H3Tec discussion

[hung]

Visiting H3Tec's forum today, I stumbled upon a post from somebody that disclose a portion of the factual data that is hidden behind the bait.

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"...Not to mention a lot of industry types who are scared to death of watching their product become obsolete.

I don't know how many of you have done this, but I have ingots of pure silver and silver with alloys, and I've tested my H3 to see how it reacts when set to the different isotope numbers. 107 ignored the ingots and locked on the coins, and 109 ignored the coins and locked on to the ingots.

One thing I can agree with about the guy who said this couldn't be possible: he's no scientist."


Bolds by me.

For the time being, let's leave Carl talking, it's fun.

Eventually we'll reach the epilogue.

[Jim]

As discussed on several other treasure hunting forums, TreasureNet had some hardware failure and the server is down.

In an email from Marc Austin (owner) "First I want to apologize for the downtime. I am doing everything I can to bring the forum back up to full speed. (I never thought we'd be down this long, or I would have written sooner!) I also want to assure you that no messages or images have been lost. This was strictly a hardware - not a software failure. Unfortunately, we need a pretty specific piece of hardware (a RAID card) - and because of the Thanksgiving holiday, we may not get the card until Monday, the 28th."

Jim

[Art3811]

]Hi Jim,

Just a note, maybe for the wise. We have been following you and your talk about our company. It is less than informed, and more than unchallengeable. I’m sorry you have come out to purposely do damage to our company without even accepting an invitation to use the H3, come to our manufacturing facilities and test drive the H3. You have pushed this issue past the point of reason or reconsideration.

Sounds reasonable to me Jim….Unless you are afraid to learn the truth….Art

[WM6]

Sounds reasonable to me Jim….Unless you are afraid to learn the truth….Art

So, independend scientific proven double blind test are not reasonable to you? Who are afraid to learn the truth?

Nice greetings to Hung.

[Jim]

Sounds reasonable to me Jim….Unless you are afraid to learn the truth….Art

Ah yes....you believe a pocket calculator can transmit a special treasure finding beam. I am sure even a Buffalo fart sounds reasonable to you

[Art3811]

So, independend scientific proven double blind test are not reasonable to you?

Carl can not do an impendent scientific double blind test… He is a bias person.
Let's begin by explaining "double blind":
In a Double Blind experiment neither the individuals nor the researchers know who belongs to the control group(placebo group)and who belongs to the experimental group.
The researchers and the individuals only get to know who is in what group only after ALL the data has been recorded.
This eliminates bias (whether intentional or not) from the researchers and the individuals and it eliminates any "Placebo-effect" bias”
Carl is not qualified because of his own Bias….
How do you know that this Company has not done a Double Blind Test on their products? I have preformed many double blind studies of my own tools….I am bias and I know that but the tests confirm to me that they do perform. After all…The owner/ user makes the decisions as to how well the tool works…Art

[Art3811]

Ah yes....you believe a pocket calculator can transmit a special treasure finding beam. I am sure even a Buffalo fart sounds reasonable to you

I know that for a fact “Jim”. A pocket calculator will find gold at a distance of ¼ mile buried at one foot deep. .Since your the expert on everything…Please tell us if it sounds like a Double Blind Test?

[Theseus]

Carl is not qualified because of his own Bias…. How do you know that this Company has not done a Double Blind Test on their products?

That's funny, Art. First you say Carl is not qualified to conduct a DB test because of bias; then you say; "How do you know that company has not done a DB test on their products?

I guess if they have done a DB test on their products, it would of course be disqualified because of their bias.

Guess you shot yourself in the foot on that one, dipstick. Probably it would be better if you didn't try to help H3Tec, they have enough problems right now as it is; they don't need you making things even worse.

I have preformed many double blind studies of my own tools….

What a laugh! You wouldn't know a true DB test from apple butter. If that isn't obvious, just look at the videos you've posted on YT.

Tnet is supposed to have their new hardware installed, maybe by Friday or Saturday, so you can return soon to the funny farm over there.

[Art3811]

---Quote (Originally by Art3811)---
Carl is not qualified because of his own Bias…. How do you know that this Company has not done a Double Blind Test on their products?
---End Quote---
That's funny, Art. First you say Carl is not qualified to conduct a DB test because of bias; then you say; "How do you know that company has not done a DB test on their products?

Double Talk Experts…You people have no answers…No I have never used one of these devices….I do not know how well it works. None of you know how well it works….Yes…I will return to T-Net soon. Tell Carl…I am still waiting on the $25,000 he owes me….Art

[Carl-NC]

Carl can not do an impendent scientific double blind test… He is a bias person.

Maybe you missed the part where I said:

I can arrange such a test with Sandia National Labs, which has extensive experience in testing these kinds of devices.

Tell Carl…I am still waiting on the $25,000 he owes me….

Like H3Tec, you've refused my offers to put your claims to a proper test. The offer is still open! But I'm guessing you will continue to refuse. Cain't do it. Just like H3Tec.

- Carl

[hung]

As I said, let Carl talks...

His idiotic 'challenge' or whatever has been discussed long ago, but...
But I think he may have a growing autism problem, as lots of LRL users already told him that and everyone knows there are clauses in his 'challenge', that simply can't be met.

This nonsense is a bad replica of his idol's, Randi, a liar, charlatan and other things altogether which I don't even remember or care to remember that he always states of himself.

Any serious contender knows both are hoaxes created for self promotion and help to deviate annoying issues. In Randi's case according to newspapers, problems with pedophily.
In Carl's, interests and worries of the group he represents at the growing LRL dissemination in contrast with the obsolete technology of ordinary metal detectors.

Even that his test was fair, it's completely irrelevant.

He seems to have a problem in comprehending or accepting that. He keeps refering to it as some religious preachers in Public Squares.
The serious THers and LRL users own the LRL as a tool to find treasure and generally they avoid publicity.

If Carl or SWR were really serious about knowing the technology of H3TEC, they would have traveled there and would have personally tested one unit. They were both invited and both declined. This alone shows how serious they are. Actually they have no intention whatsoever to know the truth.
Case closed in this matter for me.

Keep on talking Carl.
Actually with the current status of things underway, you do need to talk.

[WM6]

Even that his test was fair, it's completely irrelevant.

Irrelevant for you and crime producers. But not irrelevant for buyers, public and legal authorities.

[Qiaozhi]

As I said, let Carl talks...

His idiotic 'challenge' ... blah, blah, blah ...
Keep on talking Carl.
Actually with the current status of things underway, you do need to talk.

As Theseus stated previously in response to Art, and this certainly applies to you:
Probably it would be better if you didn't try to help H3Tec, they have enough problems right now as it is; they don't need you making things even worse.

Hopefully the TreasureNet forums will restored in the near future, and the LRL members of the funny farm can all go back to their usual place of residence.

[Jim]

I find it highly amusing how the LRL proponents whine and complain about how Carl and SWR (that's me) refuse to travel to Utah for a "demonstration" of the H3 device.

However....when Carl and SWR request a professionally administered double-blind test...for which they WILL travel for....it is constantly refused.

NO "hung".....I will not be traveling to Utah to watch somebody utilize the H3 dowsing device. I have already watched H3 giving a dowsing demonstration on their promotional video.

Yes "Art"...I know the truth. I know the requirements to manipulate atoms/molecules. Waving or pointing the hand held H3 Tricorder does not meet those requirements. Same applies for your pocket calculator.

[hung]

No whining at all.
Not only you refused this invitation for a demonstration. You also refused others from LRL users.
I just hope the TNET site gets back soon with all your original posts intact, so people in this forum get to know you better and the way you are treated there by LRL and even non LRL promponents.

By the way, how this ended? If ever ended...

http://www.voy.com/92635/632.html