MFD "reflections"

[fenixdigger]

It is good to have a BALANCED view on anything.

We are always testing and trying different procedures including ways to not lock certain targets. Even trying to prove some of Carl's statements. So I am open to any discovery.

As far as wish and want, If I can see it on a consistent basis, I'll believe it.

For 1 instant, what if EVERYTHING I have posted was the absolute truth? Give that some thought.

[J_Player]

It is good to have a BALANCED view on anything.

We are always testing and trying different procedures including ways to not lock certain targets. Even trying to prove some of Carl's statements. So I am open to any discovery.

As far as wish and want, If I can see it on a consistent basis, I'll believe it.

For 1 instant, what if EVERYTHING I have posted was the absolute truth? Give that some thought.

Actually, I believe that everything you posted is the absolute truth (as viewed through your eyes). I think you probably would not submit false information here.
But then, suppose other people were also present at the places you were when you made your observations.
Suppose these other hypothetical witnesses saw the same historical events that you saw, but arrived at different conclusions...

Does this mean you are a liar? I don't think so.
I think it means that the "truth" depends on the person who is interpreting what is observed.
Of course, this kind of viewpoint is not convenient for classifying things as black and white, true or false, etc. but it may be closer to reality than what is often shoved in our faces.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

This stuff does sound crazy, doesn't it???

I can't blame you guys for some of the questions, but some of them are just to start an argument.

We use common words to describe something we see or find and it doesn't make sense to anyone not there.

ie; signal line--- no such thing. It's a reaction from a source to a target. What is it really??
Who knows, it's a guess at best. It's like the coat hanger/ water line thing on a stretched out version.

A lot of stuff like this goes on in the field. we would post a lot more, but the screaming would get too loud. We do it e-mail and p/m between us. Too bad you get cut out of it, dam interesting.
Think of this;Mike and I are doing the same sort of thing and we're looking to get better at the discrimination. (just pretend ) Why would I lie to him and vice versus? Not going to do it.
Nothing to accomplish by that. He tells me something, do you think I'm asking for proof???
Why, I'm already seeing something close to what he is saying to start with.

I understand a critical point of view as I was there once, but what I cannot grasp is how
a rational person can imagine they know and understand what goes on with our crew or other people in the field. I guess that word (rational) is the key.

Mike; try raising the freq. 8% and put a heavy duty magnet on the ground 5 ft from transmitter. Is this the 5,000 you are using?

I have 3 alum. cans with probe holes in them. All have some sort of gold anodizing on them.
The freq. shift knocked them out, as we keep all trash targets we find to refine setup.

Sorry it took so long to reply here. The Magnacast has a slight frequency shift but not enough to to get 8%. The whole idea of the field around the aluminum pulsing and acting like a transmitter is probably something like what happens with the gold. I did see one article a few days ago that talked about some higher frequencies being upconverted into the IR range. So I might not be too far off with my observations.

[Geo]

Actually, I believe that everything you posted is the absolute truth (as viewed through your eyes). I think you probably would not submit false information here.
But then, suppose other people were also present at the places you were when you made your observations.
Suppose these other hypothetical witnesses saw the same historical events that you saw, but arrived at different conclusions...

Does this mean you are a liar? I don't think so.
I think it means that the "truth" depends on the person who is interpreting what is observed.
Of course, this kind of viewpoint is not convenient for classifying things as black and white, true or false, etc. but it may be closer to reality than what is often shoved in our faces.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
I agree, but you must add that the "truth" not depends on the person who only stay in his armchair and only writes....

Regards

[Mike(Mont)]

Got that one right, Geo.

You know this was supposed to be an interesting discussion on how a rain gutter can become something like a prism for EM waves. Instead I get more sociopathic skeptic sickness. I am really starting to believe every one of these SSS work for the metal detector industry. I'm sure the greedy bas@#%$ really believe "every dollar that goes to LRL's is a dollar less for the metal detectors". That in itself is a sickness and it's not even right. GREED is king.

[Geo]

Got that one right, Geo.

You know this was supposed to be an interesting discussion on how a rain gutter can become something like a prism for EM waves. Instead I get more sociopathic skeptic sickness. I am really starting to believe every one of these SSS work for the metal detector industry. I'm sure the greedy bas@#%$ really believe "every dollar that goes to LRL's is a dollar less for the metal detectors". That in itself is a sickness and it's not even right. GREED is king.

Hi Mike.
I agree. But you can enjoy with all these sceptics.
They speak for metal detectors. Why they don't say "who metal detectors"????
Does they mean as metal detector the device that can locate a coin at 20... 25 cm inside the earth, or 40.. 50 cn a jar full of coins (a small treasure)???
Can they make a double blind test to locate a coin only at 1m depth???
NO
Regards

[J_Player]

Hi Mike.
I agree. But you can enjoy with all these sceptics.
They speak for metal detectors. Why they don't say "who metal detectors"????
Does they mean as metal detector the device that can locate a coin at 20... 25 cm inside the earth, or 40.. 50 cn a jar full of coins (a small treasure)???
Can they make a double blind test to locate a coin only at 1m depth???
NO
Regards

Hi Geo,
We are waiting for you to show your best LRL find a treasure when skeptics are watching.
I am certain you only tell true stories.
But I have been told that if a skeptic watches when you search with your best LRL, the LRL will no longer work to find any treasure.

Maybe I was told the wrong information. It is not true, is it?

Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

Hi Mike.
I agree. But you can enjoy with all these sceptics.
They speak for metal detectors. Why they don't say "who metal detectors"????
Does they mean as metal detector the device that can locate a coin at 20... 25 cm inside the earth, or 40.. 50 cn a jar full of coins (a small treasure)???
Can they make a double blind test to locate a coin only at 1m depth???
NO
Regards

Over TNET, someone stated that a skeptic is a sick person who needs treatment.

I say, a skeptic is a role played by some once their interests are threatened.
How long you both Geo and Mike, will fool yourselves hanging around in here wasting your time with these bunch trying to change this?

This site belongs to a person who works for a MD manufacturer taken to court due to stealing competitor's technology. In this case, Minelab.
An obsolete technology! They can't even make original obsolete things!

Geo and Mike. You both know much more than these people regarding LRLs.
Don't waste your time here trying to talk about the obvious with them.
You know what I mean.

I wish you both some nice findings this weekend with your LRLs.

[Qiaozhi]

Don't waste your time here trying to talk about the obvious with them.

So what's your excuse?

[WM6]

Hi J_P.

I agree, but you must add that the "truth" not depends on the person who only stay in his armchair and only writes....

Regards

Hi Geo

Truth depends on a properly conducted test according of scientific criteria.

The correct test should eliminate all subjective influences of both: of the dowser as of the writer.

The writers are not afraid to participate in a scientific test, but dowsers always escape and instead of test offer quasi scientifical excuses.

[Theseus]

Got that one right, Geo.

You know this was supposed to be an interesting discussion on how a rain gutter can become something like a prism for EM waves. Instead I get more sociopathic skeptic sickness. I am really starting to believe every one of these SSS work for the metal detector industry. I'm sure the greedy bas@#%$ really believe "every dollar that goes to LRL's is a dollar less for the metal detectors". That in itself is a sickness and it's not even right. GREED is king.

Mike, do you have any idea how wrong you are and how this type of retort looks to rational thinking folks?

This, and the ravings of Hung, are very detrimental to your already weak position.

[Mike(Mont)]

A university in Spain has developed a device that converts digital photos into sound waves for blind people. Somewhere on the net is some free software that can be used with even a cellphone camera or laptop computer. Of course the best stuff is 3D and that requires better equipment. In the simple device the blind person takes a photo and they can "see" the objects, etc. You know, almost like using a metal detector or LRL.

[Mike(Mont)]

http://www.seeingwithsound.com/

I swear I have never seen this until just now. One section has a program to see sound waves.

[Geo]

Hi Geo,
We are waiting for you to show your best LRL find a treasure when skeptics are watching.
I am certain you only tell true stories.
But I have been told that if a skeptic watches when you search with your best LRL, the LRL will no longer work to find any treasure.

Maybe I was told the wrong information. It is not true, is it?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
Sure... you was told wrong information.
You can see the best LRL only on the field when you looking for treasure.
I can tell a lot of true stories but i know the confrontal of the sceptics. I remember Esteban when he would say stories with Alonso at Brazil or to USA...

Regards

[Geo]

Over TNET, someone stated that a skeptic is a sick person who needs treatment.

I say, a skeptic is a role played by some once their interests are threatened.
How long you both Geo and Mike, will fool yourselves hanging around in here wasting your time with these bunch trying to change this?

This site belongs to a person who works for a MD manufacturer taken to court due to stealing competitor's technology. In this case, Minelab.
An obsolete technology! They can't even make original obsolete things!

Geo and Mike. You both know much more than these people regarding LRLs.
Don't waste your time here trying to talk about the obvious with them.
You know what I mean.

I wish you both some nice findings this weekend with your LRLs.

Hi Hung.
I gave one eye to Tnet but i saw the same as here......
Also i read this forum here so many years that i can't let it. I know Carl, Qiaozhi... J_P... Theseus etc and i know what they will tell, so i have not problem. To tell the truth i am afraid to start again at a new forum, and WHY.

Regards