LRL Frequence of Gold

[Dell Winders]

Sam, are you still jealous that LRL's work better than your fancy Dowsing Pendulums you were selling for high prices? Dell

[Theseus]

Must be a VERY big treasure, right ?

Yes, a very big treasure, or on the other hand, it could be a transmitter of some kind emitting a "real" RF signal of the frequency being listened for.

[Clondike Clad]

Sam, are you still jealous that LRL's work better than your fancy Dowsing Pendulums you were selling for high prices? Dell

DELL YOU ARE DOING THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Theseus]

DELL YOU ARE DOING THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dell, thinks it is okay for him to do whatever he wants. He believes he is immune to and exempt from all the laws of the land, simply because he has gotten away with his deceptive marketing schemes for so long. Dell needs to pay more attention to what just happened to his buddy Bob Yokum.

Sometimes it is slow, but eventually justice will prevail.

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders
Sam, are you still jealous that LRL's work better than your fancy Dowsing Pendulums you were selling for high prices? Dell

Sometimes it is slow, but eventually justice will prevail.

You are right about that, Sam. I see you are hiding behind another deceptive alias and trying to control your jealous prejudice so they don't come after you, Again.

My claims are always honest & truthful, and have evidence to support, You have already taken your best shots to no avail. You don't have a Scientific leg to stand on, which you are surely aware of by now. Your slander is contrived, and as bogus as your pretense to be who you are not.

It's very unlikely that Mr. Yokum, considers me a buddy of his. That's only in your imagination. Dell

[Theseus]

You are right about that, Sam. I see you are hiding behind another deceptive alias and trying to control your jealous prejudice so they don't come after you, Again.

My claims are always honest & truthful, and have evidence to support, You have already taken your best shots to no avail. You don't have a Scientific leg to stand on, which you are surely aware of by now. Your slander is contrived, and as bogus as your pretense to be who you are not.

It's very unlikely that Mr. Yokum, considers me a buddy of his. That's only in your imagination. Dell

Once again your paranoia is affecting your mind, Dell. Sam??? I don't see any posts from Sam. Me hiding??? Who is hiding??? My user name is Theseus, and is no different from all the other user names on here. You seem to be really taken with this Sam fellow from your past. He must've done you some real dirt somewhere along the way; probably many years ago, the way your mind works. If he ever stops by here, I'd like to shake his hand buy him a beer and congratulate him for a job well done.

And if Bob is not your buddy, at least he was in the same business you are in; only he got hauled into court. Just something for you to think about.

[rajesh]

frequency of gold

dear Fred
yes actually im planed to built a tow box type locator simeller frequency near gold...

[rajesh]

frequency of gold

dear sweatofgl go as soon as but you shuld be use a plastic handle and aportable antena near a old bueired treasure location........

[Seden]

For Theseus

Theseus,

Physicist Dr.Paul E. Dobler in his experiments with high end millimeter waves found that all materials give off radio waves,hence the millimeter wave passive security cameras in use today. He measured gold's frequency at 1.2mm or 249GHZ.
This was done in the turn of the last Century after Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose's experiments with lower millimeter waves,both using the same primitive lab equipment at the time.

If you want to find out about this goto http:www.addall.com, click on used books and type in the Author space Paul E. Dobler and you will see 1 copy of his condensed book in eng. and 2 auf deutsch which contains detailed info complete with photographs which I bought and highly recommend and they are both around $50 from a bookstore in Austria (which is strangely enough where I bought my copy).
Get informed,

Randy

[Theseus]

Theseus,

Physicist Dr.Paul E. Dobler in his experiments with high end millimeter waves found that all materials give off radio waves,hence the millimeter wave passive security cameras in use today. He measured gold's frequency at 1.2mm or 249GHZ.

Isn't that interesting, especially in light of the fact that most LRL/MFD contraptions are utilizing frequencies in the Audio Spectrum; that is Hz and KHz. Something doesn't quite add up here, wouldn't you agree? Next thing somebody will tell me is that they are using "harmonics" of the GHz frequencies. I've heard it all. Incidently, if buried metals were giving off frequencies there would be NO reason at all to sense them with error-prone dowsing rods. Someone would have designed a simple receiver to detect the aforementioned frequencies, and there would be very few buried treasures left in the ground. So far that hasn't happened. Hmmmmm.... curious.

Incidently, if getting informed means I would have to invest in a library of esoteric/occult books about pseudoscience and other things that go bump in the night --I'll leave that to you and your friends of a similar ilk. If you really enjoy those kinds of "far out" topics, I suggest you research the Rife Instruments, Radionics boxes and the work of Pierre Beasse. When you get totally informed on that topic, the next one I would suggest you investigate would be Orgone Energy, Orgone Accumulators and the experiments of Wilhelm Reich.

BTW, I think Walmart is currently running a special on aluminum foil; and you'll probably need quite a lot of it once you start building your orgone accumulator.

Birds of a feather flock together.........

[Seden]

Theseus BE informed

I was testing you Theseus to see if when provided with actual past discoveries of Physicists if you were truly interested in scientific facts you would acknowledge it and thank me for telling you. Instead you became sarcastic and refuted these Scientists,calling them occultic.
So that proves to me that you truly aren't interested in Science,but just after LRL/MFD/Dowsers.

I know I'm wasting my time telling you this but for the rest of the forum there is currently a device in development that will be able to indentify various metals or elements based on their Millimeter or THz wave frequency. Voodoo science,occult? Nope, just science-sorry Theseus. Maybe when the article comes out you can take it to your outhouse and read it on the throne.
Science really isn't all that bad once you get over the fear of it,hey who knows,you just might learn something. Or it could be an excellant laxative.

Randy

[Steve in MS]

Even if gold, etc gives off specific frequencies, once they are under the ground it would much harder for that frequency to be of a magnitude that could be useful for any practical device to pickup.
There is no free lunch, gold is not "screaming out" a frequency that can be detected from a long distance.
A question, has there ever been any electronic instrument constructed to do such a feat?
If so, how far distance can it pick it up?
What are the chances any current LRL would do the same thing?
Honest answers to these questions need to be entertained, right?
Some are making electronic LRL's to detect with, they use BFO's as the main part of their construction which also brings up a question to be asked, namely why can't a standard BFO detector with a large coil do the same thing?
One would think the large brand detector makers, such as Whites, which spends big money on making detectors would already know about specific frequencies of metals.
Then they would market such detectors so they could make more money....

[Seden]

Great observations Steve

Steve,

You're right,a 249GHZ signal will not penetrate soil more than a few centimeters if I'm remembering right. Far as gold on the surface the transmission distance would not be great to due the curvature of the earth and at that frequency even if it is at a high elevation relative to a receiver, the attenuation vs distance can vary from .9db per kilometer up to 5 db/Kilometer for high humidity per Bulletin Number 70 entitled "Millimeter Wave Propagation: Spectrum Management Implications" published by the Federal Communications Commission,July 1997.

Far as your other statements,I pointed out that a device is currently being developed to detect metals by their frequency. When you start researching Millimeter/THZ technology,you quickly realize that it is so cutting edge it's still in the labs at Universities or big companies. Do a google search on Millimeter cameras or THZ imaging and take note of the URL's.

So be patient Steve, Technology will catch up to your wishes. The equipment is VERY expensive. Oh yeah you can go to Virginia Diodes http://virginiadiodes.com/ and window shop. Just imagine what all that nice precisely machined stuff must cost to coble together a working receiver.

Also let it be known that my reply to Theseus was to let him know that technically gold and other materials do emit RF but I in no way was implying that these are what LRL/MFD/dowsers are responding to. And actually gold will give off ions if excited by ultaviolet light at 244nm which is under the topic of photoion emissions. Problem with the ions are they drift away and so with photoion emissions it is done in a vacuum to prevent this so that blows away (oops,no pun intended here) the "detecting gold by ions" theory.

Randy

[Theseus]

I was testing you Theseus to see if....

Yeah right. I'm already light years ahead of you in the science department, so test away.

I know I'm wasting my time telling you this but for the rest of the forum there is currently a device in development that will be able to indentify various metals or elements based on their Millimeter or THz wave frequency. Voodoo science,occult?

ROTFLMAO.... Boy, I wish I had a dollar for every "kitchen/garage inventor" that has come on here (and other forums) claiming to be building the ultimate LRL. I'd be a rich man.

With that kind of work going on, you had better not spend too much time here.

Be sure and come back and tell us all about your great invention. If Wilhelm Reich was alive, he'd be proud of you.

[Theseus]

I pointed out that a device is currently being developed to detect metals by their frequency. When you start researching Millimeter/THZ technology,you quickly realize that it is so cutting edge....

Where have you been? Spectroscopy, and its application to chemical analysis and material identification has been around a great many years. Spectroscopic technique is used to assess the concentration or amount of a given species. The instrument that performs such measurements is a spectrometer or spectrograph. Spectroscopy/spectrometry is often used in physical and analytical chemistry for the identification of substances through the spectrum emitted from or absorbed by them. This includes the technique you are alluding to, and is nothing new, merely an offshoot of common technology that has been around a very long time.

Nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy analyzes the magnetic properties of the various atomic nuclei to determine different electronic local environments of hydrogen, carbon, or other atoms in an organic compound or other compound. This is used to help determine the structure of the compound and identify the various constituents of a compound or material. Again, nothing new, as this type of analysis technique was used by myself and other researchers well over a decade ago.

I suggest you read up a little more on what has been done with "real" science and technology before you attempt to meld the terminology with your own brand of pseudoscience in the hope of yielding the next generation of LRL.