Zahori

[Esteban]

Yo'ure the AC producer!! You must be move right to left or left to right (depend of your political inclination, OK this is a joke ) all the moment while you're walking. Your movement is the AC, because you never stay quiet, so the signal is pick with the alternating slow movementt of your arms. You obligate to change the voltage in the input in the moment pick a voltage variation in the area.

[hung]

"Now i am having FG78 on test for 2 weeks again....So many times checked, disected....Every part of it checked electronically......What to say?

My dear Ivconic.
I say as I did before, chances are the FG78 has BAD COMPONENTS. This is not Mineoro's fault. This is the components manufacturer's. fault. This was then discovered and traced by Mineoro. Read my post about this in the past months.

You can off course, 'dissect' your Mineoro unit as you want just for educative purposes and have a 'tour' inside the box. You won't get anything more than that.

[Qiaozhi]

My dear Ivconic.
I say as I did before, chances are the FG78 has BAD COMPONENTS. This is not Mineoro's fault. This is the components manufacturer's. fault. This was then discovered and traced by Mineoro. Read my post about this in the past months.

You can off course, 'dissect' your Mineoro unit as you want just for educative purposes and have a 'tour' inside the box. You won't get anything more than that.

Hmmm...
"...the FG78 has BAD COMPONENTS. This is not Mineoro's fault." :confused:
They must have pretty poor quality control then, since it managed to leave the factory and get sold to some unsuspecting victim. A fairly sad state of affairs, I would say.

[ivconic]

AC


Esteban i agree with you. I had that on my mind, therefore i picked up antistatic clothes when checked it...There are plenty of other AC sources in nature, thats why Zahori and simillar devices are so unreliable to work with.
You just never know is it something really detected or not.Of course you can turn arround and "sniff" more, change angles,directions...but at the end you are not sure again.
About FG... Well, what to say? Money was spend for it? Huge money! Poor customer is living in Europe, and it is much complicated now to send it back and replace with newer one.....shipment....costs....nervs...
I am curious what RObert is gonna say about that?? Ha,ha,ha....He is somewhere, on some Greek island......He'll return in October and than we'll see! .....Ha,ha,ha...
Much more luck with those kind of devices people!
regards

[hung]

1 - It's not Mineoro's fault because it had never happened in the past with the PDC series. Unfortunately some components from the usual manufacturer proved UNRELIABLE. This means it would't carry a steady function. It varied badly. Although all devices are tested prior to leaving the factory they can't hold the devices for weeks in testing. It's impractical. When the customer finds or suspects his unit is deffective, he only needs to contact the factory to investigate and not come to forums to bash Mineoro. This is stupid and shows what kind of researcher this poor fella is.
The civilized customer just contacts the factory and reports the case. No drama or hysterical reactions. If proved faulty, the device is imediately replaced.

2 - All deffective units are replaced. The customer only needs to contact the factory. Unfortunately many decide to perform a little show to get publicity instead of doing the right thing.

[Qiaozhi]

I am curious what RObert is gonna say about that?? Ha,ha,ha....

So am I. It should be very amusing. I could do with a good laugh...

[sony]

To Hung...

:mad:
To Hung...

* INSIDE MINEORO 210
* MINEORO DETECTORS EXPLANATION
* MINEORO FALSE NEWS
* MINEORO FG80
* MINEORO FRAUD
* MINEORO GALLERY
* MINEORO NEWS
* MINERO
* ZAHORI
These are threads among many others where you Hung reside mostly. If man read all your posts
so far (so much same words,retorics,advertisments) he'll get uncureable pain in his a..
Cant you see that nobody agree with you here any more?
Cant you see that everyone knows what is your decision here?
You are payed mineoro promoter.Your job is to defend,promote and advertise mineoro products here.
MAN YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND BY NOW THAT THIS IS TECHNICAL FORUM. TECHNICAL FORUM IS FOR PEOPLE TO
SHARE,EXCHANGE,MOD,IMPROVE,DISCOVER......
NOBODY HERE SUSPECT SOME DEVICE WITHOUT VERY GOOD REASON. REVERSE E. IS ALL ABOUT LEARNING MORE
FROM OTHERS, NOT JUST TO COPY....IT IS NOT PIRACY.
PIRACY IS WHEN YOU MAKE ILEGAL COPY AND SELL FOR MONEY....NOT WHEN YOU DISECTED TO LEARN AND STUDY.
YOU MUST HAVE SOME DECENCY AND STOP BASHING HERE WITH YOUR NONSENCES ANY MORE.
PLEASE DO THAT! PLEASE STAY OFF POSTING NONSENCES HERE AT LEAST FOR A WEEK OR TWO! PLEASE!
AND PLEASE BEFORE YOU START POLLUTING SOME THREAD FIRST READ TWICE WHAT IS THAT THREAD ABOUT!
PLEASE, DO NOT MIX SUBJECTS ANY MORE LIKE YOU DID IN ZAHORI THREAD!
ZAHORI THREAD IS ABOUT ZAHORI NOT ABOUT MINEORO! CANT YOU AT LEAST READ AND UNDERSTAND TITLE OF
THREAD !?
DO NOT SEND PEOPLE IN ASYLYM TO TAKE YOUR PLACE THERE MAN!
NOBODY LISTEN YOU ANY MORE! YOU JUST WASTING SPACE HERE!
SOMEBODY SHOULD CLEAR UP THIS MAN SOME THINGS YET!

We just lost dear friend Jackdetect who was real deviser,real EE,expert....His work stay unfinished
because sudden death, and lack of money in last couple years. I feel so sorry and mad at the same
time! While some CREATURES have much more money than they need, and can afford to spend time,space
and money everywhere to bash and bug everyone.....at the same time some real enthusiasts do not
have chance even to speak from time to time...
If you had at least some decency you'll shut up for a while!

[ivconic]

I am FRAUD !!!!


I am FRAUD,MOUNTEBANK....!!!!
I just sold Zahori to a guy for 50 euros !!!
He insisted to buy it,cose he is sure that can detect items with it???
So i sold it.....
Am i FRAUD?
Yes!
Ha,ha,ha....
Think twice about this....
It is not fair to use ignorance of some people to earn some money, but if they insist.....ts,ts,ts.....
Somehow i feel like mineoro owners or Thomas Afillani....

[Qiaozhi]

I am FRAUD,MOUNTEBANK....!!!!
I just sold Zahori to a guy for 50 euros !!!
He insisted to buy it,cose he is sure that can detect items with it???
So i sold it.....
Am i FRAUD?
Yes!
Ha,ha,ha....
Think twice about this....
It is not fair to use ignorance of some people to earn some money, but if they insist.....ts,ts,ts.....
Somehow i feel like mineoro owners or Thomas Afillani....

What??? Only 50 euros!!
You should have asked for 5000 euros.
At least Zahori is a proper electronic circuit. It may not detect gold, but at least it does something.

[michael]

And one person proposed more than 550$ for it, but I refused.

[ivconic]

Proposition!


Than i have proposition for you;

I'll manufacture those in a huge series and you be my salesman.....later we will split money!
How about that?
I am not very good in trades so i'll better stay in workshop....

[michael]

Thank you for your plan, but due to my believes and conscience I don't like these ways to make money. If I wanted, would easily make money on these ways and to do jobbery of some people ignorance and credulity. I like money earning without swindling others.
maybe you taunt me for ordering FG80, but you know I'm not credulous who easily pay money for anything.
I made my assessments and got that mineoro detectors work, but maybe not necessarily as is being claimed. we reached to end of ways for our locations and no other choice, unless mineoro.
very bored and despaired of conventionals, what's new in TH affair? do you know better than Lorenze deepmax X3? (or conceivably Genesis) then what? so many places will remain unscanned.
maybe we get not satisfying results by mineoro, and after that we will really give up any kind of THing cos can conclude present technology can’t pervade to those purposes we want.
Do you have any good suggestion?

[ivconic]

R A M A C





R A M A C





P.S. or some other georadar....

[michael]

I have seen the info about those, but:
1- Have you yourself used of them? how sure are you that it can detect an small copper pot in e.g. 4 meters depth, as you know GPRs has so many limitations: soil mineralization and humidity,...
2- How many peoples are there with reports of founds by GPRs? would you please inform me or give an address?
3- what's their search speed? when wandering in huge area how quick can search?
4- Are able to scan hard slopes in mountains, valleys or hills?
As I have said before we presume that we have one fantastic conventional pinponter Instrument which is able to easily detect one coin at 20 meters depth, and shows it's real graph, and even discriminate very precisely, then can we search by it wild impassable terrains in short times? of course not. this is the nature of conventionals. I like powerful pinpointers and we started our works with MDs, but after hearing the news of some success by omnitrone, inclined to LRLing.
at first I was little skeptic and much more curious about LRLing till that time I got acquainted to that weird friend who was really able to find gold by his homemade MFD, what a pity... this caused us...Notsi... our homemade MFD + DDL and now...
all of conventional detectors are complementary tools for professional THing.
I have seen Lorenze Deepmax X3 working; it's superb, where exp 4000 couldn't show anything, it found a small copper pot at 4 to 4.5 meters depth. all were shocked, but what's advantage can't scan most areas at least for most of our location is useless.
now you propose RAMAC GPRs which are much palsy than good MDs? not good, not. GPRs are not appopriate option.
Zahori, was a new thing, admittedly unable to MDing, but was good point and gave us opinion for very easy search. we thought if mineoro be 1/20 what is advertised is enough for us.
of course we will work in combination method with mineoro, unless its' pinponter works as well as being claimed.

[ivconic]

Not yet!


Not yet! I just saw on picture on the .net....It is damn expensive! Very Hot!
By now i can only dream about it!
But i heard a lot of positive experiences with it!
Sebian Institutes (Archeology...blah,blah) have one of those...
They discovered huge roman city under the ground (400x350 meters) on 15 meters depth without digging. Last summer they started to dig and it showed 100% accurate!
You may try to find about that on Google by term Viminatium or Viminacijum or simillar, right now i can not remember proper term...

For other you posted....i can talk about it, but now i am in a hurry....I'll post answer in a few days...
Regards!