MINERO

[Carl-NC]

...Mineoro detectors are finely crafted precision instruments which are able to classify the ions of gold and detect it.

They could "classify" the ions, only if the ions could enter the chamber. Which they cannot, because it's sealed. So, regardless of what else might be going on with the Mineoro, it is NOT classifying gold ions.

Also one thing I learned from Damasio is that he's not worried at all about people trying to dismantle the device to see how it works or trying to copy it. There are components inside that no one will ever know how it works or what it is for, except the inventor himself.

Not at all... the unit I opened had nothing but standard, off-the-shelf components, and easily could be duplicated. I saw no point in doing so, since the device was unable to detect gold, but apparently someone in Germany HAS duplicated the Mineoro, not for the purpose of detecting gold, but for generating sales.

- Carl

[Carl-NC]

When Dell asked for internal photos of the PDC, I completely forgot about the "Center and Deep" accessory that came with it. It is a dowsing rod. Nothing more. Inside, there is a wood dowel with a piece of wire spiral-wrapped around it. This wire is not connected to anything.

In my opinion, this confirms that the Mineoro units are a fraud. If they did work as claimed, then there would be no need to include bogus nonsense like a dowsing rod.

- Carl

[hung]

They could "classify" the ions, only if the ions could enter the chamber. Which they cannot, because it's sealed. So, regardless of what else might be going on with the Mineoro, it is NOT classifying gold ions.

If you've read mineoro greece's detailed explanation of the working principle of the ionic chamber above, you've learned that as the ionic chamber has a gold leaf inside, the sonic pulse charges it with positive ions and as soon it encounters its negative counterpart, a crash in nano level occurs.
Yes the ions do penetrate in the chamber thorugh electrostatic flow. Remember it's made of PVC. And yes they do classify the ions. If this method was of public domain then everybody would be building its own PDC or whatever.

[hung]

In my opinion, this confirms that the Mineoro units are a fraud. If they did work as claimed, then there would be no need to include bogus nonsense like a dowsing rod.

When I was there, I was told they are waiting your reply about conducting the tests in Brazil. Damasio has health problems and I don't think he could make the trip to US.
So, grab your sunscreen, swiming suit and come over here to enjoy the beautiful beaches. I will be in the first row to watch the contest.

[Carl-NC]

Yes the ions do penetrate in the chamber thorugh electrostatic flow. Remember it's made of PVC.

So you're saying that gold atoms outside the PVC, can magically appear inside the PVC, by "electrostatic flow"? Sounds "too good to be true", eh?

As I mentioned before, this bring up another problem... how does the PDC know WHERE the ions came from? How can it be directional? Wind could have blown the ions all over the place. Please don't tell me that ions leave the buried gold, and fly out in a straight line until they hit the PDC... I know better.

And yes they do classify the ions. If this method was of public domain then everybody would be building its own PDC or whatever.

The PDC I looked at has nowhere near the circuitry needed to classify ions. I'm absolutely convinced, per my electronics background, and according to what I found inside the PDC, that it definitely does not classify ions.

When I was there, I was told they are waiting your reply about conducting the tests in Brazil.

Despite their blocking my emails, I did reply... the last thing I heard was an email from Patricia:

Mr. Damásio was not in office the past two days. Though we talked over the phone and he told me we were going to present a test method, as you described in your site is one of the manufacturers options "For manufacturers, I will still intertain other protocol suggestions. In those cases, it is up to the manufacturer to specify what his device can do, and to what extent, and to specify a test method that will demostrate the claimed capabilities."

Next week we will be forwarding it for your study.

Regards,

MINEORO LONG RANGE DIRECTIONAL DETECTORS
Patricia C.
International Sales

That was July 29. Ball's in their court.

- Carl

[Dunderhead]

clueless

Carl,

Me thinks up way to scammer you money for me. I makes gieger tube go and then radioactives gold with radioactiv substances with alphie particles to go far and then I can always find. you can't not find later but I can always find and show you how I can find my double blinded gold.

[Dunderhead]

clueless

I find circuit for device for detect radiosubstances need 500 volts supply source for detect tube to arc in tube with xenon gas of ionic containment with energy passage of radioparticles.

http://www.imagesco.com/articles/geiger/04.html

[Carl-NC]

Me thinks up way to scammer you money for me. I makes gieger tube go and then radioactives gold with radioactiv substances with alphie particles to go far and then I can always find. you can't not find later but I can always find and show you how I can find my double blinded gold.

Yup, except the rules explicitly forbid radiation (radioactivity) detectors.

I find circuit for device for detect radiosubstances need 500 volts supply source for detect tube to arc in tube with xenon gas of ionic containment with energy passage of radioparticles.

Yup again, radiation can penetrate solid substances, because the particles are much smaller than the molecular structure of the solid. Ions -- especially a big atom like gold -- cannot penetrate a solid such as PVC.

- Carl

[Dunderhead]

clueless

Carl,

Ah, you have are smart rule can see forward looking.

black box high volts power soucer for detector tube?

tests with radiosoucers?

[Carl-NC]

Ah, you have are smart rule can see forward looking.

black box high volts power soucer for detector tube?

tests with radiosoucers?

No, the black box does not generate a high voltage... the Mineoro has no high voltages anywhere.

- Carl

[nncunew]

Esteban

Amigo, veo que eres muy ducho en los temas de los LRL... yo aquí pasando tremendo trabajo con el inglés.

Oye, tu pudieras mandarme algo sobre LRL, por ejemplo algún esquema que me permita hacer experimentos que muestren este tema de los LRL. Algún plano de equipo que encuentre algo a distancia, aunque sea grande...

Cambiando el tema, hice una mezcla de detectores y he dado el primer paso en este tema de los PI, hice una antena de 8.2 inchs y 20awg con 28 turns, me ha salido un equipo con una LM 709 de preamplificador, pero solo obtengo una lata de refresco a unos 40 a 45 cm... y suena muy feo, quizás se te ocurra que debo hacer algo.

Saludos

nncunew@yahoo.com

[Carl-NC]

Experimenting with LRLs is tricky business, it's very easy to get caught up in self-deception. Right now, I know of no instrument that will find treasure at a distance, at least the kind of instrument treasure hunters are dreaming of.

Regarding your PI, I don't know... the coil sounds OK, the LM709 should work (I think)... it could be your transmit pulse width, or the sample delay, or something in the gain stages. You would need to provide more information.

- Carl

[Esteban]

I prefer the words directional electronic metal detector for completely electronic type machine, because the terminology LRL remember dowsing...

The photos I post are, maybe, the only proofs on the world about directional metal detector. All the photos are real, and I have many negative films of these.

Respect the PI, nncunew want a more good audio generator for his PI, maybe a VCO type.

[Carl-NC]

Posting pics of people holding gadgets, really isn't proof of the existence of a working LRL... What I would like to see, and try, are experiments that objectively demonstrate a workable concept. As soon as I see evidence that I (or anyone else) can personally replicate, then I will temper my skepticism.

- Carl

[Dmitriy]

Guest

Hello, Carl.
Sorry, my English isn't correct.
What do you think about MINEORO's device and Bionic 01 from OKM Gmbh?
Do you know correct research these devices?
Thanks.