Psychical Physics by Tromp

[J_Player]

You should of warned me to how deep the B.S. was on the linked site so I could of at least put on my Rubber Boots! I HATE that stuff.

Yep you nailed it re: Dr. Hills and his sicko widow and her perverted video.
I was raised Christian Science so I've had just enough mind science crap.

Randy

Dang, maybe yer right,
This guy is selling a lot of junk. It says at the top of his links page:

"This website is dedicated to water research and the effects of frequencies and geometry on water and other liquids.
This area of research is sometimes referred to as Cymatics, and Vibro Acoustic Technology."

His first product listed is an "Advanced bio-photon analyzer" that comes with a "Vortex imprinter plate SP3" included for only $1795.

Then there's a lot more homeopathic gadgets to cure or restore your body's biorhythms. He even sells an attachment for a water bottle that has magnets on it called a water vortex magnetizer, which he claims works by magnetohydrodynamics. The water that passes through an orifice with magnets is called "structured energy water". So you pour water from a 1-liter bottle through this orifice with magnets on it, and the water forms a whirlpool as it passes through the opening. I guess that's magnetohydrodynamics creating "structured energy water", right? He claims: "In theory, the Water Vortex Magnetizer transfers its own natural vibrational imprint onto any water, including tap water. This means that any imprints from chemicals or toxins in the water may be erased, and the new natural pattern of vortex magnetic implosion energies are applied." Hmmm... does this mean it is ok to drink toxic waste water that you pour through it?

I won't even go on about the peizo-sparker that he sells for $129 to stop aches and pains, on account of most people are smart enough to buy a $2 cigarette lighter and use the peizo spark generator from inside it if they think it will relieve aches and pains.

Funny how I haven't seen any of these gadgets in a doctor's office.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

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I won't even go on about the peizo-sparker that he sells for $129 to stop aches and pains, on account of most people are smart enough to buy a $2 cigarette lighter and use the peizo spark generator from inside it if they think it will relieve aches and pains.

Funny how I haven't seen any of these gadgets in a doctor's office.

Best wishes,
J_P

No doubt he would be pushing Radionics Machines too, except they were outlawed from American medicine years ago by the FDA and AMA.

Only the extremely gullible and/or those interested in the occult (and other things that go bump in the night) would be taken in by the Hills contraptions and writings.

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't know what to say. Hills has given me more insight than all the other dowsing books I have read combined. I realize (and Hills admits) many of his comcepts could seem unbelievable if you haven't experienced dowsing, but I can only say I think you guys really missed it. That book is a masterpiece. It's like you are searching for excuses. I really feel sorry for you that you can't enjoy what he has to offer. I certainly don't claim to be a genius, although I have been told by a president of a university that some of my test scores reflect it. I had to read that book a dozen times before some of it started to make sense, and I still don't have it all--and I know how to locate. A huge amount of that book is inbetween the lines. I just have to believe he writes way over most people's head, yet every word, every concept is exact and precise. You guys lose on this one.

[J_Player]

I don't know what to say. Hills has given me more insight than all the other dowsing books I have read combined. I realize (and Hills admits) many of his comcepts could seem unbelievable if you haven't experienced dowsing, but I can only say I think you guys really missed it. That book is a masterpiece. It's like you are searching for excuses. I really feel sorry for you that you can't enjoy what he has to offer. I certainly don't claim to be a genius, although I have been told by a president of a university that some of my test scores reflect it. I had to read that book a dozen times before some of it started to make sense, and I still don't have it all--and I know how to locate. A huge amount of that book is inbetween the lines. I just have to believe he writes way over most people's head, yet every word, every concept is exact and precise. You guys lose on this one.

Well that explains it. No wonder I can't enjoy what he has to offer. I missed the parts that were written between the lines.
I guess it all goes back to the underlying problem of low intelligence. Certainly no university president ever told me I am a genius.

If I go back and read all the sections between the lines that I just plain didn't read, will that solve the problem of not enjoying this masterpiece?

Best wishes,
J_P

[ivconic]

Nobody claims skeptics aren't real, either. Real idiots.

I wish someone would have told me that book is so nerdy, it's nauseating in places. I really wish I hadn't even read it.

Eh!? You are actually saying sceptics are idiots?
Not constructive. As sceptic i feel offended. You should explain your attitude on this...

[Theseus]

I don't know what to say. Hills has given me more insight than all the other dowsing books I have read combined. I realize (and Hills admits) many of his comcepts could seem unbelievable if you haven't experienced dowsing, but I can only say I think you guys really missed it. That book is a masterpiece. It's like you are searching for excuses. I really feel sorry for you that you can't enjoy what he has to offer. I certainly don't claim to be a genius, although I have been told by a president of a university that some of my test scores reflect it. I had to read that book a dozen times before some of it started to make sense, and I still don't have it all--and I know how to locate. A huge amount of that book is inbetween the lines. I just have to believe he writes way over most people's head, yet every word, every concept is exact and precise. You guys lose on this one.

...and I feel sorry for you, for being taken in by yet another charlatan. You seem to be the poster boy here for letting scam artists take advantage of you and rob you of many thousands of dollars. What an absolute tragedy.

You say; "...you know how to locate" ??? What does that mean? That you can get a bent wire to respond to your internally-generated ideomotor response? I can't think of a single individual who can't accomplish the same feat. Like every other human being who tries dowsing... it works great for you as long as you know where the target is, or have a good idea. As Carl has said; Dowsing is nothing more than an indicator of intuition, best guessing and logical deduction. With or without the addition of do-nothing electronic black boxes - that's all it is. And, when dealing with totally unknown targets, it will always be subject to a great many errors.

The truth is; if you really knew how to locate, and could actually find treasure with all your expensive dowsing contraptions and all the knowledge you have gleaned from the masterpiece(?) Supersensonics, you wouldn't even be here. Instead, you'd be enjoying the fruits of all your found treasures, living the good life. Hanging around here taking part in lost-cause word battles would be the last thing you'd consider doing.

Was the university president who commented on your test scores an employee of the University of The Trees, founded by the charlatan C. Hills?

And what about the other test scores; ...that didn't indicate you were anything close to being a genius?

[Mike(Mont)]

I am extremely sensitive to anyone trying to push any religion on me. I did not sense that in the Supersensonics book. And I don't feel it has anything much "new age" in it. Yes, Hills discusses some teachings of yoga that relate to dowsing because yoga has known about it for thousands of years. He shows how the human body can become an antenna. Even their "scientific method" was more demanding than what is used today.

[Mike(Mont)]

I think it is disgusting the way Hills is treated around here. He dedicated a large part of his life to helping others. He donated millions of dollars to charities. And you wonder why I say skepticism is a psychological disorder.

[WM6]

He donated millions of dollars to charities.

And how do they earn all those millions? By dowsing?

Charity is only a social hypocrisy. By charity unjust and rich people feel that they have washed their dirty hands and sinful soul.