Zahori

[Esteban]

Can be this kind of coupling, but you can find others. Not sure the capacitance here, but is a kind of filter too. Maybe Zahori needs other filter for to reject 50/60 Hz AC frequency.

[Esteban]

Pistol. Antenna isolated of the wood by piece of fiberglass PCB.

[Esteban]

Similar, isolated by gum.

[Max]

Similar, isolated by gum.

Hi Esteban,
I see... so it's fiberglass or gum (I think you maybe mean "rubber") that it's there as non-conductive medium, cause maybe there are electrostatic considerations like small charge flow must be prevented in such devices and some materials are not so good for that.

For example, fiberglass used in pcb (epoxy and fiberglass actually) is good about such stuff cause both glass and epoxy are excelent materials.

Sure, fiberglass can be electrized but unless you rub that stuff with e.g. some tissue/silk it wouldn't happen easy.

The wood, instead, have very small leakage currents that could possibly give wrong signals to such sensitive "electrometer", cause zahori, indeed IS an electrometer.

So, it's like in gold leafs electrometer the glass acts as insulant there and leafs are just connected to the rod and far away other conductive mediums.

Now, the problem is: if the zahori is just an electrometer (and indeed it is) how can it show the presence of a target ???

We must face the "fact" we need an electric field around a target to explain why the zahori could work as lrl for real.

So, is there any electric field ??????

Very confusing... I don't understand why the target must show, inside soil, a different potential than soil around !

What do you think about ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
I see... so it's fiberglass or gum (I think you maybe mean "rubber") that it's there as non-conductive medium, cause maybe there are electrostatic considerations like small charge flow must be prevented in such devices and some materials are not so good for that.

For example, fiberglass used in pcb (epoxy and fiberglass actually) is good about such stuff cause both glass and epoxy are excelent materials.

Sure, fiberglass can be electrized but unless you rub that stuff with e.g. some tissue/silk it wouldn't happen easy.

The wood, instead, have very small leakage currents that could possibly give wrong signals to such sensitive "electrometer", cause zahori, indeed IS an electrometer.

So, it's like in gold leafs electrometer the glass acts as insulant there and leafs are just connected to the rod and far away other conductive mediums.

Now, the problem is: if the zahori is just an electrometer (and indeed it is) how can it show the presence of a target ???

We must face the "fact" we need an electric field around a target to explain why the zahori could work as lrl for real.

So, is there any electric field ??????

Very confusing... I don't understand why the target must show, inside soil, a different potential than soil around !

What do you think about ?

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max,

Of course, the theme is the electric field around targets buried for long time.

The fiberglass PCB, I think, is a good isolator, better than common PCB. Fugue of small current in common PCB is not good. You can barnished the isolator PCB pieces used for antennas and the wood. Maybe Zahori is good in metal box, but don't know.

Regards

Esteban

[Fred]

Hi Max,

Of course, the theme is the electric field around targets buried for long time.

The fiberglass PCB, I think, is a good isolator, better than common PCB. Fugue of small current in common PCB is not good. You can barnished the isolator PCB pieces used for antennas and the wood. Maybe Zahori is good in metal box, but don't know.

Regards

Esteban

Glass is usally excellent, you could use a broken lamp, or ceramic isolator for antennas...but maybe PCB is good enought.

[hung]

Ola Morgan,
Eu pessoalmente não estou a criticar ninguém, simplesmente a explicar que ninguém ensinou com clareza como construir o aparelho, que o forum privado não ajudou nisso e que quando alguem tem duvidas tecnicas aparecem "moderadores" inesperados.
Nunca disse que duvido daqueles que dizem ter exito, nem do facto de poder (ou não) haver um fenomeno desconhecido, mas sim e desde o principio do meu desagrado por este pseudo-secretismo pseudo-privado.

Fred é Português!

[Esteban]

Glass is usally excellent, you could use a broken lamp, or ceramic isolator for antennas...but maybe PCB is good enought.

I think in it (and ellaborate) years ago. I cut a glass used for drink and put a fiber glass PCB recycled (round) for to sustain antenna.

[Fred]

Fred é Português!

Será que sou?
Il faut se mefier des apparences, mon cher Hung, c´est une possibilité mais ce n´est pas nécessairement vrai.
Le fait que l´on puisse s´exprimer en differentes langues ne prouve rien.
Il est un fait indeniable, c´est q´avec vous c´est un plaisir de brouiller les pistes
J´espere en tous cas, en faisant cela, ne pas participer la confusion aparente qui reigne dans votre esprit sur tout ce qui touche a la technique...

[Esteban]

Fred é Português!

Portuguese language from Madeira? Macao? Berlenga Grande? Porto Santo? Santo Tomé y Príncipe? Timor Oriental? Cabo Verde?

[Fred]

Portuguese language from Madeira? Macao? Berlenga Grande? Porto Santo? Santo Tomé y Príncipe? Timor Oriental? Cabo Verde?

Brazil ?

[Esteban]

Brazil ?

Island of Brazil? Island of Mozambique?

[Morgan]

Je ne sais pas...

Será que sou?
Il faut se mefier des apparences, mon cher Hung, c´est une possibilité mais ce n´est pas nécessairement vrai.
Le fait que l´on puisse s´exprimer en differentes langues ne prouve rien.
Il est un fait indeniable, c´est q´avec vous c´est un plaisir de brouiller les pistes
J´espere en tous cas, en faisant cela, ne pas participer la confusion aparente qui reigne dans votre esprit sur tout ce qui touche a la technique...

Oui , c ´est vrai, parler en differentes langues ne prouve rien..
Et moi,je suis portugais ?

Of course,ja,oui,yes,da,si,simmmmmmmmmmm

[Morgan]

Joga no loto

Portuguese language from Madeira? Macao? Berlenga Grande? Porto Santo? Santo Tomé y Príncipe? Timor Oriental? Cabo Verde?

Joga no LOTO,que com essa pontaria vais ganhar !!!

[Fred]

Joga no LOTO,que com essa pontaria vais ganhar !!!

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