Vertex Adroit

[egigo]

In the manual it say's "This technology works by sending specialized frequencies aimed at stimulating the electrostatic fields that form around buried metals due to their prolonged presence underground over long periods of time. These fields are genrated by the continuous interaction between metals and the surrounding environmental conditions over the years. This interaction causes the accumulation of electrostatic charges around the metals, allowing the device to detect them. This system is used in open areas or deserts where radio transmission waves do not reach" So it doesn't detect newly buried metals correct? Does anyone tested this LRL it seems good to me? does it work? Thnks

[Mike(Mont)]

Many LRL manufacturers say for long time buried objects. But then say it still works on fresh dropped items only not as good. Now this is different from the ionic mode—some say it has to be buried 500 years! Others say at least 15 years. So there is some confusion about this whether they are referring to ionic or to LRL. But my experience with the Adroit is it does not detect fresh dropped items very well at all in the ADRI automatic mode.
There are other locators on the market that use bionic mode—these detect fresh dropped items. Like Geo Ground Gold Legend ($3300) or Gold Vision, or Mega Detection Mega Scan Pro, or OKM Delta Ranger Light or Delta Ranger Pro. My guess is OKM is superior but also very expensive $10,000 for the Light version and over $15,000 for the Pro version ( comes with magnetometer, thermal scanner, and 3d scanner). There are some YouTube videos showing the bionic mode. I don’t know how well
they really work. Some say they pick up mineralization. Probably best chance is OKM. They have been building bionic devices for many years.

People have asked me if I recommend the Adroit I say I am uncomfortable doing so. Mainly because I have a big metal rod in my leg and I have not had any success with the ionic mode. But I have not done much searching with it so I can’t say for sure. When I found that gold and sapphire ring, my first attempt the pinpoint was off a little ways. In a city park with my rusty metal detecting skills I did not find it the first day. I went back and tried again and found it. Out in the country this might not be an issue and there are few trash items but in a city park it’s not easy to sift through all the aluminum pieces that mimic gold. Since then the same situation occurred— my pinpoint was off and I went back later and found another ring 10k opal and amethyst. It took a lot of work.

[Mike(Mont)]

I guess I should say anyone who thinks they can buy a locator and go to a city park and find a bunch of gold is in for a rude awakening. It’s going to take many hours learning to use the device and then it’s not easy to find anything in a city park. Thousands and thousands of aluminum pull tabs, pull rings, aluminum foil, can slaw. Pretty much need excellent metal detector skills to even have a chance and then it’s hours of work you might find anything or just a cheap 10k ring if you are lucky. Many areas do not have enough traffic for there to be any lost gold. And others have been picked clean. There’s a big city park here I’ve never found any gold except one unmarked low karat ring and only a few pieces of silver and I spent well over a hundred hours with a metal detector and a few hours with a long range locator. I’ve never even bothered to take the Adroit there.

im not saying don’t try it, just prepare for a lot of work and a lot of let-downs. But maybe you get lucky. Once you find some gold it gives you hope to find more. If it was easy all the gold would be gone. If you are finding nickels it’s a chance there could be some gold there. The price of gold today there is not much being lost.

[Mike(Mont)]

Must be close to a month since I last went out with the Adroit. I did take it to a friends house just to show him and it gave a point for gold but I did not follow it. It went to his bedroom.

I’m slowly healing from my melanoma surgery on my arm. I go in tomorrow to get the sutures removed. It’s already split some so I’m going to have to keep it taped up so it doesn’t look like a hotdog on a bbq. I could go out and find some pinpoints but I know if I tried any digging in hard soil I’d do damage to it. So it could be a month or more before I can do any digging. But I’m happy to be alive and not having to go through immunotherapy. I guess I need to practice around my yard so my skills don’t get too rusty. Not much skill involved in the automatic mode ADRI. You just aim it at the search area and watch it work.

[Mike(Mont)]

I don’t know why I thought about this but the Adroit video says it uses 868 MHz frequency. There are several other type devices that use this frequency. So I checked the wavelength and I think it was 13.59 inches (34.5 cm). I measured the short antenna and it was slightly longer than this maybe 1/2 inch longer (36 cm). So I shortened it a little bit. Does it make a difference? I don’t know, possibly. I was practicing in my yard today with the MDRI manual mode and it was hitting a silver ring pretty good. Like I said I walk an east/west direction staying north of the search area and position the antenna maybe 30 degrees towards the south direction. I can catch the north/south line to the target fairly accurately.

I see you can buy an 868 MHz receiver chip but I’m just not that motivated to mess with it right now. But someday I might get the notion to see what happens. It might be useful to check for interference.

I got my sutures out on Wednesday and the doctor said didn’t think it would split open, but they put some tape on it anyway at my request. No sense taking any chances because I’m kinda active and really don’t think about it before I grab something too tightly. Even just opening a stubborn jar or pill bottle could cause trouble. As it is there is still a couple areas open wound. I took the tape off and it started bleeding. Easily a month before I feel comfortable with it.

[Mike(Mont)]

Like I said I do not feel comfortable recommending the Adroit but if you feel you have to buy a locator the Adroit is half the price of anything else out there for what you get. And I do like the ADRI automatic mode. It beeps and vibrates when you are aimed at the target. The MDRI manual mode is a bit more challenging. But if you spend several hours with a test target I think most people can learn it if you stick with it.

The biggest problem I see with this type locator is the wind. I don’t know how much wind is too much but if it blows the antenna around then obviously it is too strong. Typically you can get light wind early or late in the day. 2:30 PM is usually considered the windiest time of the day but it depends on the time of the year and any weather patterns/fronts. Yeah, I got frustrated with it this Spring—it was too cold to go out early in the day and when it warmed up enough it was too windy around here in the Great Plains. And closer to the mountains even more wind.

That’s why I talk about the bionic locators because you just aim it at the search area and no need for good balance. But be careful as most of them do not work in damp ground. The only one I know that does is the OKM Delta Ranger. The “light” version is $5,000 less cost but it’s still $10,000 dollars and I really don’t hear about many recoveries with it. So I don’t know. I did see one video said 2,000 meters range so that is plenty good. I guess if I was working I could afford to make payments on one. Really depends on how serious you are. One thing about it is there is no swinging antenna, just aim and listen/watch for the response.

Well, best of luck to everyone. I really think these locators are the way to go.