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  • Another Study to confirm LRL Detection of Buried Metals

    In 1971 I was offered and accepted the research papers of J.Cecil Maby. Here is an outline of some research which seems to have a direct bearing on Rota's work. The bulk of the work was done mostly between the first and the early part of the second world war. Neither Maby of Franklin knew anything of Louis Rota, which is not surprising bearing in mind the secrecy with which Rota surrounded his research between the wars. Maby and Franklin, like Rota, found all metals, in fact, all elements emit beams which radiate in the horizontal plane, in specific directions and even electromagnetic frequencies also emit in specific horizontal directions! This throws light on some of Rota’s claims.
    Franklin and Maby found that these directional beams rotate every 24 hour through 360 degrees. Maby found that if a magnet is placed under/over the element under test then the angle remains fixed. The N or S poles rotate the direction of the whole set by 180 degrees. The earth’s vertical magnetic field is not quite strong enough to fix the direction, so a mixture of fixed and static beams is produced if a magnet is not present. Here is Maby’s graph of what he calls the "fundamental ray" angle versus atomic weight/number:-
    Directional emissions of Elements versus beam angle
    (Note the “Bomb Disposal Enquiry” At this stage they were employed by the British Government to explore the possibility of using their methods to find unexploded bombs. See Passive “Radar”… below)
    Electromagnetic Frequencies also have directions
    Maby and Franklin used an ionisation counter to verify what had been found with a dowsing rod, in order to eliminated “wishful thinking” when subjective methods were used, although they frequently used the ionization counter alone. The ionization counter being statistical was slow while the dowsing rod was quick in the hands of a skilled operator. As is seen in Rota’s medical applications, the human body contains the Universal Currents in an active state so it would not be surprising to find the human body sensitive to the same class of universal currents in the environment.
    Background
    In the late 1920's early 1930's T. Bedford Franklin found that the presence of deeply buried ore bodies produced a disturbance in the field strength of an early experimental medium wave broadcast station recently established in the UK at Daventry. He found that dispite the scientific view that such signals could not penetrate several hundred feet underground to the ore body, the field induced in the ore body was detectable on the earth's surface and interfered with the directly received signal from the radio station causing a variation in phase and amplitude which was detectable with a suitable radio receiver and frame antenna. He set up a successful business finding ore lodes for mining companies being able to detect the depth and size of the lode with reasonable accuracy. The surface field patterns were very similar to diffraction patterns familiar in optics, so it was assumed that the same process was at work with radio wave patterns detected on the earth's surface. Around the early 1930's, J. Cecil Maby found he could successfully dowse using a forked rod and when he later heard about Franklin's work and met Franklin, he tried dowsing a site which Franklin had previously tested with his frame antenna and radio apparatus. Maby was amazed to find that he could detect with the dowsing rod similar field patterns to those which Franklin had found instrumentally. Franklin was able to stimulate an ore body in dry rock at considerable depth using a 30 metre radio transmitter dispite the popular view that such frequencies could not penetrate that deep. Maby found that an iron rod stuck in the ground would radiate beams almost N,E,S,W without any external excitation and they tried various radio receivers to detect these beams instrumentally finally using a super-regenerative receiver. Franklin had a theory that very deep ore bodies were being shock excited by penetrating cosmic rays because the depth was frequently too great for radio waves to penetrate from the surface. This idea was generalised into the theory that a dowser was picking up radio signals originating from cosmic ray shock excitation of a buried object or ore body etc. Instrumental detection was very difficult although the signal was clear enough to a dowser.
    Penetrating Radiation
    Maby found that magnets emit a penetrating dowsing radiation that could penetrate lead screens. This resulted in tests with ionisation counters. A geiger counter showed nothing, but a neon ionisation counter did detect the radiation. They noticed that heavy objects in motion were surrounded by concentric zones or shells detectable by a neon ionisation counter of the Wynn-Williams type. They also found that aircraft could be detected a considerable distance away with a modified version of the counter.
    A Passive "Radar" or Aircraft Detector
    In about 1939 before the outbreak or the war they contacted the British Government about their aircraft detector which the called the "Fraby detector". Professor Andrade, in charge of finding new inventions to help the war effort, sent two scientists to investigate and after several months of tests they produced a favourable report. Development continued until suddenly the Government lost interest. After the war, this seemed to coincide with development of centimetric radar.
    Fields Around Objects
    Franklin independently checked Maby's findings presumably using his own dowser but he also used his own ionisation counter. They found that element such as iron copper tin etc all have a characteristic wavelength in centimetres which Franklin working on an analogue with x ray diffraction found was 2k√(atomic weight x atomic number) The value of k was about 1. This field was detectable with the ionisation counter as well as by dowsing means.
    The extraordinary effect on radioactive bodies
    When Maby was trying a geiger counter he found that it did not respond to the dowsing field unless a radio active source was put in front of it. He used a pad containing a small amount of Radium Bromide. He was amazed to find that moving the geiger counter plus radioactive pad through the dowsing field caused a increased discharge when entering the dowsing field and a reduction in discharge when leaving it, so the response of the geiger counter plus pad depended on the rate of change of the dowsing field. Because the geiger counter was unresponsive on its own he checked the radiation output from the radioactive pad alone using a spinthariscope which is simply a fluorescent screen and magnifying glass to observe the scintillations caused by radioactive particles discharged from the radium bromide. He found that the dowsing field did indeed increase the scintillations when entering the field and decreased them when leaving it. (Because this is a rate of change effect the half life remains unchanged). If we relate Franklin Maby's dowsing field to the universal current, this supports Rota's statement regarding the fundemental nature of the universal current and its connection to the cohesive forces that hold matter together.

    Maby and Franklin published most of this work up to 1939 and a compilation in 1966
    1)J.C Maby,T. Bedford Franklin; The Physics of the Divinig Rod, published by Bell 1939
    2)J.C Maby; Physical Prinscipals of Radiesthesia 1966
    3) T. Bedford Franklin; Radiations, British Society of Dowsers 1949
    4) J.C. Maby: Research Papers
    Astrodetect

  • #2
    Only boys which try to sell nonsense to British governments. Happilly with no succes.
    Global capital is ruining your life?
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    • #3
      And, of course, a simple radio can locate buried metal, even only as receiver, but in radar mode can be detected at more distance and depth. Here "radar mode" doesn't mean radar frequency, mean transmission and reception of RF. Also you can use only transmitter in wich you inserted modulation, this modulation creates in a receiver (wich acts no as detector, just for register changes in TX) a kind of phase shift. The buried metal changes the state of phase shift and voilà! The same with IR beam and radio as monitor for register change in phase shift. "Radar mode" is very old:
      Attached Files

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      • #4
        No problem to find large chest of gold by this refelctive method - if you know where a large chest of gold is burried.

        Otherwise, the method is practically useless.
        Global capital is ruining your life?
        You have right to self-defence!

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        • #5
          Astrodetect, thanks for the info.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WM6 View Post
            No problem to find large chest of gold by this refelctive method - if you know where a large chest of gold is burried.

            Otherwise, the method is practically useless.
            Uhm... well... no...

            The method is not useless... just he don't know anything of it...

            So it's like to ask a donkey to explain you trigonometry, it's unlike he can show you any useful example.

            Someone his relative maybe know... I'm guessing.

            But the method is not "useless" cause I know of some devices that use it and actually works.

            You can see here an example of one claimed working (I did not test it):



            These devices can work as "just receivers" or use a local "transmitter". Usually they works in the 20-200Khz range.

            I saw another stuff , similar but not this one, handmade and it works... but , sure, not with a coin stuff...

            If we talk of long metallic things buried at reasonable depth or big masses you can detect... otherwise not.
            These are useful also for locating voids and other stuff... e.g. old buried roads... made of e.g. stones etc but NOT small things... like rings, coins and stuff like that, as he said of his PD !

            Kind regards,
            Max

            "Kill for gain or shoot to maim...
            But we dont need a reason
            "

            someone said...

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            • #7
              Max, agree, but Iam not speaking about devices as EMFAD based on far away LW transmiters which signal evenly cover the terrain. Here is transmiter by rule far away and receiver close to the target. At the same time we need antena with very directive characteristic.

              I am speaking about configuration from picture in which strong near transmitter signal suppres weak and by soil dumped reflective signal on diferent way.

              In this case transmitter are to close and at the same time receiver too far from small target. So it is practically unusable. Transmitter have to be reasonably far away and receiver close to the target. Can only be usable if one know where the target is burried.
              Attached Files
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              You have right to self-defence!

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              • #8
                W.I.S. Dell
                "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
                  W.I.S. Dell
                  Please practice what you preach.

                  "WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK."

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                  • #10
                    Very interesting post Astrodetect.
                    Myself used to have a transmitter and a receiver to go on target.
                    Don't ask me about operating frequencies because all I know was that it was RF doing the job.
                    After transmitting the signal for about 15mins we were able to go on target using a portable receiver.
                    This was the only LRL that we used whith success.We found many things burried in a short period of time while using the receiver.
                    This method works for sure no matter of what anybody says and it is not difficult to use.Maybe is difficult for an electronics man to build and I beleive it is.

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                    • #11
                      Louis Turenne was one of the first to plot out the fundamental ray angles in 1935. He put it on a circular format, used a weak solution of radium bromide in the center and would place a sample on there. Then he used a pendulum to find the rays much like an interferometer works. I've never been able to find any of his work other than what I read by Christopher Hills book "Supersensonics". "Two American physicists, Davisson and Germer, found that electrons striking a crystal were reflected from it only in certain directions...It was found that the number of electrons increases considerably at certain angles..."

                      I found another page for you.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mike(Mont)[COLOR=#000000
                        ...I found another page for you.
                        http://wikirota.org/en/Main_Page
                        Hmmm....
                        Louis Rota... another experimenter who did his work in secret. It seems nobody knows exactly what his experiments did or how to reproduce them to give the same results as Rota is alleged to have obtained. When I make a Google search, I only find the Wikirota page that has any information on him at all, and most of the information says "we can't figure out what he did exactly, but we still think he was a great scientist". It seems all they really know about Rota is he performed some seemingly magic experiments decades ago, and he developed his own theories about buried metals and physics. So why can't we find pages of details all over the internet to explain how great this scientist was?

                        Yup, it looks like another secret experimenter's name has fallen into oblivion.

                        Best wishes,
                        J_P

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                        • #13
                          There's some good links on that page.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
                            Louis Turenne was one of the first to plot out the fundamental ray angles in 1935. He put it on a circular format, used a weak solution of radium bromide in the center and would place a sample on there.

                            Then he used a pendulum to find the rays.........
                            Sorry, Mike, but using one mind-controlled gadget (pendulum) to validate fundamental rays, which are another figment of the imagination, is hardly a reference with a shred of believability. Probably why it can only be found in old out-dated esoteric publications and has been put to rest decades ago.


                            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by g-sani View Post
                              Very interesting post Astrodetect.
                              Myself used to have a transmitter and a receiver to go on target.
                              Don't ask me about operating frequencies because all I know was that it was RF doing the job.
                              After transmitting the signal for about 15mins we were able to go on target using a portable receiver.
                              This was the only LRL that we used whith success.We found many things burried in a short period of time while using the receiver.
                              This method works for sure no matter of what anybody says and it is not difficult to use.Maybe is difficult for an electronics man to build and I beleive it is.
                              Thanks for your story, this is very nice out of body experience. Your are still on astral projection for beginners.

                              Explanation of pictured nonworking idea is very simple: frequencies then used do not allow to build absolutely directive antenna as pictured. To build such antenna is possible only on frequencies in GHz spectrum. On LF to VLF frequencies produced from Tx in vicinity there are mess of different directive, reflective, harmonics and interferences of frequencies which make such devices practically unusable (even basically idea is correct). So your "receiver to go Non target." It is hard to build receiver in LF and VLF spectrum that is not at the same time interference detector. But this not mean that it is usable to detect gold part in soil.

                              The path from theory to useful practice is very long, even longer is the road from dream to useful practice.
                              Global capital is ruining your life?
                              You have right to self-defence!

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