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  • Originally posted by hung
    If I have already detected a piece of copper the size of a coin from 30m, why can't Morgan do the same with a gold coin from this distance or even greater?

    It depends on how long it was buried and specially if the right conditions of weather, ionic field intensity, etc. are met.

    If you support the theory of 'It did not work for me so it does not work', fine.
    Just don't make any assumptions I think the same as you.
    Assumptions?
    What assumptions?
    I have been reading the reports that Morgan made from his field experiences with Mineoro, not assumptions.
    Morgan tells a different story than you tell. Morgan says Mineoro is not a very good locator.
    When compared to his experimental PD, the PD can find a gold medal from 2m at the same time when the Mineoro cannot.
    How can conditions of weather, ionic field intensity, etc, not be right if he can detect them with other locators, but not with the Mineoro?

    I also hear this story from Michael... He located treasures with other locators, but not with Mineoro. Are the treasures Michael located also wrong conditions of weather, ionic field intensity, etc?
    If conditions were wrong, how did he locate them with his other locators, and why did his Mineoro locators not find them?

    And why do we hear the same from Geo in Greece? He says he can locate long time buried metal with his experimental locators, but Mineoro is not working well for this purpose.

    Maybe I made an assumption. I assumed Morgan and Michael and Geo are telling the truth.
    Should I also assume you are telling the truth?
    I don't think that assumption would work.
    Then I would also have to change my mind and believe Morgan and Michael and Geo are giving false reports of what they saw.
    I don't believe they would do that.

    From everything I have seen reported about Mineoro performance, I think I will be wise to not spend money for Mineoro LRLs.
    I think If I try to find treasure with Mineoro LRLs I will not find any long range detection except for detecting static and strange RF noise.
    I think that the only place I could see Mineoro locators work as advertised is in the Mineoro demonstration areas.
    And I think if I move the Mineoro locator farther away from the demonstration area, it will stop working as advertised.
    I think I will then hear only reports of excellent performance from friends of people who work at the Mineoro factory.

    I wonder if there is some trick to make the Mineoro locators work well at the factory testing grounds.
    Why?
    Because I think if the same demonstrators from the factory come to where I hunt for millions year buried gold nuggets, they will not find them.

    I am assuming what Morgan, Michael and Geo reported is true.
    I will not assume they are liars, because I do not believe they are liars.

    Best wishes,
    J_P

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    • Originally posted by hung View Post
      If I have already detected a piece of copper the size of a coin from 30m, why can't Morgan do the same with a gold coin from this distance or even greater?

      It depends on how long it was buried and specially if the right conditions of weather, ionic field intensity, etc. are met.

      If you support the theory of 'It did not work for me so it does not work', fine.
      Just don't make any assumptions I think the same as you.
      A more likely explanation is that Hung physics apply only in the vicinity of Hung.

      HH Rudy,
      MXT, HeadHunter Wader


      Do or do not. There is no try.
      Yoda

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      • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
        Assumptions?
        What assumptions?
        I have been reading the reports that Morgan made from his field experiences with Mineoro, not assumptions.
        Morgan tells a different story than you tell. Morgan says Mineoro is not a very good locator.
        When compared to his experimental PD, the PD can find a gold medal from 2m at the same time when the Mineoro cannot.
        How can conditions of weather, ionic field intensity, etc, not be right if he can detect them with other locators, but not with the Mineoro?

        I also hear this story from Michael... He located treasures with other locators, but not with Mineoro. Are the treasures Michael located also wrong conditions of weather, ionic field intensity, etc?
        If conditions were wrong, how did he locate them with his other locators, and why did his Mineoro locators not find them?

        And why do we hear the same from Geo in Greece? He says he can locate long time buried metal with his experimental locators, but Mineoro is not working well for this purpose.

        Maybe I made an assumption. I assumed Morgan and Michael and Geo are telling the truth.
        Should I also assume you are telling the truth?
        I don't think that assumption would work.
        Then I would also have to change my mind and believe Morgan and Michael and Geo are giving false reports of what they saw.
        I don't believe they would do that.

        From everything I have seen reported about Mineoro performance, I think I will be wise to not spend money for Mineoro LRLs.
        I think If I try to find treasure with Mineoro LRLs I will not find any long range detection except for detecting static and strange RF noise.
        I think that the only place I could see Mineoro locators work as advertised is in the Mineoro demonstration areas.
        And I think if I move the Mineoro locator farther away from the demonstration area, it will stop working as advertised.
        I think I will then hear only reports of excellent performance from friends of people who work at the Mineoro factory.

        I wonder if there is some trick to make the Mineoro locators work well at the factory testing grounds.
        Why?
        Because I think if the same demonstrators from the factory come to where I hunt for millions year buried gold nuggets, they will not find them.

        I am assuming what Morgan, Michael and Geo reported is true.
        I will not assume they are liars, because I do not believe they are liars.

        Best wishes,
        J_P
        You can assume and believe in whoever or whatever you wish.

        Actually your position right now is only this. Assume and believe in something or someone.
        "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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        • Originally posted by hung
          You can assume and believe in whoever or whatever you wish.

          Actually your position right now is only this. Assume and believe in something or someone.
          Actually you are wrong.
          I also have field experience with LRLs in the locations of long time buried gold and other metals. Guess what?
          My experience does not agree with what you say.
          But Who cares if I agree with Morgan, Michael, and Geo?
          What really counts is what readers think who come to this forum looking for some chance that there is an LRL that works.

          People come here and read the stories from people who have used Mineoro LRLs.
          Most people using Mineoro LRLs say they are not good for locating treasure and one person says they are very good.
          The one who says they are very good is friends of people who work at the Mineoro factory, and lives within a reasonable driving distance to the factory... Interesting.

          Let us suppose someone reads that the Mineoro LRLs can detect a gold coin from 30 meters. Whey they continue reading the Geotech remote sensing forum, they see how people all over the world are reporting no good detection from Mineoro LRLs.
          Will they believe the Dr. hung stories of gold DNA producing antioxidation substances, stories of free energy from a vacuum, and 30 meter coin detection from Mineoro?
          Or will they believe all the people who have used Mineoro LRLs and found they are not good?

          Will they read what Morgan and Geo reported from Portugal and be convinced Mineoro LRLs are not working, or will they want to read more true Mineoro stories?



          Do you think they will be anxious to buy a Mineoro LRL after they read Carl-NCs report of how he could not detect anyting with his Mineoro LRL including the gold plate that came with the locator or his 10 oz gold bar?


          Or they may read how neronc bought a Mineoro LRL that never detected anything at all, not even the gold plate they sent with the locator, and the factory never answered his emails... http://geotech1.com/forums/showpost....&postcount=119

          Maybe if they read about how Connie said she really had a brain wash from Brazil when she bought a Mineoro LRL, they will wonder if the Mineoro LRLs only work when they are being demonstrated at the factory...


          Maybe they will read the report from vcrb who says his Mineoro LRL does not work in any weather condition on any day...


          Or could they read Michael's report of how he found no detection at all with Mineoro LRLs after one year of trying...


          Maybe they will wonder why Gibon sold his Mineoro LRL, then find the answer here...


          Maybe they will read what the Mineoro factory was publishing their explanation of how gold ions travel up from the ground to make the locator beep like Romeo and Juliet. Maybe they will read how Mineoro hid a BC548 transistor in black epoxy so nobody would know this is what they call "sensitive electronics" that detects nano, femto and atto second pulses from passionate ions crashing. Maybe they will read how Mineoro removed this false information from their website some time after criticism of their theories and accusations of BS circuitry appeared in the Geotech forums...


          Maybe they will read what Alexismex wrote about his experience with Mineoro LRLs and see his photos of what is really inside here...



          The more they read, the more they will find that people who buy the Mineoro LRLs do not find them working as they were advertised to work, and they do not work the way that Dr. hung says they work for him.
          They will see what is really inside the Mineoro LRL instead of sensitive electronics that detects nano, atto and femto second pulses from an ion detector.
          Will they decide to buy a Mineoro LRL, or will they decide they really need their money more than they need to tell stories of non-working Mineoros like the stories they are reading here?

          As I said, you are wrong again. I don't believe in these people any more than they believe in me.
          But I believe that they reported true facts about their experience with Mineoro LRLs. And I believe the posts you made contain false information.

          Best wishes,
          J_P

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          • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
            Actually you are wrong.
            I also have field experience with LRLs in the locations of long time buried gold and other metals. Guess what?
            My experience does not agree with what you say.
            But Who cares if I agree with Morgan, Michael, and Geo?
            What really counts is what readers think who come to this forum looking for some chance that there is an LRL that works.

            People come here and read the stories from people who have used Mineoro LRLs.
            Most people using Mineoro LRLs say they are not good for locating treasure and one person says they are very good.
            The one who says they are very good is friends of people who work at the Mineoro factory, and lives within a reasonable driving distance to the factory... Interesting.

            Let us suppose someone reads that the Mineoro LRLs can detect a gold coin from 30 meters. Whey they continue reading the Geotech remote sensing forum, they see how people all over the world are reporting no good detection from Mineoro LRLs.
            Will they believe the Dr. hung stories of gold DNA producing antioxidation substances, stories of free energy from a vacuum, and 30 meter coin detection from Mineoro?
            Or will they believe all the people who have used Mineoro LRLs and found they are not good?

            Will they read what Morgan and Geo reported from Portugal and be convinced Mineoro LRLs are not working, or will they want to read more true Mineoro stories?



            Do you think they will be anxious to buy a Mineoro LRL after they read Carl-NCs report of how he could not detect anyting with his Mineoro LRL including the gold plate that came with the locator or his 10 oz gold bar?


            Or they may read how neronc bought a Mineoro LRL that never detected anything at all, not even the gold plate they sent with the locator, and the factory never answered his emails... http://geotech1.com/forums/showpost....&postcount=119

            Maybe if they read about how Connie said she really had a brain wash from Brazil when she bought a Mineoro LRL, they will wonder if the Mineoro LRLs only work when they are being demonstrated at the factory...


            Maybe they will read the report from vcrb who says his Mineoro LRL does not work in any weather condition on any day...


            Or could they read Michael's report of how he found no detection at all with Mineoro LRLs after one year of trying...


            Maybe they will wonder why Gibon sold his Mineoro LRL, then find the answer here...


            Maybe they will read what the Mineoro factory was publishing their explanation of how gold ions travel up from the ground to make the locator beep like Romeo and Juliet. Maybe they will read how Mineoro hid a BC548 transistor in black epoxy so nobody would know this is what they call "sensitive electronics" that detects nano, femto and atto second pulses from passionate ions crashing. Maybe they will read how Mineoro removed this false information from their website some time after criticism of their theories and accusations of BS circuitry appeared in the Geotech forums...


            Maybe they will read what Alexismex wrote about his experience with Mineoro LRLs and see his photos of what is really inside here...



            The more they read, the more they will find that people who buy the Mineoro LRLs do not find them working as they were advertised to work, and they do not work the way that Dr. hung says they work for him.
            They will see what is really inside the Mineoro LRL instead of sensitive electronics that detects nano, atto and femto second pulses from an ion detector.
            Will they decide to buy a Mineoro LRL, or will they decide they really need their money more than they need to tell stories of non-working Mineoros like the stories they are reading here?

            As I said, you are wrong again. I don't believe in these people any more than they believe in me.
            But I believe that they reported true facts about their experience with Mineoro LRLs. And I believe the posts you made contain false information.

            Best wishes,
            J_P

            I wonder how Dr Hung will reply to this.

            HH Rudy,
            MXT, HeadHunter Wader


            Do or do not. There is no try.
            Yoda

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            • Originally posted by Rudy View Post
              I wonder how Dr Hung will reply to this.
              I'm sure they will apply the typical pseudo gobbledygook followed up with a dose of the Dell Winders brand of insults.

              Excellent post by J_P

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              • Originally posted by Rudy
                I wonder how Dr Hung will reply to this.
                Maybe he won't...
                Maybe he will put on his batman costume and fly over to TNet where some wierdos take him seriously.

                Best wishes,
                J_P

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                • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                  Maybe he won't...
                  Maybe he will put on his batman costume and fly over to TNet where some wierdos take him seriously.

                  Best wishes,
                  J_P
                  yer killin' me!!

                  keep it up

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                  • Nice post JP !

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                    • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                      Maybe he won't...
                      Maybe he will put on his batman costume and fly over to TNet where some wierdos take him seriously.

                      Best wishes,
                      J_P
                      You are probably right. He won't come back until this thread is buried a few pages back. So, if we bump this thread every couple of days to keep it on first page then ...

                      HH Rudy,
                      MXT, HeadHunter Wader


                      Do or do not. There is no try.
                      Yoda

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                      • Originally posted by Rudy View Post
                        You are probably right. He won't come back until this thread is buried a few pages back. So, if we bump this thread every couple of days to keep it on first page then ...
                        I think it's now a good time for JP to re-post all the unanswered questions for Hung to ponder over, and then see whether we manage to get answers to any of them before the start of 2012. In particular I am interested in the ones made regarding the fake PD video. These were blatantly avoided, despite numerous postings.

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                        • Originally posted by Rudy View Post
                          You are probably right. He won't come back until this thread is buried a few pages back. So, if we bump this thread every couple of days to keep it on first page then ...

                          Hi. Problem is not Hung...., he is not the owner of Mineoro. We have some problems with the LRLs of Mineoro. If Hung advertise Mineoro, i have not problem. I will write my experience for these lrls. At free forums everyone can say what he think. Same cases with Hung and Mineoro there are at all forums, not only to remote sensing.....
                          Anyway, it is my opinion, you have your opinion etc.......

                          Regards
                          Geo

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                          • Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                            I think it's now a good time for JP to re-post all the unanswered questions for Hung to ponder over, and then see whether we manage to get answers to any of them before the start of 2012. In particular I am interested in the ones made regarding the fake PD video. These were blatantly avoided, despite numerous postings.
                            About the PD video, i sent my video to Fred. I have not problem to post them here (they are about the same with Morgans video), but i must delete the face of Morgan because he don't like to put his face at internet.

                            Regards
                            Geo

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                            • Originally posted by Geo View Post
                              About the PD video, i sent my video to Fred. I have not problem to post them here (they are about the same with Morgans video), but i must delete the face of Morgan because he don't like to put his face at internet.

                              Regards
                              I don´t think Qiaozhi was referring to that video, but the one Hung made, "finding" some coin somewhere.
                              He has the right to say whatever he wants of course, including advertising Mineoro with ridiculous affirmations, but when someone ask something about his comments he would look more educated if he answered.

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                              • Originally posted by Fred View Post
                                I don´t think Qiaozhi was referring to that video, but the one Hung made, "finding" some coin somewhere.
                                He has the right to say whatever he wants of course, including advertising Mineoro with ridiculous affirmations, but when someone ask something about his comments he would look more educated if he answered.

                                Hi Fred.
                                Yes... i remember now. It had the ability to detect a coin at 92...93 cm

                                Regards
                                Geo

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