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  • Originally posted by mehdi
    Hi my friends
    i din not want to write here the result because i know some people may be dont belive me! and it is usual thing at remote sensing forum!!
    i have not any good Voucher for proof, so it is not important to me that someone can belive me or not.
    yes , mine is mini zahori( the circuit by morgan* many thanks morgan*) and antenna is too but sample is brass with 17 turn around it.
    after a few rain, i went to test my zahori and i can detect a point that zahori sound at less than 1 meter above the ground , when i dig that i can found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground.
    but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!
    all the best
    mehdi
    Hi Mehdi,

    I am interested to know more information of how you found this coin. Can you tell these things?

    1. What metal was the coin?
    2. What kind of ground? Sand, clay? Wet ground, dry ground? Grass?
    3. What was the air temperature?
    4. Was the humidity high or low?

    Thank you for your report.

    Best wishes,
    J_P

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    • Hi J_P
      1. Brass or may be mixed with copper!!
      2. not easy to say, may be all of them mixed together??!!
      3. i am not sure but perhaps about 20 degree centigrade.
      4. the humidity was high.

      all the best
      mehdi

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      • Originally posted by mehdi
        Hi J_P
        1. Brass or may be mixed with copper!!
        2. not easy to say, may be all of them mixed together??!!
        3. i am not sure but perhaps about 20 degree centigrade.
        4. the humidity was high.

        all the best
        mehdi
        Hi mehdi,

        The Zahori is basically an electric field detector. It detects variations in the electric field in the air.
        If it beeped at a place where you found a coin buried, it may have been beeping because the coin caused an electric field to appear, or maybe because something else at the same location was causing the zahori to beep.

        Do you remember if the ground was wet or not?
        Were there plants or grass growing on the ground?
        Were there other things on the ground like fence posts, buildings, telephone poles?
        Was coin buried under a tesla coil?
        was the ground flat? Or did it have a slope or hills on it?
        Were there any big rocks nearby?


        If the humidity was high, then the air was more conductive that day, and it would take a stronger electric field to make beeps on a zahori detector.
        But you would also have less interference from noise in the air on a day with high humidity, so easier to find weak signals.

        One thing that does not make any sense to me is the brass sample in the coil. This brass does nothing that I know of electronically.
        Maybe you can make a second coil identical to your first coil, except do not put the brass sample. Then see if the zahori works the same with the brass as it works with no brass.

        If you think about it the whole coil is made from copper. This is the same as having a copper sample.
        So you could make a coil from aluminum wire to see if this is the same as aluminum sample, and iron wire to see if this is good for iron sample.
        All of this seems silly to me. But we can find out for sure if you make a second coil with no brass sample to see if there is a difference.

        Thank you for the report
        Best wishes,
        J_P

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        • Hi J_P.

          I think that there is a secret with the sample, but i don't know who is it and how to explain.
          I saw some LRLs to have samples inside them.
          Some examples are the Vertex, DCH85 etc...

          Regards
          Geo

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          • Originally posted by nelson
            Hi Michael.I can understand what you said, but i think that this divices has everyone knows, are affected by the kind of weather you have at the moment of search. So this will work on some weather conditions and in some places around the world.I think this depends too of how the atmosphere is charge with static current, so this is the reason why some devices works for some people and why they don´t work for others. Taken this in mind i sugest to define a search protocol when remote sensing devices are under test RegardsNelson
            Hi Nelson, Yes you are right, I know and believe in what you point. that's obvious.

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            • Originally posted by aft_72005 View Post
              Hiiiiiiii Michael .See you again after pass long time again at this forum. How are you??As I remember you built Esteban zahori , but the zahori built by mehdi is The circuit by Morgan . this is other circuit . As you said, I think mehdi will say more .
              Hi dear Aft, Thank you man, I'm good, and how do U do? how is it going?If so, then at least change its' name don't call it zahori again to avoid of any confuse.and other serious question is that Morgan himself has found anything with this ZB(Zahori Brother)? what's other experiences with the ZB? You know better these damn guys have filtered geotech site so hard to enter here andmore harder to put a post harder to edit a post...puffffff.I was so much busy, we approached to the treasure very very close, but again jinns interfered and cut our hands, we don't disappoint we looking for a strong guru to defeat them and will again continue the project. by this time we have expensed more than 4000$ just for digging and still jinns are victor.OK, I got it, As I pointed before, we should see what's the results for all ZB makers, especially Morgan himself.Dear Mehdi would you please explain more carefully about the coin location with details?please answer all J-Player questions or more things.mokhlese harchi juyandeye jeddie ganje makhsusan shomaha.

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              • Originally posted by michael View Post
                Hi dear Aft, Thank you man, I'm good, and how do U do? how is it going?If so, then at least change its' name don't call it zahori again to avoid of any confuse.and other serious question is that Morgan himself has found anything with this ZB(Zahori Brother)? what's other experiences with the ZB? You know better these damn guys have filtered geotech site so hard to enter here andmore harder to put a post harder to edit a post...puffffff.I was so much busy, we approached to the treasure very very close, but again jinns interfered and cut our hands, we don't disappoint we looking for a strong guru to defeat them and will again continue the project. by this time we have expensed more than 4000$ just for digging and still jinns are victor.OK, I got it, As I pointed before, we should see what's the results for all ZB makers, especially Morgan himself.Dear Mehdi would you please explain more carefully about the coin location with details?please answer all J-Player questions or more things.mokhlese harchi juyandeye jeddie ganje makhsusan shomaha.
                Hi Michael

                Also I am good thanks. Morgan using his zahori circuit with BFO circuit . as I read messages ,
                And If what's I said is correct . morgan didn’t use zahori lonely , in the matter better
                Saying more Morgan.
                About your treasure, as I remember you found it by your PD , you are the first person
                That said PD work , also there are the second person that I know his PD work, (
                In the matter I saw movie)
                About your treasure , I am heard many about jinnes finding the person who is be able broke telesm !!!! is difficult .I hope success for you
                About reach to geotech from your location : yes I know this problem , first you can use
                Anti filter program second you can buy with low price VPN connection .
                Best regards.

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                • Originally posted by mehdi View Post
                  Hi my friends
                  i din not want to write here the result because i know some people may be dont belive me! and it is usual thing at remote sensing forum!!
                  i have not any good Voucher for proof, so it is not important to me that someone can belive me or not.
                  yes , mine is mini zahori( the circuit by morgan* many thanks morgan*) and antenna is too but sample is brass with 17 turn around it.
                  after a few rain, i went to test my zahori and i can detect a point that zahori sound at less than 1 meter above the ground , when i dig that i can found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground.
                  but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!
                  all the best
                  mehdi
                  Hi mehdi
                  I congratulate. Are you know from what time it was buried or
                  Other words , what is age of coin ?

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                  • Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                    Hi mehdi,

                    The Zahori is basically an electric field detector. It detects variations in the electric field in the air.
                    If it beeped at a place where you found a coin buried, it may have been beeping because the coin caused an electric field to appear, or maybe because something else at the same location was causing the zahori to beep.

                    Do you remember if the ground was wet or not?
                    yes it was a few wet
                    Were there plants or grass growing on the ground?
                    no
                    Were there other things on the ground like fence posts, buildings, telephone poles?
                    no
                    Was coin buried under a tesla coil?
                    no
                    was the ground flat? Or did it have a slope or hills on it?
                    yes it is flat
                    Were there any big rocks nearby?
                    no

                    If the humidity was high, then the air was more conductive that day, and it would take a stronger electric field to make beeps on a zahori detector.
                    But you would also have less interference from noise in the air on a day with high humidity, so easier to find weak signals.

                    One thing that does not make any sense to me is the brass sample in the coil. This brass does nothing that I know of electronically.
                    Maybe you can make a second coil identical to your first coil, except do not put the brass sample. Then see if the zahori works the same with the brass as it works with no brass.


                    If you think about it the whole coil is made from copper. This is the same as having a copper sample.
                    So you could make a coil from aluminum wire to see if this is the same as aluminum sample, and iron wire to see if this is good for iron sample.
                    All of this seems silly to me. But we can find out for sure if you make a second coil with no brass sample to see if there is a difference.
                    ok, i will try

                    Thank you for the report
                    Best wishes,
                    J_P
                    Hi
                    sorry for my delay, i am very busy at this time
                    best regards
                    mehdi

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                    • Originally posted by aft_72005 View Post
                      Hi mehdi
                      I congratulate. Are you know from what time it was buried or
                      Other words , what is age of coin ?
                      Hi my dear friend thanks a lot
                      the coin age is about 80 years ago ( before reza shah )

                      all the best
                      mehdi

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                      • PD

                        Originally posted by michael View Post
                        Hi all. I wish best things for all of you.are you sure about success with Zahori? I seriously doubt.This device is only good for finding power lines or any line with AC current.I've tested it in many different areas in deserts. more important is on big treasure locations,got no signal even one single beep, but it's able to detect high power lines from 100 meters with very clear strong signals. As another side, the PD is a real detector with more acceptable and repeatable results on that treasure locations. I got this signals on a very big treasure from more than 50 meters and for smaller one from 15-20 meters.Dear mehdi, if you have got any success, please share us your experiences.Thanks in advance.
                        Hello Michael

                        Nice to see you here.
                        You are absolutly right about PD performance. About the Zahori we are making experiments with diferent antenna,we are using SAMPLE,i cant say it works as LRL,but some people have built and said IT WORKSas LRL for large cash hoards. In my field test not detect the buried gold medalion,but this is so small as single coin...

                        Regards

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                        • zahori

                          Originally posted by mehdi View Post
                          Hi my dear friend thanks a lot
                          the coin age is about 80 years ago ( before reza shah )

                          all the best
                          mehdi
                          Hello Mehdi

                          I have only one question for you.
                          What is the wire diameter you use around the BRASS SAMPLE ?

                          Regards

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                          • Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                            Hello Mehdi

                            I have only one question for you.
                            What is the wire diameter you use around the BRASS SAMPLE ?

                            Regards
                            Hi morgan
                            0.6mm !!

                            all the best
                            mehdi

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                            • Originally posted by mehdi View Post
                              Hi my friends
                              i din not want to write here the result because i know some people may be dont belive me! and it is usual thing at remote sensing forum!!
                              i have not any good Voucher for proof, so it is not important to me that someone can belive me or not.

                              yes , mine is mini zahori( the circuit by morgan* many thanks morgan*) and antenna is too but sample is brass with 17 turn around it.
                              after a few rain, i went to test my zahori and i can detect a point that zahori sound at less than 1 meter above the ground , when i dig that i can found about i inch coin at depth of about 10 - 15cm underground.
                              but my zahori sound at that point yet and i dont know why?!!
                              all the best
                              mehdi
                              Hi mehdi
                              At the first, Also I didn’t believe LRL detection until when found some rusty
                              Nails with my long range locator !!!!!!!!! ., I believe there are phenomenon and energy filed around long buried metals now .

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                              • Originally posted by mehdi View Post
                                Hi my dear friend thanks a lot
                                the coin age is about 80 years ago ( before reza shah )

                                all the best
                                mehdi
                                mehdi , thank you
                                yes , age of coin enough for produced energy filed

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