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  • Dowsing revisited

    Obviously there is much misunderstanding concerning dowsing. Let's face it, the typical beginner is going to stare at the pendulum (or rod) until they are hypnotized then the wishful thinking takes over while all the time the person is swaying around like a drunk and believing the rod is pulling them in a certain direction.

    Sounds exagerated but it isn't. You gotta emotionally detach yourself from the search. I mean for most beginners the rod is the elephant in the room and it draws all of the person's attention. It might sound stupid, but you are not searching for the rod. And besides, when you focus all your vision (and attention) on an object you are left side brain dominant. That's something a beginner has to overcome. Probably heard about using a soft focus and for me, I like to direct this to a spot a couple inches past the tip of the rod and direct this thought energy outwards like a search light/beam. This is when I use the "Mind's Eye" thing. I describe it as "Seeing with the subconscious" which is probably a misnomer as everything comes through there first. But if you think of the human body as a transceiver there is a circuit--your energy going out and then you try to feel the effects on the target field. People talk about field pressure, field membrane, etc. that surrounds a target. I have described the process as the search beam (thought energy) is an extension of the rod and I use it sort of like a truckdriver uses a tire iron to thump the tires to check for air pressure only we're dealing with field pressure here. And in case you didn't realize, the field pressure is not going to feel real strong for a beginner. Of course knowing how to use the rod as an extension of yourself is really going to improve your sensitivity. Try rubbing the palms of your hands flat together for 60 seconds. Now slowly move your hands closer together (don't touch together) and try to feel the charge (field pressure)there. It takes time for your hands to wake up and feel the subtle energies. I describe it as a flickering like when a neon light is starting up. I have also heard to hold your opposite hand down a foot lower so you get a bit more voltage to work with.

    If you continue to practice, one day things will gel. And once you learn what it feels like then you know what to look for next time.

    A bit more on the left brain obstacle. Your vision can input large amounts of info to your brain, up to 80% of sensory data. So this is the main one your need to filter out, thus the soft focus, etc. But even once you have learned to do this, you still need to learn to halt the mental processes which I might refer to as prejudices we all have. Some people really do think they are so special that they don't even need to address this issue.

    BTW, I suppose this word will get banned, but the internet is a breeding ground for
    sociopaths. When I call someone that, it's a polite way to mean just about every swear word in the book!

  • #2
    Complete gobbledygook and mystical nonsense.

    Theseus - For me this is a lost cause. I'll leave this one to you.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post

      BTW, I suppose this word will get banned, but the internet is a breeding ground for
      sociopaths. When I call someone that, it's a polite way to mean just about every swear word in the book!
      Hiya Mike!

      I agree, the internet is a breeding ground for sociopaths. Here are two examples of a sociopath LRL proponent here on Geotech






      Are you a sociopath, Mike?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post

        If you continue to practice, one day things will gel.
        And once you learn what it feels like then you know what to look for next time.
        If you continue to practice, one day you will get dead.
        And once you learn what all you miss in real life, there was no chance for next time.
        Global capital is ruining your life?
        You have right to self-defence!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WM6 View Post
          If you continue to practice, one day you will get dead.
          And once you learn what all you miss in real life, there was no chance for next time.
          I could not have said it better. Imagine, devoting (wasting) the best part of a lifetime to chasing pendulums and dowsing rods around; and still not understanding that there are no physical energies to be sensed, and that the whole concept is a trick of the mind - a simple ideomotor response.

          I might add just one thing; if Mike knows and understands all he iterated in the opening post, wouldn't it be safe to assume he must be one of the most successful (if not THE most successful) dowsers on the face of the Earth?

          And, if he's not, .....well, I guess he just needs some more practice.

          The Wallet-Miner's Creed
          Why bother with the truth, when it doesn't suit the argument?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mike(Mont) View Post
            Let's face it, the typical beginner is going to stare at the pendulum (or rod) until they are hypnotized then the wishful thinking takes over while all the time the person is swaying around like a drunk and believing the rod is pulling them in a certain direction.

            Hey, you don't have to be a beginner to do that.

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            • #7
              Hey Mike why you don't just let people keep searching for the super LRL?
              Don't you see they are blind?
              They have it inside them but they keep looking arround them.
              I start believing you are a missionary my friend.
              Anyway I am still reading anything related to dowsing and this includes your posts as well.

              You should be over here Mike.
              Greece is a dowsers paradise for sure!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by g-sani View Post
                .
                Greece is a dowsers paradise for sure!
                Therefore forever the paradise of undiscovered treasures too.


                Here some help to believers for free:

                Digital humidity sensor - free sample:

                Global capital is ruining your life?
                You have right to self-defence!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                  Therefore forever the paradise of undiscovered treasures too.


                  Here some help to believers for free:......
                  If you consider as a believer somebody that unearthed treassure more than once using dowsing then I have to admit it.
                  Yes I am a believer.
                  And if you think that if this that I am saying is truth then it can only be happened by chance then you have no idea of what treasure hunting is about and never mind your knowledge about electronics.
                  I know you don't take me seriously anyway.Just joking WM6!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by g-sani View Post
                    then you have no idea of what treasure hunting is about
                    100% correct. Not only in his case, but in the case of some 'enlighteneds' here.


                    and never mind your knowledge about electronics.
                    How much? If he can't understand the simple law of charges?

                    Hey George, I salute your gift as a dowser. I have read here your success.
                    Unfortunately I cannot dowse with rods.
                    But I do use very well the RT Examiner which is not dowsing and it worked for me.

                    Actually the term dowsing is so limiting and so vast at the same time, that it's frequently misused in forums like this one.
                    I know someone who is a gifted person. He can 'remote view' persons and particular situations happening at that same instant in another place. That is, he has the ability of remote viewing past the 'n' space barrier. This means a wave propagation not restricted to the time and space continuum.

                    Of course there are hundreds and even thousands of persons like himself. He is not the only one.

                    Of couse the skeptics here will bash this and will not believe it. But that's exactly what their limited minds tell them to do. Simply bash something you do not understand instead of study it. Too much work for the mind.
                    Thank God I don't belong to this group.

                    George, as soon as the TNET forum is up again, I will forward you to a very popular thread I started there called 'When Science Shouts to the Deaf'.
                    In this thread I tell the factual and real case of experiments that happened in China, 1981, when several children and adults could teleport objects including radio transmitters from one location to another. This all was documented and video taped.
                    This confirms the nature of electron as a wave and its broadcast not limited to dimensional barriers.

                    In the thread I publish the conclusions of Eric Davis of Warp Drive Metrics, an organization that was used by the US Military to write a report on this.

                    Best regards.
                    "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      100% correct. Not only in his case, but in the case of some 'enlighteneds' here.
                      100% wrong.

                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      How much? If he can't understand the simple law of charges?

                      Hey George, I salute your gift as a dowser. I have read here your success.
                      Unfortunately I cannot dowse with rods.
                      But I do use very well the RT Examiner which is not dowsing and it worked for me.
                      Yet another example of your erroneous beliefs. The RT Examiner is a dowsing rod, despite the misleading claims of the manufacturer.

                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      Actually the term dowsing is so limiting and so vast at the same time, that it's frequently misused in forums like this one.
                      I know someone who is a gifted person. He can 'remote view' persons and particular situations happening at that same instant in another place. That is, he has the ability of remote viewing past the 'n' space barrier. This means a wave propagation not restricted to the time and space continuum.
                      Pseudo-scientific gobbledygook.

                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      Of course there are hundreds and even thousands of persons like himself. He is not the only one.
                      Poor misguided individuals, somewhat like yourself.

                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      Of couse the skeptics here will bash this and will not believe it. But that's exactly what their limited minds tell them to do. Simply bash something you do not understand instead of study it. Too much work for the mind.
                      The skeptics here fully understand these so-called paranormal activities, and if you had studied the phenomena to any degree you would not be supporting this nonsense.

                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      Thank God I don't belong to this group.
                      There is no deity involved. Membership of the skeptic group comes from knowledge of the real world, not living a fantasy.

                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      George, as soon as the TNET forum is up again, I will forward you to a very popular thread I started there called 'When Science Shouts to the Deaf'.
                      In this thread I tell the factual and real case of experiments that happened in China, 1981, when several children and adults could teleport objects including radio transmitters from one location to another. This all was documented and video taped.
                      This confirms the nature of electron as a wave and its broadcast not limited to dimensional barriers.
                      You have already posted this rubbish once in the Geotech forums, and you were severely kicked as a result. It never ceases to amaze me how you completely accept all and any paranormal crap that comes your way, even without a shred of evidence.

                      Originally posted by hung View Post
                      In the thread I publish the conclusions of Eric Davis of Warp Drive Metrics, an organization that was used by the US Military to write a report on this.
                      Really?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post

                        The skeptics here fully understand these so-called paranormal activities, and if you had studied the phenomena to any degree you would not be supporting this nonsense.
                        Unexperienced, not open-minded, uncritical, blind believer => remain believer

                        Experienced, open minded, critical, eager to learn believer => become skeptic

                        In general: all skeptics are (former) believers.

                        Global capital is ruining your life?
                        You have right to self-defence!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hung View Post
                          100% correct. Not only in his case, but in the case of some 'enlighteneds' here.
                          .........................

                          George, as soon as the TNET forum is up again, I will forward you to a very popular thread I started there called 'When Science Shouts to the Deaf'.
                          In this thread I tell the factual and real case of experiments that happened in China, 1981, when several children and adults could teleport objects including radio transmitters from one location to another. This all was documented and video taped.
                          This confirms the nature of electron as a wave and its broadcast not limited to dimensional barriers.

                          In the thread I publish the conclusions of Eric Davis of Warp Drive Metrics, an organization that was used by the US Military to write a report on this.

                          Best regards.
                          It will be very interesting Hung to watch such a video.Please let me know the link as soon as it is up.
                          I read a lot about remote viewing projects and one thing I will study next is remote viewing for sure.
                          A good friend of mine is really charismatic in both dowsing and remote viewing and that's how I personally knew it works.From one point of view I was really lucky to have a friend like that since it gave me the oportunity to know that these things work when others just have to figure this on themselves.I believe this is why I keep trying telling even to skeptics that dowsing works.
                          It is not that dificult if somebody wants to show you how and what to do.
                          Dowsing(physical) can be easily learned if there is somebody available to guide you through.Of course he must be willing to share his secrets whith you otherwise your steps will be much much slower and may be you will not reach the level that you could possibly reach.Guidance is very important in dowsing since practise goes side by side whith theory plus there are things missed from bibliography which can make the difference as well.
                          Many times somebody reads a book and everything in there is known because he read so much about the subject.But suddenly he reads a bit saying something that he never read before and then he realises that it was worthy reading the same things again because there was a jewel between them.This is how it goes and somebody must be eager to learn if he really wants to do so.
                          Is it so difficult for people to understand that if the US military spent time and money about such concepts then it will be something real there for sure.Apart from that they gave those projects for study to their best officers which says something as well.
                          I keep track of sources related to these subjects Hung and one of them is also the following link. http://www.learnrv.com/eddames.cfm

                          Best wishes
                          g-sani

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                          • #14
                            George, thanks for the link. The Remote Viewing Project by the US Military is cited in Eric's report and was another front aimed to study also the events ocured in China.

                            I have no info about the whereabouts of the videos made at that time. Probably is in China's pocession only or maybe the Military also have them.

                            The good news is that I forgot that I had that TNET thread saved in my computer.

                            I will post it bellow, so you and others can read, learn and acknowledge what is happening out there.

                            Have a good reading.
                            "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                            • #15
                              When Science Shouts to the Deaf

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                              From an honest opinion an logical aspect, Long Range Locator forums be either this one or any other, should primarily and solely be used to exchange ideas, better techiques, new aproaches and healthy information to treasure hunting among its participants. A forum like this would naturally include LRL users or proponents in its majority. I even admit that some arguing is normal among members but unfortunately what we have seen for years, is a huge proliferation of some skeptic cult with true 'wild' tactics of misinformation, name callings, personal attacks and ultimately, complete deterioration strategy against LRL users when they make posts trying to exchange information.


                              In an ideal forum etiquete, a skeptic is perfectly granted participation, as long as he contributes to the theme, refuting points of views if so, but in a high level and respectful manner.
                              This is not what we have seen here for a long time.
                              Some skeptics remain vociferating their disaproval against LRL users, making use of a discrediting tactic to the point of being personal. Others use this tactic based on a 'supposed' scientific basis to serve as 'evidence' on why LRLs do not work.


                              I have always stated in a forum that a member here owns, about how I never felt like starting a serious discussion about scientific matters involving LRLs simply due to an entire impossibility considering the oriented agenda against them and the prevailing mentality of a few
                              members, including a recently 'in charge' administrator/moderator who rages against LRLs.. Every temptative in the past in even starting a simple discussion ended up in failure, and the ambient more than often always turned into a 'zoo'.
                              Heck, even now there's a long time soviet member who all of a sudden got allucinated and now preaches the complete extinction of all the remote sensing forum, even stating that USA supports fraud, etc.
                              And this guy has never joined the RS forum in his life! He belongs to the schematics forum and all of a sudden he fell from the upper floor and landed down there...
                              Geezz... I really did not expect the increase in LRL sales would disturb some MD manufacturers so soon ...


                              Days ago, this was posted here against myself:
                              It's difficult to discuss any kind of "scientific evidence" with you because you have such strong beliefs in all manners of pseudoscience, and a tendency to fabricate your own terms and definitions to suit your "theories".


                              As I stated already, it was never my intention discussing any substantial scientific matters involving in this case, LRLs, simply because it is not worth it for the previously stated reasons. But the sentence pronounced by someone who proclaims himself 'scientific', contained so much BS and garbage in that it deliberately tries to distort my scientific background that I considered opening an exception in his case that would make this person swallow his own words. So, as from facts there is no 'twisting and dodging', I chose to pick a single one out of the several in existence in the world scientific data bank, including some experiments I know of and some I have even participate on, to objectively ilustrate how idiotic the prevailing attitude of some skeptics here who inconsequently try to use science as a shield against their ignorance or an alibi for things they do not understand is.


                              I asked the skeptics if it was possible to broadcast RF signals through a multidimensional space.
                              No answer.
                              Even after 3 clues, no indication they knew what I was talking about.
                              Why I was not a bit suprised? Simply because had them had access to serious scientific data, and happened to not use their high school physics, the only one they know as their 'wikepedia', they would not be here ranting their 'mambo jambo ' about 'pseudoscience'.
                              I sincerely expect that after introducing this single event and after allowing them some time to 'digest' and realize the HUGE consequences those events had to science, in particular to 'quantum mechanics', skeptics finally become more educated on what is going on out there scientifically speaking, and revise their stupid behaviors in the LRL forum.
                              They can even state they still do not believe in LRLs, do not believe in psychotronics and do not share the same conclusions about the phenomena to be covered here.
                              But they SHALL NEVER again proclaim science they are not up to understand as 'pseudoscience'. If they do, they will be doomed to ridicule. Against FACTS simply there are NO REFUTATIONS.


                              I hope this has become crystal clear to them.


                              ****************
                              "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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