H3Tec discussion

[hung]

Art is the one who kindly gave tips to some unfortunate member here who claimed to have lost all his nervous system and thus he believes ha can't use a Rangertell. As a result from his well known character, he strikes again with irony against someone who cared to help him.

No wonder he is one of the trademarks of Geoskepthic forums.

[hung]

Carl dowsing in video

In fact, Art gave many lessons also to Carl about dowsing. In public, Carl denies it, but here we can see how well he learned those lessons.
Amazing how he has everything right in his explanations in the video. Law of charges, atraction , induced polarization.
Maybe when he goes to forums to post his nonsense about the science involved, or better, does not post anything regarding the real science behind it, would it be a deliberate act to confuse his fellow skepthic peers?

Humm... This remains a mistery...
Check...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UMab3sOu3c

What do you guys think?

[WM6]

What do you guys think?

Funny thumb manipulation tricks to impress dummies.

[Art3811]

Be factual. If you make an extraordinary claim, be prepared to get challenged".

So what have I said that was not factual?

So are any of the Tnet dowsers and users of LRLs willing to demonstrate their ability to find an object that a skeptic hides?

Happens all the time…Art

[Art3811]

If anyone here wants to try a Blind test with their equipment this is how I do mine
This is my version of a Blind test. I use halves of 6 Plastic Easter eggs and a coin. I give my wife the coin and she goes out the back door and I stay inside while she places the coin under one of the egg halves. She then goes around the house and knocks on the front door. I go out, not having any contact with her. I start Locating thinking of anything else except for the Rods. Sometimes it is what I'm going to do tomorrow or a movie I saw the night before. I locate the coin, go in the house and give it to the wife and start over again. I make 10 to 15 passes and then take a break. My results are all ways the same. I find the coin every time.

When I do the test and I think about finding the coin my results are different. The best was 60% finds but the usual is between 30% and 50% finds. I have done this test more than 20 times.

Why do I do these test? To see if I am still doing it right. I refuse to let the Ideomotor Effects control my rods UNLESS I want it to. When I test in my backyard I know that some mystery signal from a SUV will not block my signals. ..Art

[Theseus]

You poor deluded individual.

[Jim]

Thank God I finally found the IGNORE feature!

No more Art!

[J_Player]

Be factual. If you make an extraordinary claim, be prepared to get challenged".

Originally posted by Art3811
So what have I said that was not factual?

Originally posted by J_Player
So are any of the Tnet dowsers and users of LRLs willing to demonstrate their ability to find an object that a skeptic hides?

Originally posted by Art3811
Happens all the time…Art

Is what you said factual? I don't have a clue. But we can all find out with a simple test. You can try Carl's test with a silver dollar hidden under one of ten pieces of plywood, or try my simpler test where you show how well you can locate an object I hide. After seeing how well you perform when others from outside your home are watching, we will have a clear idea of how factual the things you have been telling us actually are. If your dowsing abilities are really working, why not arrange to have a skeptic hide an object for you to find. If you can't do it, it's ok. We will understand.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

All of this Tnet diatribe and HungScience might mean something if a single one of the dowsers or LRL users would show their skills at finding an object a skeptic hides.
But seeing the reality of the strength of the LRL/dowsers convictions, their diatribe and HungScience will remain meaningless in the real world.
These whining fools are not capable of passing a simple test to show what locating skills they have or do not have.
And we continue to drag ourselves through the sludge of these whiners ... all because of a hardware problem on someone Else's server.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Art,
Remember, there's no DJ, JudyH or Eddie here for a high level discussion.
So don't ever expect anything above average regarding these matters in this forum.
Don't worry. It's only temporary and soon TNET will be back again.

... and it must be a really high level discussion, especially with this lot in the group.
ROTFL

[hung]

All of this Tnet diatribe and HungScience might mean something if a single one of the dowsers or LRL users would show their skills at finding an object a skeptic hides.
But seeing the reality of the strength of the LRL/dowsers convictions, their diatribe and HungScience will remain meaningless in the real world.
These whining fools are not capable of passing a simple test to show what locating skills they have or do not have.
And we continue to drag ourselves through the sludge of these whiners ... all because of a hardware problem on someone Else's server.

Best wishes,
J_P

Upset?
Don't be.
In this world we have two groups. The ones who can. Aaand... The ones who can't.
You are from the second row.
But everything in this life is temporary and it's never too late to learn, even if the entire process ends in your next life.

Talking about truthness...
Randi states he is a charlatan, a fake and a liar altogether.
Thanks to the PD's case, we found that you at least meet the last requirement in this list.

PS. Why are you complaining? You should be thankful to Art and me. If Esteban and I remain away from this saloon, it remains dead as a cemetery.
We bring activity here.
Of course all the technical and scientific aspects or LRLs are only discussed in private groups with chosen members and some also over TNET.
What did you expect? To discuss something more substantial with the mambo boys here?
Sorry, but this is just asking too much!
Have a nice day.

[WM6]

In this world we have two groups. The ones who can. Aaand... The ones who can't.


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Correct.

You are from the second row.

You are from the ones who can't give to publicity scientificaly proven evidence that dowsing creations promoted by you & Co are working according seller claims.

[Qiaozhi]

If anyone here wants to try a Blind test with their equipment this is how I do mine
This is my version of a Blind test.

Exactly ... "my version" ... which is clearly full of ways to either consciously or unconsciously bias the results.

I use halves of 6 Plastic Easter eggs and a coin. I give my wife the coin and she goes out the back door and I stay inside while she places the coin under one of the egg halves. She then goes around the house and knocks on the front door. I go out, not having any contact with her. I start Locating thinking of anything else except for the Rods. Sometimes it is what I'm going to do tomorrow or a movie I saw the night before. I locate the coin, go in the house and give it to the wife and start over again. I make 10 to 15 passes and then take a break. My results are all ways the same. I find the coin every time.

Try performing the test correctly and you will then discover the results are no better than guessing. Or keep your head in the sand in case the results destroy your precious belief system. It's up to you - fact or fiction - which will you choose?

When I do the test and I think about finding the coin my results are different. The best was 60% finds but the usual is between 30% and 50% finds. I have done this test more than 20 times.

I wonder why?

Why do I do these test? To see if I am still doing it right. I refuse to let the Ideomotor Effects control my rods UNLESS I want it to. When I test in my backyard I know that some mystery signal from a SUV will not block my signals. ..Art

The only reason you do these tests is to confirm your erroneous belief system. One thing is for sure, it is not to discover the truth. That would hurt too much.

By the way, next time you go out with your L-rods, try searching for a spelling and grammar checker.

[hung]

Hey Art, how do you like Ted's weirdo lookalike above?

[Theseus]

[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]Exactly ... "my version" ... which is clearly full of ways to either consciously or unconsciously bias the results.

[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]Try performing the test correctly and you will then discover the results are no better than guessing. Or keep your head in the sand in case the results destroy your precious belief system. It's up to you - fact or fiction - which will you choose?


I wonder why?


[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]The only reason you do these tests is to confirm your erroneous belief system. One thing is for sure, it is not to discover the truth. That would hurt too much.

By the way, next time you go out with your L-rods, try searching for a spelling and grammar checker.

Art likes keeping his head in the sand.... his whirly-gig rods work better for him that way. He can't find a spelling and grammar checker because he can't spell the words spelling and grammar.