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[WM6]

, this is work for finding gold ?

No doubt, if you know where gold is hidden.

[Fred]

Hi wam,
Yes, I have observed many times these rods detect the direction of gravity.
And I have seen good evidence that the arms are moving too.
I think you are correct.

Best wishes,
J_P

Amazing, puzzling science isnt´it ?
Also: I have never seen perfectly balanced L-rods for sell, and if you build them they won´t work anyway. So this must prove no electrical effects are involved, and that connecting them to $1998 signal generator is useless.

[Fred]

(...) The theory is that body parts will respond to some external condition beyond our control (for sure it is electricity, moisture, gravity). (...).

I believe dowsing abilities will stop if you use a blindfold.
That would reduce drastically the "external conditions" involved

[Geo]

From what i know it is "made in Greece". But they don't tell or write it

[mesy64]

What do you see at the side of arrows???

Black housing color written on it (compass)
????????????

[Geo]

Who knows from where it is marked with arrows What does it do?

What do you see at the side of arrows???

[mesy64]

Who knows from where it is marked with arrows What does it do?

[J_Player]

Hi, rods are moving due to gravity forces. Rods are only indicating rotary movements of arms. Arms are twisting by itself so we can not see it. The principle of rods is that operator is trying to concentrate to keep it parallel but against his will arms will slightly twist (for some reasons bypassing our mind control). The longer the rods the harder to keep it parallel (the more sensitivity for arm rotation). The theory is that body parts will respond to some external condition beyond our control (for sure it is electricity, moisture, gravity). Some people are more responding some less. Response can be change by chemistry too - like alcohol or drags. This is the way to go. People able to detect underground water are with
rheumatic problems.

Hi wam,
Yes, I have observed many times these rods detect the direction of gravity.
And I have seen good evidence that the arms are moving too.
I think you are correct.

Best wishes,
J_P

[wam]

Hi, rods are moving due to gravity forces. Rods are only indicating rotary movements of arms. Arms are twisting by itself so we can not see it. The principle of rods is that operator is trying to concentrate to keep it parallel but against his will arms will slightly twist (for some reasons bypassing our mind control). The longer the rods the harder to keep it parallel (the more sensitivity for arm rotation). The theory is that body parts will respond to some external condition beyond our control (for sure it is electricity, moisture, gravity). Some people are more responding some less. Response can be change by chemistry too - like alcohol or drags. This is the way to go. People able to detect underground water are with
rheumatic problems.

[J_Player]

It is all OK, go for extremes, if you hold rods in hands and the voltage between feet will increase then it can be seen that rods will start moving. When the voltage decrease the movement will be smaller. It works every time with every person (voltages may vary for each person) but it works even if the person is dead for short time. It works for animals too. Some animals are more sensitive to current than humans. May be we should focus on some bionic detector with small animal in the cage to point the direction of electrical anomalies. Let take a mouse and electrocute it frequently so it will run from direction of higher potentials etc.

Hi wam,
This is not even true.
The voltage between the feet does not change.
It is ground voltage, or 0 volts in relation to the ground you are standing on.
The only way to escape this condition is to walk under an enclosure which shields you from the atmospheric voltage in the air.
You could go inside a house, or into a car to remove yourself from the atmospheric field.
Unfortunately, dowsers do not dowse from inside a house or a car.
They dowse where they expect to dig up some treasure or drill for some water.

The atmospheric voltage of 100v/m is so large that it will draw any microamp differences throughout your body to your skin surface through the miracle of electric fields.
It will be impossible to find any difference of voltage, even in tiny amounts from different parts of your skin.
But suppose a dowser went under a shield that kept the atmospheric field away from him.
Then he could develop microamp signals across different parts of his body.
The amount of power in these microamp signals is no where near strong enough to cause a typical dowsing rod to move even in the best conditions.
The very best transducers ever invented need thousands of times more power than these microamp signals to cause a rod to move.

So what could be causing the rods to move?
Maybe some muscles?
Muscles produce enough power to cause rods to move.

Best wishes,
J_P

[wam]

It is all OK, go for extremes, if you hold rods in hands and the voltage between feet will increase then it can be seen that rods will start moving. When the voltage decrease the movement will be smaller. It works every time with every person (voltages may vary for each person) but it works even if the person is dead for short time. It works for animals too. Some animals are more sensitive to current than humans. May be we should focus on some bionic detector with small animal in the cage to point the direction of electrical anomalies. Let take a mouse and electrocute it frequently so it will run from direction of higher potentials etc.

[Morgan]

By COMPASS ???

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I tougth COMPASS was the brand for metal detectors not dowsing rods...

[Morgan]

Hi Fred,
This atmospheric voltage can be very useful when trying to locate some anomaly in the ground that is hard to find by measuring it directly.

People who work with high voltage know it is hard to take measurements of current flow by sampling in the air for electric currents that can leak through the air between high voltage conductors. But it is much easier to use an instrument that will probe for anomalies in the voltage gradient between these conductors. We see that it is easier to map the voltage anomalies, but nearly impossible to map the current flow anomalies. I know this because I worked with high voltage conductors for a number of years.

There is one problem about the dowser feeling the atmospheric voltage, or using simple meters to measure this voltage for the purpose of surveying for where the anomalies are to be found in the voltage gradient. He will distort the atmospheric voltage by standing on the ground. A treasure hunter will have 0 volts at his head, not 200 volts, because he pushes the ground potential up to the location where his body and dowsing rod are located. See here: http://student.fizika.org/~jsisko/Knjige/Opca%20Fizika/Feynman%20Lectures%20on%20Physics/Vol%202%20Ch%2009%20-%20Electricity%20in%20the%20Atmosphere.pdf

Also see diagram below.
The treasure hunter is very lucky that physics says he will push the ground potential up to the surface of his body.
If this was not true, then he could feel some voltage from the air the same as when he puts his finger in the light socket.

So we know that he and his dowsing rod are not detecting the atmospheric voltage.
If they detect anything at all, it is not atmospheric voltage.
Maybe something different which is influenced by anomalies in the atmospheric voltage.


Best wishes,
J_P

By COMPASS ???

[J_Player]

Well, 9v "whatever signal" in the air between two rods is not going to do anything, you know that Geo.
About natural earth gradient: above the surface of the earth there is a voltage that develop, i you could measure it you would see many hundreds of volts between you feets and your head (when you stand up ) This is what makes thunderstorms under special conditions, judging by the size of the "spark" you can imagine how high is the voltage.
I suppose this voltage gradient could influence a lot the effects you are talking about, if you compare it to a 9v battery...

Hi Fred,
This atmospheric voltage can be very useful when trying to locate some anomaly in the ground that is hard to find by measuring it directly.

People who work with high voltage know it is hard to take measurements of current flow by sampling in the air for electric currents that can leak through the air between high voltage conductors. But it is much easier to use an instrument that will probe for anomalies in the voltage gradient between these conductors. We see that it is easier to map the voltage anomalies, but nearly impossible to map the current flow anomalies. I know this because I worked with high voltage conductors for a number of years.

There is one problem about the dowser feeling the atmospheric voltage, or using simple meters to measure this voltage for the purpose of surveying for where the anomalies are to be found in the voltage gradient. He will distort the atmospheric voltage by standing on the ground. A treasure hunter will have 0 volts at his head, not 200 volts, because he pushes the ground potential up to the location where his body and dowsing rod are located. See here: http://student.fizika.org/~jsisko/Knjige/Opca%20Fizika/Feynman%20Lectures%20on%20Physics/Vol%202%20Ch%2009%20-%20Electricity%20in%20the%20Atmosphere.pdf

Also see diagram below.
The treasure hunter is very lucky that physics says he will push the ground potential up to the surface of his body.
If this was not true, then he could feel some voltage from the air the same as when he puts his finger in the light socket.

So we know that he and his dowsing rod are not detecting the atmospheric voltage.
If they detect anything at all, it is not atmospheric voltage.
Maybe something different which is influenced by anomalies in the atmospheric voltage.


Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Hi dear friends...

did you think if we produce a sine signal with special frequency [for example 5khz for gold]
and with a signal generator or a sound player and amplify it by one audio amplifier and send this signal to Lrod's handle, this is work for finding gold ?

I think no.
Some people think yes.


Best wishes,
J_P