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But will you be happy if it does the job zero times?Originally posted by g-sani View PostMind you that if an LRL can do the job even sometimes and not always this is good enough for me and I will be happy.
Remember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.
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A Blind Hog Will Sometimes Find an Acorn....Originally posted by g-sani View Post...Mind you that if an LRL can do the job even sometimes and not always this is good enough for me and I will be happy.
So if you aren't going to challenge the Examiner in a full blown DB test, and you are satisfied with a "once in awhile find", then no need to waste your money on an Examiner. A piece of bent wire (L-shaped), your natural intuition, research, basic logic and best-guessing will come up "looking" successful "sometimes".

The Wallet-Miner's CreedWhy bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?
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Ozzy, g-sani RUBBED comon sense in your face.Originally posted by Qiaozhi View PostBut will you be happy if it does the job zero times?
Remember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.
Maybe this time you think of it useable to your sick brains?
Gotta go from this circus now, had enough fun for today.
"Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"
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Originally posted by hung View PostOzzy, g-sani RUBBED comon sense in your face.
Maybe this time you think of it useable to your sick brains?
Gotta go from this circus now, had enough fun for today.
The circus clown has left the building!

As I said before ... and I repeat ->
If there was any common-sense involved, then these do-nothing devices would not be on the market being promoted by someone who should know better.Originally posted by Qiaozhi View PostRemember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.
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If this is what you call common sense, then no wonder every do-nothing junk will work with you.Originally posted by hung View PostOzzy, g-sani RUBBED comon sense in your face.
Exactly like a particular multimeter that sometime reads some values, sometimes it don´t ...know what i mean?
Like thesus said, a good high-tech piece of equipment for you would be Dr Stick...
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No I will not be happy Qiaozhi if this is the case.Probably I will give up to it.Originally posted by Qiaozhi View PostBut will you be happy if it does the job zero times?
Remember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.
I will test it out my own way first and many times in different weather conditions.
If I justify that in a place that the material in search was in present more than three or four times(reasonable volume) and the LRL didn't detect it then I will start thinking skeptical as well.
Apart from all this I believe I have another advantage myself when testing an LRL and this is perhaps my strong point.
This is testing them in a place that I know that a real treasure exists and when I am saying that I am talking about knowing the exact place.
How can that be?
Well may be I am in the lucky position of having documents of where some treasure are hidden or in the unlucky position that these treasures are imposible to be picked up.Everybody see it in his own way and may be you are right if you do not believe me when I am saying that.Mind you that I have confirmed these places whith my MFD or my pulse detector where possible.
My self I use these places as a test field and up to now the only LRL that passed all tests so far is the one I am using and it is an MFD as I said before.I have to admit that in those places the generator was always used less than 150 meters away from the known spot.But as I said It was times we got targets from a very long distance like 500mts for a 30*40cms target.
Gold gun AL707 for example when checking it in three different locations just gave the target in one of them and only once after three visits in the same place.But then there was no relative transmition of VLF stations so the result was expected in some way.
Thats why I say that we must give a chance to everything and always.
As Carl said(and I think J_P also agreed) you have to see something whith your own eyes first and then listen to others.
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A piece of bent wire might do exactly the same job for me but it is not the same Theseus.Originally posted by Theseus View PostA Blind Hog Will Sometimes Find an Acorn....
So if you aren't going to challenge the Examiner in a full blown DB test, and you are satisfied with a "once in awhile find", then no need to waste your money on an Examiner. A piece of bent wire (L-shaped), your natural intuition, research, basic logic and best-guessing will come up "looking" successful "sometimes".
If examiner works as many claim then it will be much less fatigue on the way when searching places.You can not dowse all day long my friend.It will take you down no matter who you are.Exaclty the same applies when you do it everyday for a long time.
But checking first whith something like an examiner will be of a great help as a start in a possible treasure to be place.Treasure Hunting I hope you agree that needs strategy as well.
Also there are other things in this that most people don't understand.
Think for example that some people use a mercedes to go from a place A to B when they could also go there on foot and sometimes spending the same time.
Do you want to know why?
There is no why my friend because although the result looks the same it is not, because the whole thing is incomparable from its very beggining.
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Hi g-sani,
The fact that you think you know where a treasure is buried could be a major disadvantage, particularly if you use any device with a swinging handle. The RangerTell Scaminer is just a dowsing rod dressed up with some do-nothing electronics and a cheap calculator. Because of the ideomotor effect you will get the result that you expect.
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Hi Qiaozhi,Originally posted by Qiaozhi View PostHi g-sani,
The fact that you think you know where a treasure is buried could be a major disadvantage, particularly if you use any device with a swinging handle. The RangerTell Scaminer is just a dowsing rod dressed up with some do-nothing electronics and a cheap calculator. Because of the ideomotor effect you will get the result that you expect.
You see how dificult it is for somebody to say that he knows a couple of places where treasure is.I was thinking to put it down in my post and may be I was wrong doing it.
Straight away people fantasize that "I think" that I know where treasure is although I explained the situation.
I will explain again in case I was misunderstood.
I first went to those places having maps whith some reading on them explaining where the treasure was hidden and yes they were giving the exact spot one of them in pain Greek.
Then I got my LORENZ X3 went there again and crosschecked two of the places.Then some other time I went there to check them whith my freq.generator to see what it does.Bingo I got them again not by using rods but by having readings on the meter of my LRL.Well the third one I could not check it whith my X3 because it is inside a church.
Do you think that it was by chance to have readings in the same places(spots)? Do you think that Lorenz X3 gives faulse readings for targets the size of a box? Believe me it doesn't and anybody using it can assure you about that.
I agree that if you know the place of a target then most of the people might detect it whith rods but sorry this says nothing to me as well since your skeptical mind will be always keep saying that this is because of the ideomotor efect so nothing can be proved.
Electroscope 901 gave us a good target once and it was people again saying it was lucky and all this rubish.Many years passed and we had a few more finds and some of them were of a good value.
Is it bacause we are lucky and you are not?
If this is the case I feel sory for you my friend.
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Hi G-sani,
I think there is a big misunderstanding here : the difference is between if these LRL works on a technical point of view, and on the other side on the human point of view.
You assure us it works on the human side, and i believe you.
But i am still waiting to see a technical proof that it really works.
As Qiaozhi said, as long as you know where the target is ,and unless you wrote every test you made in everyplace, results cannot be taken in account.
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At least Fred understood what I was saying.Originally posted by Fred View PostHi G-sani,
I think there is a big misunderstanding here : the difference is between if these LRL works on a technical point of view, and on the other side on the human point of view.
You assure us it works on the human side, and i believe you.
But i am still waiting to see a technical proof that it really works.
As Qiaozhi said, as long as you know where the target is ,and unless you wrote every test you made in everyplace, results cannot be taken in account.
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