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[WM6]

Go to http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/sprint-layout.html
Scroll to bottom of page.
Download "The Sprint-Layout Viewer"
View properties of viewlayout50.exe and tick the "Allow executing file as program" box, or use "su chmod 777 viewlayout50.exe" on the command line.
Start viewlayout50.exe and open the .LAY file.
File can be viewed in Ubuntu Linux, no problem.

Note - you must have WINE installed for this to work.

Thanks Qiaozhi.

I have installed Wine and it works fine.

I am simply not interested to install additional software to view only what others wont pop-up in his posts. If others are lazy, I am lazy too.

[jack]

tank you very very much dear wm6
Please explain the workings of the circuit for me?
How to help brass rods?
What makes a beep?
whith respect
jack

please answer dear wm6

[jack]

hi to all
This is a photos from MFD & LRODS & CIRCUIT (WM6)

[WM6]

Nice handwork, jack.

Congratulations.

I wish you a lot of gold findings.

[Seden]

Geo,

Regarding the PLL circuit, their is one that has the input going to one hand and the other input going to the other hand(with brass dowsing rods in each hand). I don't know if that is the circuit you built with no results but the one I describe here works on the basis of detecting changes in the brains waves in response to locating said target-not using the 567 to detect any VLF waves just so you know.

I remember buying that PLL schematic off some site that sells plans and I recognized how it worked once I thought about it. In that case it could possibly work (detecting the change in brain waves-alpha versus beta,etc.).

All speculation though,

Randy Seden

God's Country,California

[jack]

Nice handwork, jack.

Congratulations.

I wish you a lot of gold findings.

tank you very much dear wm6 please answer to me
Please explain the workings of the circuit for me?
How to help brass rods?
What makes a beep?
whith respect

[WM6]

tank you very much dear wm6 please answer to me
Please explain the workings of the circuit for me?
How to help brass rods?
What makes a beep?
whith respect

All already explained, except questions which are out of my poor English knowledge.

At the end, dowser do not need to know how dowsing rod works, it is enough that those rods works for him as dowsing rods. So, make it and you will get all answers. It is very cheap and simple to use. And what is most important: works the same on all continents.

If you wish to discuss here your construction from your photo, then you need to post here at least shematic you use.

[J_Player]

Morgan I noticed you have Au and Ag backwards.

Au 5K
Ag 8.7K

So they say....

Hi Tim,
I am surprised to see you consider the frequencies for gold and silver to be Au 5K, Ag 8.7K.

If I recall you previously said the MFD should be adjusted to the NMR frequency which is somewhere less than 60 Hz for gold here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...471#post125471

After a lot of discussion and research we figured all the details for calculating the correct NMR frequencies for gold and silver.
A summary can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125686#post125686
Throughout that topic, you agreed that you use your magnetometer to take a reading where you are hunting for treasure before you adjust your frequency.
And you use frequencies for gold somewhere in the range of 32 Hz, not 5000 Hz.
You say in that post that you use 81 Hz for silver.... not 8.7K: "Lets say Ag @ 47000 nt is 80.99 hz. At 47010.5 it's not changed much but to 81.0. In my area the most it changes is about .1 hz from day to day".

We actually find that the NOAA daily averages for Chauvin, LA is average of 35,067.4 nT, not 47,000 nT.
The final gold formula reduces to NMR Frequency = nT measured at location/1339.8.
This calculates to a NMR frequency of 26.17 Hz for gold in the average earth magnetic field of Chauvin, LA today.
But we know the actual NMR frequency will vary between 16Hz and 50 Hz depending on where you are hunting for treasure in the Chauvin area.
This is because the magnetic field daily averages are only averages, and do not take into account the big variations in earth magnetic fields when we walk a few meters distance.
The actual earth field strength often doubles when we walk 100 feet distance across a treasure hunting field.

So, unless we actually measure the magnetic field strength within a few feet of where we are searching for treasure, we cannot know what is the NMR frequency of gold or any other element.
But if we do measure the actual magnetic field strength, we will find that the true NMR frequency for gold is between 16Hz and 50Hz for different location in the Chauvin area.
We will see that the NMR frequency cannot possibly rise above 50 Hz unless we introduce a very strong artificial magnetic field at the location where the metal is buried.

In order for the NMR frequency of gold to reach 5000 Hz, the gold must be in a magnetic field 191 times stronger than the average earth field of the earth in Chauvin, LA.
This means 5000 Hz cannot possibly be the NMR frequency of gold buried in the ground unless you put a very large and expensive coil to make a huge magnetic field where the gold is buried.

The same is true for silver.
The two NMR frequencies for stable silver isotopes are 69.44 Hz and 60.40 Hz in the magnetic field we see in Chauvin, LA today.
These frequencies are not 8.7K...!

In no case will we ever see the NMR frequency of gold or silver rise over 100 Hz without putting the metal in a very strong magnetic field.
The true NMR gold frequency is closer to what Geo says --- "...i use 34Hz for Au"

My question is:
Have you changed your mind to think that the NMR frequency of gold and silver have now been changed to the KHz frequencies instead of 18-100 Hz frequencies?


Best wishes,
J_P

[Tim Williams]

Hi Tim,
I am surprised to see you consider the frequencies for gold and silver to be Au 5K, Ag 8.7K.

If I recall you previously said the MFD should be adjusted to the NMR frequency which is somewhere less than 60 Hz for gold here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...471#post125471

After a lot of discussion and research we figured all the details for calculating the correct NMR frequencies for gold and silver.
A summary can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125686#post125686
Throughout that topic, you agreed that you use your magnetometer to take a reading where you are hunting for treasure before you adjust your frequency.
And you use frequencies for gold somewhere in the range of 32 Hz, not 5000 Hz.
You say in that post that you use 81 Hz for silver.... not 8.7K: "Lets say Ag @ 47000 nt is 80.99 hz. At 47010.5 it's not changed much but to 81.0. In my area the most it changes is about .1 hz from day to day".

We actually find that the NOAA daily averages for Chauvin, LA is average of 35,067.4 nT, not 47,000 nT.
The final gold formula reduces to NMR Frequency = nT measured at location/1339.8.
This calculates to a NMR frequency of 26.17 Hz for gold in the average earth magnetic field of Chauvin, LA today.
But we know the actual NMR frequency will vary between 16Hz and 50 Hz depending on where you are hunting for treasure in the Chauvin area.
This is because the magnetic field daily averages are only averages, and do not take into account the big variations in earth magnetic fields when we walk a few meters distance.
The actual earth field strength often doubles when we walk 100 feet distance across a treasure hunting field.

So, unless we actually measure the magnetic field strength within a few feet of where we are searching for treasure, we cannot know what is the NMR frequency of gold or any other element.
But if we do measure the actual magnetic field strength, we will find that the true NMR frequency for gold is between 16Hz and 50Hz for different location in the Chauvin area.
We will see that the NMR frequency cannot possibly rise above 50 Hz unless we introduce a very strong artificial magnetic field at the location where the metal is buried.

In order for the NMR frequency of gold to reach 5000 Hz, the gold must be in a magnetic field 191 times stronger than the average earth field of the earth in Chauvin, LA.
This means 5000 Hz cannot possibly be the NMR frequency of gold buried in the ground unless you put a very large and expensive coil to make a huge magnetic field where the gold is buried.

The same is true for silver.
The two NMR frequencies for stable silver isotopes are 69.44 Hz and 60.40 Hz in the magnetic field we see in Chauvin, LA today.
These frequencies are not 8.7K...!

In no case will we ever see the NMR frequency of gold or silver rise over 100 Hz without putting the metal in a very strong magnetic field.
The true NMR gold frequency is closer to what Geo says --- "...i use 34Hz for Au"

My question is:
Have you changed your mind to think that the NMR frequency of gold and silver have now been changed to the KHz frequencies instead of 18-100 Hz frequencies?


Best wishes,
J_P

Notice I say "so they say" The 5k and 8.7k are very old frequencies from the 80's! I have a EFNMR program on my site I wrote for earth field nmr frequencies. I was just pointing out the titling was wrong on the switch.

[J_Player]

Notice I say "so they say" The 5k and 8.7k are very old frequencies from the 80's! I have a EFNMR program on my site I wrote for earth field nmr frequencies. I was just pointing out the titling was wrong on the switch.

Hi Tim,
Yes, I did notice you said "so they say".
This is why I was wondering what you actually think.
I see from your previous post you said you think "they" are wrong:

"Yes yes to all of the above! Very good.
...They use fixed because they don't know".

So I asked to see if you still have the same idea that "they" are wrong...
Or did you change your idea to think that KHz are the NMR frequencies for gold and silver?


Best wishes,
J_P

[kostas87]

You can try with a 9V battery and a 100k resistor in series with one rod. It is very strange, but with this you will have an increase at sensitivity.

Hello to all ..
this is true .... that is a testament to the combination was something starts working!
maybe we should begin thinking about how he works;
What makes resistance to a battery which gives as your STRONG signals;
and only the battery is not working;
What really should do; and what exactly;

[Tim Williams]

Hi Tim,
Yes, I did notice you said "so they say".
This is why I was wondering what you actually think.
I see from your previous post you said you think "they" are wrong:

So I asked to see if you still have the same idea that "they" are wrong...
Or did you change your idea to think that KHz are the NMR frequencies for gold and silver?


Best wishes,
J_P

Gold here is 34.98hz Silver 107 is 81.0 and 109 is 94.17hz. Yes these frequencies are good. I still use ring theory to verify.
I think they are using harmonics of these frequencies. The differences between 8.7k and 8.1k may be the difference in location.

If I use the next step up for gold 69.96hz is very close to what I measure using ring theory 70.06hz. So for gold here my body responds the best on the first harmonic for gold.

[nelson]

Hi Geo.
This is another device i will like to try, so if you can share us a good and woking schematic, will be amazing.
Did your got some theasures with this device?
Regards
Nelson

At my new dowsing rod i use 34Hz for Au, 60... 62 Hz for Al and 4.5 hz for Cu.
I will try to give photos and schematic at a new thread.

[nelson]

Hi WM6
Can you post your Livewire file for this shematic?
Also, does it work for you?
Are the generator stable?
Thanks a lot and best regards my friend
Nelson

Here complete schematic with PCB (PCB 3.5x3.5", Corrections: for D1 use 1N4148 and for C1 22pF) :

[Geo]

Geo,

Regarding the PLL circuit, their is one that has the input going to one hand and the other input going to the other hand(with brass dowsing rods in each hand). I don't know if that is the circuit you built with no results but the one I describe here works on the basis of detecting changes in the brains waves in response to locating said target-not using the 567 to detect any VLF waves just so you know.

I remember buying that PLL schematic off some site that sells plans and I recognized how it worked once I thought about it. In that case it could possibly work (detecting the change in brain waves-alpha versus beta,etc.).

All speculation though,

Randy Seden

God's Country,California

Hi Seden.

I tried to find the schematic but i was not lucky.
As i remember there was a brass wire from one hand to the other. At the middle of the wire we take the signal. I tried it for long time without results. If some time i will be more lucky and find the schematic i"ll attach it here. I had find the schematic at Geotech

Regards