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  • #61
    Originally posted by Great_Alex View Post
    but the explorer always detects the coin


    ΤΗΕ explorer............For me... is the best &
    cheap metal detector.


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    • #62
      just a sort of advise

      Hi GREAT ALEX

      Try to test those frequency yourself to come up what is best for you. For me, 59.5 khz does not work well.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by aft_72005 View Post
        Hi Morgan
        Inside of receiver, you use ferrite with coil plus battery and
        Small circuit . Why?
        Please upload receiver circuit. Also more explain.
        Best regards .

        Hi Morgan
        I waiting, ……………………… or maybe secret .
        Best regards.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Great_Alex View Post
          the gold frequency that you are used are so diffrent

          630.980.610 Hz = 631Mhz & 6,20 KHz of Geo , 59.5 Khz of Steban device &

          i don't understand what's the correct frequency , maybe it response to each frequency



          i have similar experience with Gravitator ,sometimes it works very well but sometimes detect nothing .

          but the explorer always detects the coin


          Hi Great Alex
          Although I had random result with Lrods plus function generator but ,
          About molecular frequency scanning systems,as I knowing and read
          The most producer setting For gold (approximately) ~ 5khz and silver ~ 8.7 khz .
          Applying to earth by two probe.
          Best regards.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Great_Alex View Post
            the gold frequency that you are used are so diffrent

            630.980.610 Hz = 631Mhz & 6,20 KHz of Geo , 59.5 Khz of Steban device &

            i don't understand what's the correct frequency , maybe it response to each frequency



            i have similar experience with Gravitator ,sometimes it works very well but sometimes detect nothing .

            but the explorer always detects the coin
            Can be some different inject frequency via rods in soil than uses oscillator as detector. By the way 59.5 is near 62 Khz (used by Alonso) and 6.2 Khz is harmonic of 62 Khz (1/10). So, your point is between 5.6 Khz to 6.2-6.4 Khz and in other way 56 Khz to 62-64 Khz. Can be variations fo the type of gold mixing with others metals and in different proportion.

            For oscillator "high frequency" as 300 Khz means you'll detect aluminium foil of cigarettes, chiclets, etc.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Great_Alex View Post
              i have similar experience with Gravitator ,sometimes it works very well but sometimes detect nothing .

              but the explorer always detects the coin
              And ... are you surprised by this?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
                I also saw that photo, and the implication is that these coins were found with the LRL / dowsing rod contraption. However, I expect the final recovery was done with a real metal detector.
                Also small gold chain can't be detected by real metal detector, and is recovery by electronic LRL. But real metal detector is useful for to find into the hole or sparzed removed sand for to find the target... this is not a mistery. When you excavate the site, the "phenomenom" "breath", and detection dissapears sometimes or is poor, so you need also real metal detector as part of your artillery.

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                • #68
                  If you want to learn about rings look on my site.


                  The frequency you are using if off causing the ring to shift to the right or left.

                  Tim
                  Bringing metal detectors into the world of imaging!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Great_Alex View Post
                    the gold frequency that you are used are so diffrent

                    630.980.610 Hz = 631Mhz & 6,20 KHz of Geo , 59.5 Khz of Steban device &

                    i don't understand what's the correct frequency , maybe it response to each frequency



                    i have similar experience with Gravitator ,sometimes it works very well but sometimes detect nothing .

                    but the explorer always detects the coin
                    You will never find a universal accepted frequency for specific metals. The reason is, each operator determines what they believe is the frequency for "themselves" and their particular equipment. These "frequencies" are determined completely by empirical methods; hence there will never be a single frequency that can be agreed is the "right" frequency.

                    This is the ONLY result there can be when multiple sources take data on random occurring events and observations.

                    Plus, don't forget one of the biggest problems with the MFD and the frequency notion. In nearly all instances the generated frequencies are of a power level that is so minuscule, as to have ZERO influence on any distant targets beyond a few centimeters from the source.

                    Like the Ring Theory, the MFD/Frequency Theory is completely bogus. There are no "so-called" rings around buried metals or treasure items. This Ring Theory was concocted by an LRL scam artist in order to explain away the obvious Empty Holes that will happen when his customers complain about the dowsing contraption not working. The Ring Theory was concocted strictly as part of a marketing scheme, is total pseudo-science and has no connection with real science or physics.

                    If you want to learn more about such things, I found a great deal of good information on

                    The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                    Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                    • #70
                      Sam I thought you only slander people using re-mailers on google? Are you supposed to attach peoples character? Didn't you get on trouble in the past for that?

                      Metal Detectors, metal detector, prospecting, treasure hunting, treasures, metal detecting, metal detector, detector, gold, silver, coins, lost coins, jewelry, lost, found, money, riches


                      You can see some of Sam's post here. He's the guy that used to write articles about dowsing and sold dowsing equipment. Anyone that does not agree with Sam is harassed and slander. There is a picture of Sam on this site. See if you can find it. Also Sam if you can prove willful deception please do. Otherwise I would except Carl to silence your post.

                      IF you want proof of who you are I will supply it. You link yourself to google by the above post. I have all post you have on google about me. If you can prove willful deception do it. Other wise if you want to say my equipment is bogus go for it. Stop attaching my character. If you don't use dowsing that's your business.

                      Carl talk to Sam and keep him in line.

                      Tim
                      Bringing metal detectors into the world of imaging!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Tim Williams View Post
                        Sam I thought you.... (other nonsense clipped)

                        Tim
                        Who is Sam? Do not see anyone here by that name.

                        If you are making ref to my remarks about your Ring Theory, that is fine. My remarks were in no way "attaching" or attacking your character. (I'm not sure what "attaching" is.)

                        I stand by my original remarks. The Ring Theory is bogus and is pure pseudo-science. If you would like to prove my remarks are wrong you will need to back up your Ring Theory with validated scientific proof and data, supported by other than yourself or other LRL salesmen. Bring on the data, I'm anxious to see it.

                        The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                        Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                        • #72
                          Tell you what Sam. Let's let the good people of this forum decide if you are tacking me using the words "LRL scam artist".

                          Also if Carl approves of your bashing dowsers, then I think the good users of this forum should ask Carl if you are Sam! I think Carl is honest and has no reason to lie for you Sam.

                          So if anyone here wants to know if Theseus is the Sam that Dell and other have been talking about. The Sam that has caused many dowsing forums to go under go ahead and ask Carl here.

                          As far as my ring theory I am open to testing by
                          qualified
                          people of which you are not.

                          Tim
                          Bringing metal detectors into the world of imaging!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Tim Williams View Post
                            Tell you what Sam....

                            Tim
                            Wow. You seem to be a very confused and irate individual. I guess you must've gotten burned pretty bad by this chap "Sam".

                            But let's put aside your anger and past dealings with this fictional character.

                            I'd rather concentrate on you providing scientific (validated) data for this Ring Theory. Who exactly are "qualified" to validate this theory? Has Carl observed the Ring Theory? Would he be qualified?

                            Please explain who would be "qualified", other than other dowsers and LRL salesmen.

                            Let's get down to the facts here, about this Ring Theory, and quit beating around the bush.

                            Either these rings exist (for everyone; all observers) or they don't; and it is nothing more than a concocted marketing scheme.

                            Here is our starting point. I say the Ring Theory is bogus and totally baseless. Prove me wrong.

                            The Wallet-Miner's Creed
                            Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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                            • #74
                              A university that would test random people 1000 or more a study for responses using rods. There I answered your question. Now please answer mine.

                              Sam I thought you only slander people using re-mailers on google?

                              Are you supposed to attach peoples character?

                              Didn't you get on trouble in the past for that?

                              Are you saying you are not Sam?

                              What if I showed you email from people you know that know you are Sam? Would you believe them?

                              You know me Sam. If you want to bash my equipment go ahead. I have no problem with that. I also was the first to say there is no proof that rings exist. And no equipment can prove human perception does not sense rings when dowsing.

                              The question to you is are you Sam, Jblack, Karl Miller, Jean and many others. By the way the above list of name have been kicked off treasurenet forums. Can you guess why?

                              Tim
                              Bringing metal detectors into the world of imaging!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Great_Alex View Post
                                the gold frequency that you are used are so diffrent

                                630.980.610 Hz = 631Mhz & 6,20 KHz of Geo , 59.5 Khz of Steban device &

                                i don't understand what's the correct frequency , maybe it response to each frequency



                                Answer is simple. All those frequencies might be correct as there's no such thing as 'the correct frequency'.

                                All elements are made of several and several frequencies which are relevant as to determine its shape, color, size, density, etc and etc.
                                Once you determine a fair amount of relevant ones, chances are you will get strait to the target with no false signals.
                                The secret is to master the correct way to filter the desired ones and apply the right concept.
                                A one only frequency is prone to several falsings.

                                Good luck.
                                "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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