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  • #91
    Hi Hung
    I don't say that Mineoro is not working, I think that the phenomenon is real and I have verified this in tests with my instruments, I think also that there are many approachs to make an LRL. I don't know if there are somme errors in Geo' schemas and I can only reason on what I see and the gold sensor sure it seems not very orthodox, elettronically speakink, but on the other hand I have build strange antenna that caused some improvements in my Lrl.

    Best regards

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    • #92
      Originally posted by FrancoItaly View Post
      Hi Hung
      I don't say that Mineoro is not working, I think that the phenomenon is real and I have verified this in tests with my instruments, I think also that there are many approachs to make an LRL. I don't know if there are somme errors in Geo' schemas and I can only reason on what I see and the gold sensor sure it seems not very orthodox, elettronically speakink, but on the other hand I have build strange antenna that caused some improvements in my Lrl.

      Best regards
      Hi Franco,
      The simple fact that you have decided to build your own device means that you believe the aproach of long range detection of objects is possible.
      I say that it's not only possible but a reality.

      I wish you the best of luck and success with your LRL.
      "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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      • #93
        Originally posted by hung View Post

        I say that it's not only possible but a reality.
        Maybe it is reality in Alaska, but for shure not in South America, especially not in Mineoro Hacienda.
        Global capital is ruining your life?
        You have right to self-defence!

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        • #94
          Hi WM6
          Did you have realized some instruments or tests respect lrl ? Or your convictions are based only on your knowledge of phisic and electronic ? I don't want to convince you, the same way as Esteban, Morgan, Geo or Hung. We have spent much time for experiments and tests, personally I have realized more than 10 pistol and I have been helped a lot by Esteban and non by private E-mail but by what was in our forum. I admit, I have build the "Morgan" pistol and it don't work for me, but I don't say that it doesn't work for Morgan. I think that it's very critical and only the person that he know the original he can make a working clone. But this was only a point of departure because I thought that in any case there was something true.

          Best regards

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          • #95
            Originally posted by FrancoItaly
            Hi Hung
            I don't say that Mineoro is not working, I think that the phenomenon is real and I have verified this in tests with my instruments, I think also that there are many approachs to make an LRL. I don't know if there are somme errors in Geo' schemas and I can only reason on what I see and the gold sensor sure it seems not very orthodox, elettronically speakink, but on the other hand I have build strange antenna that caused some improvements in my Lrl.

            Best regards
            Hi FrancoItaly,
            Have you found good success with some Mineoro locator?

            The reports I have read say the Mineoro locators were seen to work at the Mineoro factory demonstration area and at locations close to it... but at locations very far away from the factory, Mineoro locators do not work.
            I read many stories of treasure recovery from people in Brazil and Paraguay. But I also read where Esteban says the Mineoro locators do not work as well as his experimental locators in Paraguay.

            What happens when we move away from the Mineoro factory and friends of people who work at the factory?
            I read reports of no detection of treasure in the USA, and very poor or no performance in Mexico.
            I read no reports of treasure recovery using Mineoro in Canada, USSR, China, Korea, Japan, or Australia.
            It seems the greater distance you travel from the Mineoro demonstration yard, the less stories you hear about Mineoro locating treasures.

            We see Morgan reports only on a lucky day they find any detection using Mineoro in Portugal. And his simple passive receiver always works better than Mineoro.
            In Greece, we find even less detection. Greek experimenters do not take the time to make clones of Mineoro locators.
            The story I read is some people have found evidence of a phenomenon, but Mineoros cannot locate this phenomenon except when near the Mineoro factory testing grounds, or when you are a friend of the people who work at the Mineoro factory. The reports I read say Mineoro will not work at all unless you are very lucky to find a day when the Mineoro is not making random beeps or silence.
            And if you find a lucky day when it is working, it will give poor performance.

            I also see some evidence of a phenomenon associated with long time buried treasure. But I don't see believable evidence that Mineoro locators can find any buried treasure or any fresh gold from a long range. Maybe the Mineoro locator will show similar poor performance in Italy.
            Or am I wrong?
            Have you seen Mineoro locators working in Italy to find treasures at long range?

            Best wishes,
            J_P

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            • #96
              Hi J_P.
              Now all are simple, very simple.
              All the story with this detectors is the passive receivers who can detect the static fields. All are the same or about the same. So with good conditions they have the ability to locate an old buried object. But only with very good conditions and if the object has made a topic field.....
              We see the same story.....
              The first pistols from Alonso, the second pistols or DCH85 and the third pistols inside large box the Mineoro PDC... FG...etc. All are a passive receiver as Alonso Pistol who own Morgan.
              At Greece there is a person who made Mineoro clones but with some modifications as he says, but the results from the persons who bought them are not good. I am sure that there are LRLs who works very good and with every condition but they work on other principle.....

              Regards
              Geo

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Geo
                Hi J_P.
                Now all are simple, very simple.
                All the story with this detectors is the passive receivers who can detect the static fields. All are the same or about the same. So with good conditions they have the ability to locate an old buried object. But only with very good conditions and if the object has made a topic field.....
                We see the same story.....
                The first pistols from Alonso, the second pistols or DCH85 and the third pistols inside large box the Mineoro PDC... FG...etc. All are a passive receiver as Alonso Pistol who own Morgan.
                At Greece there is a person who made Mineoro clones but with some modifications as he says, but the results from the persons who bought them are not good. I am sure that there are LRLs who works very good and with every condition but they work on other principle.....

                Regards
                Hi Geo,
                I see you have concluded the passive receiver is the working circuit that helps to find buried things. This is the same idea as Geologists use for their VLF receivers to find buried things when they make their surveys. I see Geologists also use signal generators to broadcast at their search field for their receivers if there is no available signal.

                It seems to me your LRL ides is not too much different than the Geologists idea for locating things buried in the ground. In your case, you have modified the kinds of equipment that geologists use to be a small pistol that is easy to carry. But it is certain your idea is not to use the principle of "love ions" crashing to make femto and atto second pulses. I believe you would find better success with dowsing than with "love ions".

                Best wishes,
                J_P

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                • #98
                  Hi J_P.
                  Don't forget that i am also good at dowsing!!!!

                  Regards
                  Geo

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by FrancoItaly View Post

                    I think that it's very critical and only the person that he know the original he can make a working clone.
                    Hi FrancoItaly

                    All originals are very known and there is nothing serious to clone.

                    Such view (Like: only one person know last LRL secrets) is mystical approach and don't suit serious researcher.

                    Such mystical approach suit only scammers like mineoro and rangertell. They need it to scam business continuation.

                    If you use electronic in dowsing rod, you use known science, nothing mystical. So if it does not work, there is nothing mystical too. It is very simple: it does not work. And no mineoros funny boxes, no rangertell calculator sticks and no other scam crap, does work as claimed. No one (except in his fraudulent videos).

                    But if you need some mystical for your soul, you can find it. Everywhere. In electronic dowsing rods too.

                    I wish you good luck with your dowsing and be careful to not over-dowse your life.
                    Global capital is ruining your life?
                    You have right to self-defence!

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                    • LRL are simple E. M.F. locators

                      Originally posted by Geo View Post
                      Hi J_P.
                      Now all are simple, very simple.
                      All the story with this detectors is the passive receivers who can detect the static fields. All are the same or about the same. So with good conditions they have the ability to locate an old buried object. But only with very good conditions and if the object has made a topic field.....
                      We see the same story.....
                      The first pistols from Alonso, the second pistols or DCH85 and the third pistols inside large box the Mineoro PDC... FG...etc. All are a passive receiver as Alonso Pistol who own Morgan.
                      At Greece there is a person who made Mineoro clones but with some modifications as he says, but the results from the persons who bought them are not good. I am sure that there are LRLs who works very good and with every condition but they work on other principle.....

                      Regards

                      Yes,you are correct.
                      Remember that Esteban found jesuitic treasure with Andy Flind E.M.F circuit...

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                      • Originally posted by WM6
                        Hi FrancoItaly

                        All originals are very known and there is nothing serious to clone.

                        Such view (Like: only one person know last LRL secrets) is mystical approach and don't suit serious researcher.

                        Such mystical approach suit only scammers like mineoro and rangertell. They need it to scam business continuation.

                        If you use electronic in dowsing rod, you use known science, nothing mystical. So if it does not work, there is nothing mystical too. It is very simple: it does not work. And no mineoros funny boxes, no rangertell calculator sticks and no other scam crap, does work as claimed. No one (except in his fraudulent videos).

                        But if you need some mystical for your soul, you can find it. Everywhere. In electronic dowsing rods too.

                        I wish you good luck with your dowsing and be careful to not over-dowse your life.
                        Hi WM6,
                        From what I heard, there are 3 people who know the secret to make the Alonso PD work, and a fourth person who stumbled on it by accident, but does not fully comprehend how to make it work.

                        From what I heard, the secret is not unlike adjusting the coils in a DD coil metal detector, except it is much more difficult, and requires taking the detector away from all buildings, metal things and electric things for final tuning. If the proper tuning procedure is followed, the PD is said to become reliable at detecting gold from 2 meters, and maybe more if lucky. For a VLF DD metal detector, we can expect maybe 25 cm range if well tuned. But if the DD coils and circuits are not tuned correctly, maybe 5 cm and much false signals...

                        Think about it... if you saw the schematic for the TGS metal detector and built it with a DD coil using only the information you see on the schematic, you would not find the detection distance that Max or Ivconic found.
                        But if you read the detailed instructions for tuning the circuits and the coils, you will have a good chance to see good detection range from the TGS.

                        Why would it be different for the PD?

                        Best wishes,
                        J_P

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                        • Originally posted by Geo
                          Hi J_P.
                          Don't forget that i am also good at dowsing!!!!

                          Regards
                          Of course...

                          But opposite ions are also good at loving... same as Romeo and Juliet...!

                          Best wishes,
                          J_P

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                          • Originally posted by J_Player View Post

                            Why would it be different for the PD?

                            Best wishes,
                            J_P
                            Hi J_P

                            it is nothing different.

                            Good constructor of PD can maybe reach (tunned in Brazilian jungle) 25 cm for some targets, others not so experienced maybe at best 13cm. The rest to 3 or 10 kilometers exist only in sweet dowsers dreams.
                            Global capital is ruining your life?
                            You have right to self-defence!

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                            • The Pistoldetector

                              Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                              Hi WM6,
                              From what I heard, there are 3 people who know the secret to make the Alonso PD work, and a fourth person who stumbled on it by accident, but does not fully comprehend how to make it work.

                              From what I heard, the secret is not unlike adjusting the coils in a DD coil metal detector, except it is much more difficult, and requires taking the detector away from all buildings, metal things and electric things for final tuning. If the proper tuning procedure is followed, the PD is said to become reliable at detecting gold from 2 meters, and maybe more if lucky. For a VLF DD metal detector, we can expect maybe 25 cm range if well tuned. But if the DD coils and circuits are not tuned correctly, maybe 5 cm...

                              Think about it... if you saw the schematic for the TGS metal detector and built it with a DD coil with only the information you see on the schematic, you would not find the detection distance that Max or Ivconic found. But if you read the detailed instructions for tuning the circuits and the coils, you will have a good chance to see good detection range from the TGS.

                              Why would it be different for the PD?

                              Best wishes,
                              J_P

                              No J_P
                              the PD is better than you think. Two meters on very little objects (1gr gold nugget) ,7 m five silver coins inside one pot, 15 m or 20 m silver hoard 80 cm buried,and so many other objects found. I think this is the UNIQUE working LRL (detection of coin size objects) post here in this forum.
                              Other LRL´s posted here can work but demands BIG amount of precious metal...
                              What Geo saw in Portugal was just a simple demonstration ,becouse we dont have time for more...

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                              • Originally posted by Morgan View Post

                                Two meters on very little objects (1gr gold nugget) ,7 m five silver coins inside one pot, 15 m or 20 m silver hoard 80 cm buried,and so many other objects found. I think this is the UNIQUE working LRL (detection of coin size objects) post here in this forum.
                                Hi Morgan,

                                problem with all your target is that it was known objects.
                                This fact make all tests invalid.
                                With unknown target there was completely different story.
                                Global capital is ruining your life?
                                You have right to self-defence!

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