Maligned Rangertell Examiner: Field Testing

[J_Player]

Everything can be more simple if dowsing Rod´s not cost exagerated money,becouse anyway its very interesting to try them in field.
I have good results with this cheap one,but still a dowsing Rod...

Hi Morgan,
Perhaps you did not read the posts in here correctly. This is not a topic to test a cheap dowsing rod. The topic is
"Maligned Rangertell Examiner: Field Testing".

This means the posts here are to describe the field testing methods for a Rangertell, not methods for cheap electronic dowsing rods.
The method you posted may be good to test dowsing rods, but is not good for the Rangertell, because according to hung, the Rangertell is clearly a radionic device, not a dowsing device. Hung says the Rangertell requires the operator to hold the pistol in order to receive signals that are shot and returned, so his cells can react to the returned signals and store charges like a capacitor. This cannot happen when using the dowsing rod you show in the picture you posted. This is because the dowsing rod swivel is not in the operator's hand, instead, it is in a metal trunion where it swivels away from the operator's hand. Also, this electronic dowsing rod does not have a calculator to shoot and return a signal line.

This is an interesting dowsing rod you are showing.
Is the LRL you are showing also a radionics device, or is it pure dowsing?
Does the coil at the antenna cause a carrier signal line to shoot and return? Or is the coil only for receiving?

Best wishes,
J_P

[hipopp]

rangertell examiner and gold in quartz

Did you break open any of the other quartz specimens which the RangerTell DID NOT "pick up"?

I see where you are coming from...but.... i for one do not break open every rock or lump of quartz that my Fisher Gold Bug metal detector passes over without signal. What is at stake here with this rangertell examiner is far far deeper than just a remote sensor or the phenomena of dowsing. It is the ability of the operator to find Gold that is my goal to quantify. I am not biased in favour of the device, it will remain an accessory to the pursuit of locating Gold. This forum will be supplied the relevant information in due course.

[Theseus]

Hi Morgan,
Perhaps you did not read the posts in here correctly. This is not a topic to test a cheap dowsing rod. The topic is
"Maligned Rangertell Examiner: Field Testing".

This means the posts here are to describe the field testing methods for a Rangertell, not methods for cheap electronic dowsing rods.
The method you posted may be good to test dowsing rods, but is not good for the Rangertell, because according to hung, the Rangertell is clearly a radionic device, not a dowsing device. Hung says the Rangertell requires the operator to hold the pistol in order to receive signals that are shot and returned, so his cells can react to the returned signals and store charges like a capacitor. This cannot happen when using the dowsing rod you show in the picture you posted. This is because the dowsing rod swivel is not in the operator's hand, instead, it is in a metal trunion where it swivels away from the operator's hand. Also, this electronic dowsing rod does not have a calculator to shoot and return a signal line.

This is an interesting dowsing rod you are showing.
Is the LRL you are showing also a radionics device, or is it pure dowsing?
Does the coil at the antenna cause a carrier signal line to shoot and return? Or is the coil only for receiving?

Best wishes,
J_P

"...Rangertell requires the operator to hold the pistol in order to receive signals that are shot and returned, so his cells can react to the returned signals and store charges like a capacitor."

Buck Rogers is alive and right here on this planet...

Seriously, I certainly hope you actually get to witness a test of the unit.

[Fred]

I see where you are coming from...but.... i for one do not break open every rock or lump of quartz that my Fisher Gold Bug metal detector passes over without signal. What is at stake here with this rangertell examiner is far far deeper than just a remote sensor or the phenomena of dowsing. It is the ability of the operator to find Gold that is my goal to quantify. I am not biased in favour of the device, it will remain an accessory to the pursuit of locating Gold. This forum will be supplied the relevant information in due course.

Hi,
And how many specimen that the RT detected did NOT contain gold? did you count them?

[hipopp]

freds response

The RT EX only located two specimens and both contained Gold at Walhalla. i did very little with the RT because faye and i went riding our motorbikes most of the time....After reading all the previous posts i am becoming of the conclusion i must possess some metaphysical qualities that others do not have if dowsing is all that it is because faye certainly cannot get a response from the RT in all cases. If it was human dowsing then all humans would get a response and the RT would get a tick of approval as being a 100% dowsing device. the only difference with faye and i is 1. she is female 2. she has a blood iron disorder and therefore may not be as good an aerial? as myself 3. I have two titanium plates in my right upper and lower leg from a trail bike accident. Members of this forum, if they believe in dowsing as a legitimate phenomena, should direct all their efforts away from cheap criticism and expend their efforts on quantifying/proving why dowsing works, if that is what they sincerely believe. /we would never need to buy an electronic gold detector again. Cars would drive under our Will Power etc etc etc . like i said before folks, i have merely offered to share my testing and conclusions with you. I do not understand the resistance to learning that the RT challenges us with.

[Clondike Clad]

Damn you are good

Hi Clondike-Clad,
Ummm.... The answers are simple, I think.
However, in order to fully understand the dynamics involved, we must search back to previous posts that hung made describing the workings of the Rangertell:
With hung's recent post and previous posts, we can gain a clear insight to how he believes the Rangertell works:
To start with, a carrier signal is shot and returned by transmissions originated in the calculator. Now keep in mind how our cells store charges and act like capacitors, which is imperative to the functioning of the signal line that is returned after being shot by the Rangertell. The subatmic resonance which was pre-programmed on the calculator clearly is impinging on the biological cells of the rangertell operator.

How? This is easily explained by the DNA of gold and the organic substance it produces to coat the metal to fight against corrosion. The coding for the gold DNA is what returns with the shot signal, along with the subatomic resonance data that impinges on the DNA in the capacitive cells of the operator's body. After some complex chemical exchanges inside the operator's cell walls, the resultant magnetic field induces movement of the rangertell, thus causing it to point in the direction of the treasure. This is all confirmed by science as told by physicist Myron Evans' details of Aharonov Bohm type effects. Simply open your mind and reject the standard Maxwell Heaviside concept so you can begin to believe that A and omega are not zero.

So we see that the rangertell is a radionic device as hung described, not a pure dowsing rod.

Best wishes,
J_P

Did I get it right?
I bet you know how to build a warp drive system.
I was I was as smart.
I didnot know that gold was alive and have DNA
THAT CALCULATOR MUST HAVE A POWERFUL XMITER.

[Fred]

Members of this forum, if they believe in dowsing as a legitimate phenomena, should direct all their efforts away from cheap criticism and expend their efforts on quantifying/proving why dowsing works, if that is what they sincerely believe.

Personally i want to begin by trying to discover if it works,and so far no success: i have never seen anyone or anything proving it.Should not be so dificult!!??
Then and only then the why and how questions .

[Qiaozhi]

Members of this forum, if they believe in dowsing as a legitimate phenomena, should direct all their efforts away from cheap criticism and expend their efforts on quantifying/proving why dowsing works, if that is what they sincerely believe. /we would never need to buy an electronic gold detector again. Cars would drive under our Will Power etc etc etc . like i said before folks, i have merely offered to share my testing and conclusions with you. I do not understand the resistance to learning that the RT challenges us with.

Clearly you have no intention of performing a double-blind test of the RT Examiner, and therefore your conclusions will be worthless.

Dowsing is well known to be a trick of the mind, and does not require any supernatural powers. It is purely the ideomotor effect at work. This is the same process that makes ouija boards and table tipping "appear" to be something more fantastic than they really are. There is no detection of anything in dowsing, except gravity. It is an illusion, which is enhanced by the remarkable ability of humans for self-delusion, and selective memory.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

[Morgan]

Ramka

Hi Morgan,
Perhaps you did not read the posts in here correctly. This is not a topic to test a cheap dowsing rod. The topic is
"Maligned Rangertell Examiner: Field Testing".

This means the posts here are to describe the field testing methods for a Rangertell, not methods for cheap electronic dowsing rods.
The method you posted may be good to test dowsing rods, but is not good for the Rangertell, because according to hung, the Rangertell is clearly a radionic device, not a dowsing device. Hung says the Rangertell requires the operator to hold the pistol in order to receive signals that are shot and returned, so his cells can react to the returned signals and store charges like a capacitor. This cannot happen when using the dowsing rod you show in the picture you posted. This is because the dowsing rod swivel is not in the operator's hand, instead, it is in a metal trunion where it swivels away from the operator's hand. Also, this electronic dowsing rod does not have a calculator to shoot and return a signal line.

This is an interesting dowsing rod you are showing.
Is the LRL you are showing also a radionics device, or is it pure dowsing?
Does the coil at the antenna cause a carrier signal line to shoot and return? Or is the coil only for receiving?

Best wishes,
J_P

This electronic Rod is interesting,its not pure Dowsing,the antenna only moves if locate metal target. Until now i found with this device a few coins and silver jewlry,no iron,no empty holes.
At the first looking it looks simple but inside the electronic box exist one PCB(inside resine)one 9v battery, manny wires,a LED and one Potentiometer for GAIN.From the box it goes one wire to Antenna.
This is not expensive Rod ,name is Ramka,its hand made,no internet information.
Sorry to put this in Rangertell thread...

[J_Player]

....After reading all the previous posts i am becoming of the conclusion i must possess some metaphysical qualities that others do not have if dowsing is all that it is because faye certainly cannot get a response from the RT in all cases. If it was human dowsing then all humans would get a response and the RT would get a tick of approval as being a 100% dowsing device. the only difference with faye and i is 1. she is female 2. she has a blood iron disorder and therefore may not be as good an aerial?

Hi hipopp,
The description I posted of how the Rangertell works is not my idea. It is what hung said about how it works. I only searched hung's posts where he previously gave the intimate details of the workings of a Rangertell, and re-posted them so all could have the benefit of his expertise.

How it really works? I don't know. I hope to learn more from a live demonstration that Rangertell is attempting to arrange.

However, I can tell you what Rangertell said that may clear up some of your questions. Accordig to Rangertell, the Examiner is calibrated to work for the right hand of the operator. Left-handed users do not get a response. I am not sure, but I think that people with certain medical problems could have reduced responses. A third item I once read on the Rangertell website is that the operator's body completes the circuit to ground. Apparently it is imperative that whatever signal is received must travel through a human body entering through the right hand, and travel to ground in order to be processed correctly.

The prevailing theory amongst LRL proponents is the calculator generates a signal which is picked up by the internal antenna and circuitry, and is somehow directed to the target. This signal will be selective depending on the button sequence pressed on the calculator. ie: the buttons you press on the calculator will send a specific frequency to the antenna that resonates in some manner whereby only certain elements will respond by returning a signal.

The returned signal is received (I presume via the same antenna) and travels through the handle into the operator's right hand. From this point, it somehow interacts with the operators biological cells as it travels to ground through his shoes. I imagine that there are very small currents involved, and the coupling to ground may even be capacitive rather than a dc current flow. But I am just guessing.

So far I have heard a lot of weird explanations of how the Rangertell works.
If I see enough positive results in the live demonstration, I will probably buy a unit to use for further testing to actually measure the tiny signals and try to determine what is actually happening. But for me, the important thing is whether it leads to recovering valuable treasures, not how it works. If it works to recover treasures, then it is well worth the money. How it works is just a bunch of useless information unless you plan to build a similar device.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

I bet you know how to build a warp drive system.
I was I was as smart.
I didnot know that gold was alive and have DNA
THAT CALCULATOR MUST HAVE A POWERFUL XMITER

.Hi Clondike Clad,
Actually I am not that smart. I only know what others tell me. You will see in my original post above that all of what I said including the gold DNA really came from hung's posts that detailed the actual workings of a Rangertell.

Sure I can build a warp drive, but I'm not so smart because it didn't work. When I followed the instructions from a teenager who posted how to build a warp drive, it caught fire because the hot melt glue was too close to the propane flame. (Take note: Never substitute a propane flame for dilithium crystals).

Best wishes,
J_P

[Steve in MS]

Another strange thread an usual.
Micro gold is not a good starting place to determine if the Ranger can actually find gold.
Hung mentions

Conventional MDs besides working on a completely outdated and different aproach are things of the past. So a comparison is out of question.

Those outdated MD's, things of the past??
At least they have been proven time and time again to actually
work.
Now nobody is picking on anyone here, show proof the Ranger works
then all doubt will be removed.
Yeah, you believe it works but without proper testing, most people don't believe they work simply because no evidence is available.
Mind over matter isn't going to go to over to well for a device said to be able to detect gold over a long distance, after all, it is a product sold to the public with that claim.
Come down out of the clouds and be objective for one time.
Either it works or not, no excuses.

[Theseus]

Micro gold is not a good starting place to determine if the Ranger can actually find gold.

Absolutely correct, Steve. Unless extensive "comparison" testing is done to ascertain the exact amount of micro gold found WITH and WITHOUT using the RT Examiner, a test in known gold-producing areas would be completely null and void. (useless and proving nothing)

[Dell Winders]

Absolutely correct, Steve. Unless extensive "comparison" testing is done to ascertain the exact amount of micro gold found WITH and WITHOUT using the RT Examiner, a test in known gold-producing areas would be completely null and void. (useless and proving nothing)

Another reason why the Carl Morland, $25,000 publicity gimmick is an intentional deception, and useless except for his own self promotion. and gratification. Scientifically, it proves absolutely nothing except it's ability to garner the support of a few educated idiots who like to hide behind aliases and pretend they are Scientist. Dell

[Theseus]

Another reason why the Carl Morland, $25,000 publicity gimmick is an intentional deception... ??? Dell

Guess I don't follow your logic, Dell. Perhaps there isn't any logic to follow; rather just random words strung together to form more useless rhetoric.

One thing for sure is that any test designed by Carl will be according to DB protocol and as such would eliminate (to a strong degree) Chance Results from scoring a successful outcome.

Hmmmm... come to think about it, I suppose that would seem unfair to you and your do-nothing dowsing contraptions.

To win the prize, you and your gadgets would actually have to perform the "stated" or "implied" function/claim. I can see where you'd have a problem with that constraint.