Last treasure hunting....

[J_Player]

Hi Robert, Hi Funfiner.
Thank you for your advices. I don't live at a dangerous place, but the place that i am hunting is very far from my place. I believe that this mine was there from "mistake".
Anyway, i must take safeguards because who knows???? I am looking for a big treasure, so i must not dig to any signal that indicates a small object. I thank you for your interesting and your articles, since at begining i did not took it very seriously.

Regards

Hi Geo,
For safeguards, you can check the treasure with the metal detector when you are digging. If you see there is iron buried, then you can be careful and dig a large hole from the sides. If no iron, then you will know it is not an antique mine or other ordnance from wars.

I remember a mortar shell exploding when someone dug it up 50 years after it was fired into a test range. This is a range where the military tests mortars, bombs, hand-held rocket launchers, and incindiary bullets. many of the bombs and shells that do not explode are buried under the ground where they are not easy to see for the clean up crews. The charge from this mortar shell was still strong, but the buried shells at this range were rusted after being buried for decades. They did not explode during the initial firing, because maybe a defective detonator in the head. But when this mortar shell was hit with the shovel blade enough times, it finally exploded. After this incident, a warning was issued by the military to stay away from their test ranges, and they put extra armed guards to keep people out of the test range.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi J_P.
Thanks .
Next time (maybe next week) i will take with me my Sovereign for better discrimination between ferrous and no ferrous objects. The only problem is that i must carry a lot of machines with me. TDI with 1x1 coil and with 12 ", Minelab, Ferrite LRL, Alonso's PD, Electrostatic LRL, Generator, rods ..... But i think that the Minelab must be the first choise for a good discrimination.

Regards

[Morgan]

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Hi J_P.
Thanks .
Next time (maybe next week) i will take with me my Sovereign for better discrimination between ferrous and no ferrous objects. The only problem is that i must carry a lot of machines with me. TDI with 1x1 coil and with 12 ", Minelab, Ferrite LRL, Alonso's PD, Electrostatic LRL, Generator, rods ..... But i think that the Minelab must be the first choise for a good discrimination.

Regards

Yes,the minelab sovereign as good discrimination but iron with round shape is a problem for all metal detectors...
Why you not use the magnetometer before dig the target,this will tell you if the buried metal is ferrous.

[Geo]

Yes,the minelab sovereign as good discrimination but iron with round shape is a problem for all metal detectors...
Why you not use the magnetometer before dig the target,this will tell you if the buried metal is ferrous.

My gradiometer is very sensitive so if there are other ferrous objects near it, it will beep at every turn....

[Funfinder]

Thanks for your friendly answer, Geo.

I am shure you will handle probably dangerous situations/signals with the needed care.

But Morgan is right - (near) round shaped iron or steel objects can have a detection value around "gold" (my cannonballs as example) and besides:

Not all kind of this stuff is made out of iron or steel but from brass, copper, lead etc.

Good luck in finding the right "treasure" .

[Geo]

Hi Funfinder.
I went again for the treasure hunting but again without results. The goods are that i finished the hunting without any bad from mines. The only "good" object that we found was a copper ashtray. I will post some photos next days. Again there was good results and bad results from LRLs. I will comment it later

Regards

[Geo]

Here are some photos from the detectors that i used at this treasure hunting.

[Geo]

My LRLs did not gave me any signal maybe because before 2..3 days it had rain. Except the ferrite LRL that gave me a very strong signal from 300m far but nothing near the "treasure". Near the treasure i had a lot of breaking sounds at my ferrite detector. It gave me the idea that there was a bad connection inside the detector but when i went more far it worked ok. I don't know why.

Regards

[Morgan]

TREASURE

My LRLs did not gave me any signal maybe because before 2..3 days it had rain. Except the ferrite LRL that gave me a very strong signal from 300m far but nothing near the "treasure". Near the treasure i had a lot of breaking sounds at my ferrite detector. It gave me the idea that there was a bad connection inside the detector but when i went more far it worked ok. I don't know why.

Regards

Hello Geo

I need to remember you about the silver hoard i found with my PD clone. It detect the spot almost 20 m distance and near the silver coins the PD start OVERLOAD,possible becouse of the huge electromagnetic field.
Maybe you was near some TREASURE ?
You should triangulate N,S,E,W and see where is the place and finaly use conventional but powerful MD´s for pinpoint.

[detectoman]

geo may be need block of distant waves deflection your ferrite whit aluminium blind to grounded, or parabolic in focus, try whit low power, or square 9 little bateries
puede probar con menos voltaje, o aisle la ferrita y aterricela, aleje la bateria de la bocina, o ponga otra configuracion de bobina en otra baja armonica

[detectoman]

or may be you is on other circundant treasure, or paralell to lines of electric earth propagation, or veins of mineral, jajaja

[Geo]

Hello Geo

I need to remember you about the silver hoard i found with my PD clone. It detect the spot almost 20 m distance and near the silver coins the PD start OVERLOAD,possible becouse of the huge electromagnetic field.
Maybe you was near some TREASURE ?
You should triangulate N,S,E,W and see where is the place and finaly use conventional but powerful MD´s for pinpoint.

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Hi Morgan.
I triangulated and then i went near the point of the triangulation. At this place my lrl started to don't work good. Maybe the signal to be very high, or maybe my lrl with the ferrite that had on it to was very sensitive to iron. The place was near the place that i found the mine!!
My PD did not work good even near the copper ashtray.

Regards

[Geo]

geo may be need block of distant waves deflection your ferrite whit aluminium blind to grounded, or parabolic in focus, try whit low power, or square 9 little bateries
puede probar con menos voltaje, o aisle la ferrita y aterricela, aleje la bateria de la bocina, o ponga otra configuracion de bobina en otra baja armonica

Hi Detecoman.
Detector works with +-5V so no need to work it with lower voltage.
As i wrote other time, one problem is the right ferrite.

Regards

[michael]

Hi dear friends.
hey Geo, listen to Morgan advice, it's exact what I've experienced near all our treasure locations.
Treasure is not where you think, is where your detector shouts with loud sound.
Mostly ignor weak signals, pay attention to strong signals.
If you remember well, I had mentioned what you get now with PD. you should zoom in place your PD behaves crazily.
for finding closer location to treasure, reset PD( make it silent) before entering to continues beeping. i.e. when it started alternative
beeps, stp, reset it again walk forward to start again and again reset it. walk forward.....
until get no more signal. so go back to last beeping location and search at least 20m x 20m area there with powerful MD to find the point.
I want next time see here your success news( of course if not encounter with jinn guard)

[Funfinder]

Geo wrote 5.5.2010:

Hi Funfinder.
I went again for the treasure hunting but again without results. The goods are that i finished the hunting without any bad from mines. The only "good" object that we found was a copper ashtray. I will post some photos next days. Again there was good results and bad results from LRLs. I will comment it later

Regards

Hi Geo,
I have totally overseen your answer.
Thx for the fotos - you're well equipped.
Like you, Morgan and detectoman I'm also building now my own pistol-detector - you can see here:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=112103#post112103

Can you tell me what kind of chip or FET you're using in your PDs for receiving the electrostatic field?

First you can try to tape some grounded alufoil on the back of your Pistol Detector or put the ferrite antenna in some kind of tin-can.

If it's really the ES-Field that overloads the detector so it no longer signalizes anything if you're near you can reduce the sensitivity by adding some high resistor attached to a switch between coil (antenna) and FET gate or IC input pin.

In my recent test the ferrite coil didn't work directional - the "zhzhzhzhzh" of the plasmaball had the same strenght from all directions.

Good luck!