Carl's phony LRL report

[Qiaozhi]

What was the make and model of the metal detector you used to do the pinpointing?

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The image you posted is for the dowsing contraption. My question was about the detector you used to do the pinpointing.

[taxma1981]

garret 250 ,why do you ask;

[Qiaozhi]

garret 250 ,why do you ask;

Because your post (#12) implies the item was located solely by using the LRL. No final pinpointing device is even mentioned. This type of selective reporting by LRL users seems to be very common, and is why I asked the question. Whereas, in fact, the item was located using a Garrett 250, and the LRL was only used to subconsciously decide where to start using the real metal detector.

The result would be no different if you simply divided the search area into 6 sections and rolled a dice to decide where to start. A couple of weeks ago I also "subconsciously" decided where to start searching in a large field, and found a roman Denarius, whereas several other detectorists found nothing. Later on that day I also found an 1880 silver Victorian threepence.

Any LRL, that uses a swinging handle to "locate" the target, is a dowsing rod. Regardless of how much electronics is attached to the rods. Without the metal detector to make the final recovery, your find rate would be reduced to almost zero.

[taxma1981]

if it were so then everyone with a scanner could not do so when you hold a metal detector in the hands of just go and never looking for your Aunt UpComing epifotisi / / with the dowsing is different, do not know what to say

[Qiaozhi]

if it were so then everyone with a scanner could not do so when you hold a metal detector in the hands of just go and never looking for your Aunt UpComing epifotisi / / with the dowsing is different, do not know what to say

I don't understand your reply. It appears to be somewhat garbled.

My point is, that using a dowsing rod only helps you to decide where to start searching with the metal detector. It's about as much use as one of those executive decision makers.

[taxma1981]

the other dowsing and another the prediction

[Mike(Mont)]

Translate here, one is etheric the other is astral.

It's so hypocritical how the skeptics want everyone to believe their "reasoning". They want people to accept it as unquestionable scientific fact. I've said it before they feel threatened. They can't understand because they are imprisoned with the book knowledge they parrot/repeat.

Quizo, you really remind me of Jim AKA SWR (snivel, whine, & rant). I thought you were more intelligent than that. Now I wonder if you are one and the same or if he hypnotized you (or was it by sam?).

I can't speak for others, but if I don't find the target in a three foot circle--yes, with a metal detector because it saves time--I don't look any further, I go back and retry.

[Qiaozhi]

Translate here, one is etheric the other is astral.

Your reply is just gibberish.

Dowsing (i.e. when the rods move) is caused by the ideomotor effect. Pure and simple. There is nothing "etheric" going on there. It's all in the mind.

The executive decision maker is in no way related to the word "astral" (that's just ludicrous) and the result is based on chance.

It's so hypocritical how the skeptics want everyone to believe their "reasoning". They want people to accept it as unquestionable scientific fact. I've said it before they feel threatened. They can't understand because they are imprisoned with the book knowledge they parrot/repeat.

Allow yourself to be subjected to a double-blind test, and see how successful you are then. Once the human factor (read "tricks of the mind") are eliminated, the so-called "dowsing effect" magically vanishes.

Quizo, you really remind me of Jim AKA SWR (snivel, whine, & rant). I thought you were more intelligent than that. Now I wonder if you are one and the same or if he hypnotized you (or was it by sam?).

You will note there is no "swivelling", "whining" or "ranting" in my posts. They are all consistent with each other, and are firmly based in the real world, and not one of fantasy or a belief in obsolete medieval practices.

I can't speak for others, but if I don't find the target in a three foot circle--yes, with a metal detector because it saves time--I don't look any further, I go back and retry.

I'm not sure what that means. Are you saying, you "locate" a 3-foot area with your dowsing contraption, then search using a metal detector ... and if nothing is found, you move on? Presumably you make a note each time this happens, and then compare the number of successes to the number of failures. Or do you conveniently use selective memory to forget about it?

[Mike(Mont)]

Now you really sound like sam. Disgusting. Polly want a cracker Aawkk!

I've posted somewhere (probably deleted) that I find gold somewhere around one in five hotspots. Note I said I find gold. This is in city parks without any weight cancelling. Just using an old vlf metal detector. I have no doubt the gold is there is the other four spots but I don't care to tear up the park to find it.

You skeptics are like a laboratory rat that is trained to follow a maze. Can't think for yourself. debunkingskeptics.com

[Qiaozhi]

Now you really sound like sam. Disgusting. Polly want a cracker Aawkk!

Careful. You're starting to sound paranoid.

I've posted somewhere (probably deleted) ...

Yep. definitely paranoid.

... that I find gold somewhere around one in five hotspots. Note I said I find gold. This is in city parks without any weight cancelling. Just using an old vlf metal detector. I have no doubt the gold is there is the other four spots but I don't care to tear up the park to find it.

As you said, "Just using an old vlf metal detector".
You did not say, "Just using a dowsing rod".

You skeptics are like a laboratory rat that is trained to follow a maze. Can't think for yourself. debunkingskeptics.com

I know this is somewhat off topic.
But, have you noticed how much "swivelling", "whining" and "ranting" there is in your posts?

In future, let's try to stick with the technical discussions, and not get diverted into ranting about skeptic delusions, etc. There are other forums on the internet more suitable for that sort of interchange ... and are also more dowsing friendly.

[Mike(Mont)]

Okay, let's stick with it. I heard if you are impotent you can't use a locator. Something about the sympathetic/parasympathetic nerve balance.

[Qiaozhi]

Okay, let's stick with it. I heard if you are impotent you can't use a locator. Something about the sympathetic/parasympathetic nerve balance.

Let's not fool ourselves here. Everyone can use a a dowsing rod ... and it actually "appears" to work when you already know where the target is located. As soon as the test is double-blind, the "magic" goes away. That's why dowsing advocates will avoid a double-blind test at all costs. It's a form of self delusion.

[WM6]

I heard if you are impotent you can't use a locator.

You understand wrong, correct is: You become impotent, if you use locator!

But do not be desperate, with a metal detector you can fully recover your power.

[Mike(Mont)]

BTW, what is it you can't understand about lotto picks? Haven't you ever heard the saying "History repeats itself"? You don't know squat.

Look, I'm not saying impotent people can't dowse. Remember the joke about the guy who took viagra expecting the wife to come home. She called and said her flight was delayed for five hours. He called the doctor and asked him what he should do. The doctor said "Why don't you entertain the maid?" He replied "I don't need that stuff for her!".

Look up The Great Yogic Breath. It deals with the nerve balance.

You guys are so uneducated about any of this.

[Mike(Mont)]

Hypnotized and brainwashed by skeptics. What a pitiful bunch!
The devil (name withheld) is laughing as he wrings his hands.

I've told you guys too many times how even dogs can sense a signal line. Not to mention electronic receivers. I've even designed a cheap one of my own that is more sensitive. It doesn't work on highly conductive ground.

Yes, I know even LRL manufacturers cannot admit other LRL equipment works. I guess it's just human nature.