ such jinns for their treasures and mostly reigns in Middle east countries, India had this weird science though in some other countries like Turkey ,Greek ,… was somehow so.[ Okantex and Geo know better]. as unlike human, jinns live for thousands years, OK, you can guess; it has been the best way for keep the treasure that lasted by this time.

one thing our Guru told us was that jinns like gold much more than human especially when it becomes ancient they love it more than their life. so after death of owner they never leave it and consider themselves as owner of treasure. so makes no difference for them that trespasser to their den be a man or woman, will react the same.
Our Guru said for this reason there is only one way; to persuade them to leave it for us which mostly don’t accept or fight to scare away or kill them cos treasure essentially belonged and belongs to human kind not jinns and how much of lives had taken and bloods shed to gather such treasures it is not their share and never belongs them. Humans used them to guard for some while not everlasting, jinns for their great interests to gold can’t leave, so that only way remains is push them out with using force and it’s not an ordinary war.
oh, there are much more things to tell about which is out of patience and unable to tell.........

Oh, yes, good question, the question that had made my mind busy for a while.
answer: I'm the manager and head of my team/partners I set all things, tools, appointments, planning and so on to program. and in work I'm the most active member, at that time I was personally working with electrical Hammer at 8m depth. as we were told at first they target and alarm the head of team to suspend their work. when head is dissuaded then work will be stopped. if all persist on continuing, all will be affected one by one.

I told, they're strange, and any suggested question comes from this strangeness. they have their own rules and do it very neatly.

Michael,

If you like others to believe your lies, either tell better lies or find some stupid people... The members of this forum are educated, they won't believe your lies!
BTW do you get money from somewhere instead of the lies you tell?

[Fred]

I don´t think Michael is lying, he´s exposing his experience.
I respect that and calling him liar doesn´seems right to me.
You have the right to believe or not.Just like in religions, anyone have the right to believe what he wants-independently if it´s true or not.

[Esteban]

Maybe these stories can explain the reason why people report Mineoro is not finding treasures in Europe and other places where we hear these stories. If a treasure is moved after first detecting it, then recovery will be impossible regardless of whether it was detected by a conventional detector or LRL. Some people will conclude that there never was a treasure at all, only a false signal. But others will conclude the treasure was moved by Jinns, or other strange creatures like leprechauns. Of course, if these strange creatures don't exist in South America, then there will be no treasures lost because they were moved during the attempt to recover them.
There are none of these stories from Paraguay and Brazil?

Best wishes,
J_P

Sounds as a joke! Here is worst! Spirits keep the treasures!

[J_Player]

Sounds as a joke! Here is worst! Spirits keep the treasures!

Hi Esteban,
No Jinns in Paraguay or Brazil? But other spirits keep the treasures? Hmmmm....
Is this the reason why you usually find coins and other small treasures?
Have the spirits taken all the large gold statues to keep for themselves?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
No Jinns in Paraguay or Brazil? But other spirits keep the treasures? Hmmmm....
Is this the reason why you usually find coins and other small treasures?
Have the spirits taken all the large gold statues to keep for themselves?

Best wishes,
J_P

Those are stories of the people when you go for to search for treasure. I never experiment it... So, aren't mine stories...

[rajesh]

treasure

Those are stories of the people when you go for to search for treasure. I never experiment it... So, aren't mine stories...

hi esteban please read this........ story this is near from my home......rajesh

During the ruling period of Akbar, he learned about the legends of Jwalamukhi. In a fit of anger, he tried to douse the flames with a stream of water. The great power of the Goddess, still kept the flames burning. Realizing the power of Jwala Devi, Akbar came with his army to this temple. He brought a Gold umbrella (Chatra) for the Goddess, but on offering, the umbrella turned into an unknown metal suggesting that the Goddess didn't accept his offering.

http://www.culturalindia.net/indian-temples/jwala-devi-temple.html

[1843]

I don´t think Michael is lying, he´s exposing his experience.
I respect that and calling him liar doesn´seems right to me.
You have the right to believe or not.Just like in religions, anyone have the right to believe what he wants-independently if it´s true or not.

Jinn is his belief...(I agree) But how about the funny stories he has told?