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  • #31
    Originally posted by wam View Post
    Hi, I propose to use above location to test any alternative LRLs. (and classic MD as well).
    Regards,
    Ummm...
    One problem with this new alternative:

    When I read the article I see they discovered a difference in absorbance of specific wavelengths for different kinds of soil.
    The absorbance frequencies they are measuring are basically light, into the NIR range which our eyes are not capable of seeing.
    In other words, when the surface of the ground absorbs a specific wavelength of light, it reflects a color which happens to be beyond our ability to see.

    As an example, the red color which we can see on the photo below of the Australian soil is caused because the soil is absorbing a specific light frequency which is removed from the reflected light.
    So we see seen it as red-tinted because the reflected light is weighted in the red frequency after the ground absorbs some higher frequencies than red.
    This is exactly what they are talking about in their article, except for colors that are slightly out of our seeing range.
    They are saying they discovered that they can see some new colors for surface soil and rocks that we can't see with our eyes alone, by using NIR camera gear.
    So they are seeing these NIR colors which are invisible until they use a camera that can see into the NIR range.
    Then they these NIR colors help identify certain rocks and soil material.

    But the problem is what they are looking at surface colors of different rocks and soil on the ground.
    Their discovery is that when there are specific rock formations at the surface, these rock formations will have different reflectance NIR colors.
    And these colors of rock formations will tell what kind of rock formations are photographed so we can look for the rock outcrop types that are known to be associated with ore deposits.
    They are talking about the color of the soil and rocks on the surface of the ground.
    Not about a color that is caused by buried gold, or buried ores or metal things.

    What they are saying they discovered is they can use special cameras to extend the range of colors they can see to help identify rock formations.
    So when they look at the picture below, they see a few more colors than the simple red tint on the ground when certain kinds of rocks are present on the surface.
    Then they know it is likely they might find the ores that are usually found in those kinds of rock formations if they see them in the picture.
    Somehow this does not seem to be related to finding buried treasure.
    It seems more useful for mining exploration.

    Best wishes, J_P

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mesy64 View Post
      I need gold and silver metals frequencies that are emitted from the Earth??
      I can not think about a metal generating EM frequency field and a reason why unless we consider the electrons orbiting atom of gold and this will produce EM field with some unique frequency. Sensing this remotely will be a kind of fantasy.
      The other part of theory is that all metals at higher temperature will glow producing light and it means spectrum of EM frequencies. Analyzing this light we can say what kind of metal is it. So, we can say what Sun is made of remotely. Base on this, in theory metal will produce this light in any temperature but if not very hot the intensity of the light is so small that it is not measurable. The next factor is propagation over other matter of this slow intensity.
      So remotely speaking it is realistic to consider frequencies absorb or reflected by gold as a "gold frequencies".

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      • #33
        Originally posted by 1966 View Post
        gold-5.0-5.6 kHz silver-8.7-8.9 kHz copper-11.7 kHz bronze-11.3 kHz iron-17.0-17.8 kHz lead-4.5 kHz aluminum-7.0 kHz
        Това са честоти със които ако бъде облъчен съответния метал , то той влиза в резонанс и започва да излъчва съответните йони

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 1966 View Post
          Това са честоти със които ако бъде облъчен съответния метал , то той влиза в резонанс и започва да излъчва съответните йони
          Can You make a link to some publication how above numbers have been worked out - any published research report etc. please. Did any one described the procedure how to measure it or verify so it can be confirmed each time by all ?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 1966 View Post
            Това са честоти със които ако бъде облъчен съответния метал , то той влиза в резонанс и започва да излъчва съответните йони
            Please make your posts in English.
            Compared to some of the other Treasure & Metal Detecting forums, you will find my rules to be rather simple. I pay for this web site, 100%. I do not accept advertising money from anyone, therefore I do not answer to anyone. Everyone is invited to be candid. However, Be polite. Write messages as if you are standing in

            ... or provide an English translation.

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            • #36
              so what is the translation

              I tried several greek to english translators and none worked. Anyone have the translation.
              Goldfinder

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              • #37
                Originally posted by goldfinder View Post
                I tried several greek to english translators and none worked. Anyone have the translation.
                Goldfinder
                You cannot translate from Bulgarian with Greek-English translator.
                Global capital is ruining your life?
                You have right to self-defence!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by goldfinder View Post
                  I tried several greek to english translators and none worked. Anyone have the translation.
                  Goldfinder
                  This is bulgarian language.
                  It means:
                  gold-5.0-5.6 kHz silver-8.7-8.9 kHz copper-11.7 kHz bronze-11.3 kHz iron-17.0-17.8 kHz lead-4.5 kHz aluminum-7.0 kHz
                  These are the frequencies with which, if the metal is irradiated, it shall enter into resonance and begins to emit the corresponding ions

                  There is no explanation given or information to show some publication that explains how above numbers have been worked out.


                  Best wishes,
                  J_P

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                  • #39
                    Thanks JP

                    Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                    This is bulgarian language.
                    It means:
                    gold-5.0-5.6 kHz silver-8.7-8.9 kHz copper-11.7 kHz bronze-11.3 kHz iron-17.0-17.8 kHz lead-4.5 kHz aluminum-7.0 kHz
                    These are the frequencies with which, if the metal is irradiated, it shall enter into resonance and begins to emit the corresponding ions

                    There is no explanation given or information to show some publication that explains how above numbers have been worked out.


                    Best wishes,
                    J_P
                    JP
                    Thanks much. Sort of hard when one doesn't have the right language.

                    I have been following this thread and the whole topic has been a source is wonder for me for many years. I tried lots of these various frequencies and the only thing I ever found that was consistent was rust iron when looking for gold but no Au.

                    Being an experimentalist and willing to try something like this was an education. What is amazing to me is that there are so many companies selling very expensive signal generators, as that is all they are, and so many willing to buy this stuff. If someone is going to try this get a pair of dowsing rods off eBay for $20 and an inexpensive signal generator for less than $150 and test it out. Save lots of money this way. the coat hanger idea is fine but it doesn't give the user enough tactile psychological feedback even though it does the same thing.
                    Goldfinder

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by goldfinder View Post
                      JP
                      Thanks much. Sort of hard when one doesn't have the right language.

                      I have been following this thread and the whole topic has been a source is wonder for me for many years. I tried lots of these various frequencies and the only thing I ever found that was consistent was rust iron when looking for gold but no Au.

                      Being an experimentalist and willing to try something like this was an education. What is amazing to me is that there are so many companies selling very expensive signal generators, as that is all they are, and so many willing to buy this stuff. If someone is going to try this get a pair of dowsing rods off eBay for $20 and an inexpensive signal generator for less than $150 and test it out. Save lots of money this way. the coat hanger idea is fine but it doesn't give the user enough tactile psychological feedback even though it does the same thing.
                      Goldfinder
                      Well, yes.
                      I think it can cost less than that.
                      If I believed I could find things with dowsing rods and a signal generator, then I would buy some real brass welding rods and some copper pipe and caps for handles.
                      And I would buy a 7555 timer and solder it to a breadboard with a few resistors and capacitors, then stick it on the side of a 9v battery for my signal generator.
                      I could make it extra fancy by adding a switch that would switch between several different frequencies, or even a pot that I could switch on for infinite variation of frequencies.
                      The whole mess would cost less than $15 USD.
                      Then I could have hours of fun looking for treasures at any frequency that people tell me is the secret treasure frequency.

                      From what I saw in Carl's report of the VR-800, this is exactly what they are selling for $1995. http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...r800/index.dat

                      Best wishes,
                      J_P

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                        Well, yes.
                        I think it can cost less than that.
                        If I believed I could find things with dowsing rods and a signal generator, then I would buy some real brass welding rods and some copper pipe and caps for handles.
                        And I would buy a 7555 timer and solder it to a breadboard with a few resistors and capacitors, then stick it on the side of a 9v battery for my signal generator.
                        I could make it extra fancy by adding a switch that would switch between several different frequencies, or even a pot that I could switch on for infinite variation of frequencies.
                        The whole mess would cost less than $15 USD.
                        Then I could have hours of fun looking for treasures at any frequency that people tell me is the secret treasure frequency.

                        From what I saw in Carl's report of the VR-800, this is exactly what they are selling for $1995. http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...r800/index.dat

                        Best wishes,
                        J_P
                        Not so simple!!!!
                        At least the generator must have the ability to give few "ma" of signal to the ground

                        Regards
                        Geo

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Geo View Post
                          Not so simple!!!!
                          At least the generator must have the ability to give few "ma" of signal to the ground

                          Regards
                          Hi Geo,
                          The Intersil 7555 is good for at least 7ma at 9volts. But can be much more depending on which manufacturer version of 7555 is used.
                          If I had a problem where I needed a lot more ma to ground than my 7555 can deliver, then I could easily add a transistor to deliver more power.
                          No need to order a VR-800 for $1995 USD.


                          Best wishes,
                          J_P

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                            Hi Geo,
                            The Intersil 7555 is good for at least 7ma at 9volts. But can be much more depending on which manufacturer version of 7555 is used.
                            If I had a problem where I needed a lot more ma to ground than my 7555 can deliver, then I could easily add a transistor to deliver more power.
                            No need to order a VR-800 for $1995 USD.


                            Best wishes,
                            J_P

                            I never talked about VR-800 or similar.
                            I said that if you need to get any signal from buried objects you need current flow

                            Regards
                            Geo

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Geo View Post
                              I never talked about VR-800 or similar.
                              I said that if you need to get any signal from buried objects you need current flow

                              Regards
                              Hi Geo,
                              That is not what you said.
                              You said "At least the generator must have the ability to give few "ma" of signal to the ground"
                              How much current do you suggest?

                              Is the 7 ma sink from the ICM7555 enough?
                              Or should I use an LMC555 that is tested to be good from -10ma to +50ma?
                              Maybe a bipolar LM555 for 200 ma?
                              Or should I add a 3055 with driver in switch-mode?


                              Best wishes,
                              J_P

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                              • #45
                                And flow thru what?

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