Testing

[Fred]

Indeed, each one of us has his/her own time for awakening. Yours have not come yet, but eventualy it will as evolution always takes its course.

I really like your sense of humor
Too bad you´r in the wrong forum.Here it´s metal prospecting you know...

[Max]

Hi Qiaozhi

You look to me very inteligent and calm person,please not become so skeptic . Try to understand how this phenomenon works,why this phenomenon exist,and not have doubt about one reality comfirmed by many people.
You can be sure this PHENOMENON create by underground metals EXIST !

Regards

Hi,
if so, and you're so sure... why don't you try to describe it... from any point of view like these: static voltage ? dc current ? rf hum ? ions ? infrared ? ultrasonics ? whateveryouwant ?

Try... we'll listen to you...if arguments will give something interesting to investigate!

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
You describe the machine of 3 antennas designed to enlarge a short signal a million times, so it is capable of capturing emissions. What kind of short signal is this machine designed to capture?
A charge in the air?
A radio signal?
A magnetic fluctuation signal?
Current leaking through an insulator?
HF noise like from sparks?
Ground current anomalies?
Voltage gradients?
X-rays?

Maybe this machine responds to all of the things I listed, or some of them. But How does this prove that there are emissions, rather than absorption? Isn't it possible that it is responding to something that is neither an emission or absorption?

Perhaps posting the schematic for this machine would help to show what kind of signal it is capable of enlarging.

Best wishes,
J_P

J_P:

At the end, is variation of voltage or magnetic field or the both at same time, but only items buried for long time is capable for to present the phenomenon, except if the target is directly over the sand and exposed at light of Sun, this is, hot. Near the surface is more ease to detect.

I remember that a friend (he is no technician, just treasure hunter, but intelligent person) leave at Sun a piece of medium size copper plate. 1 hour later, the plate is hot (here the Sun is strong). He adjust the pistol (in this case IB + RF detector) and detect at sight at 2 meters. When quite the plate, detection dissapears. I learn this from him.

A day, I was searching with pistol and obtain many beeps with continuity. I watch in the soil and saw over the sand (exposed at Sun) a 1/4 coin (cutted), silver. When quite the metal of the site detection dissapears, no trick of the mind.

Similar occurs with a bronze 1944 coin (exposed at Sun over the sand in a stream) and a piece of copper wire, green, so many "coincidences"...

Maybe my language is not the scientifically enough for to convince you. But you have the luck that I manage "some English".

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

The PD is the only LRL that holds any interest for me. All the other devices based on dowsing nonsense, such as the RT Examiner and Omnitron, are just junk.
However, I remain to be convinced of the PHENOMENON. At this time it still seems to be a trick of the mnd.

What double-blind testing have you done to make absolutely certain you are not actually fooling yourself into believing something that is not true?
You have to admit that human beings do have a remarkable capacity for self-deception.

Will be trick of mind if you don't CONTRAST with different pistols, 3 antennas, IB, absorptive (toroidal coil, receiver), etc., and obtain the beeps only in the site and you move and "attack" from all directions for to find the best position and found the target, is not trick of mind.

I'm the first person who don't wish to auto-lie.

[Qiaozhi]

I remember that a friend (he is no technician, just treasure hunter, but intelligent person) leave at Sun a piece of medium size copper plate. 1 hour later, the plate is hot (here the Sun is strong). He adjust the pistol (in this case IB + RF detector) and detect at sight at 2 meters. When quite the plate, detection dissapears. I learn this from him.

A day, I was searching with pistol and obtain many beeps with continuity. I watch in the soil and saw over the sand (exposed at Sun) a 1/4 coin (cutted), silver. When quite the metal of the site detection dissapears, no trick of the mind.

Your English is very understandable, but I don't understand what you're saying above (in red). Do you mean "quiet". If so, in what way is it quiet?

[Fred]

Your English is very understandable, but I don't understand what you're saying above (in red). Do you mean "quiet". If so, in what way is it quiet?

No, it´s "remove" , from "quitar", to remove.

[Morgan]

PD LRL detection

The PD is the only LRL that holds any interest for me. All the other devices based on dowsing nonsense, such as the RT Examiner and Omnitron, are just junk.
However, I remain to be convinced of the PHENOMENON. At this time it still seems to be a trick of the mnd.

What double-blind testing have you done to make absolutely certain you are not actually fooling yourself into believing something that is not true?
You have to admit that human beings do have a remarkable capacity for self-deception.

I know that,but hundreds of targets i have found with PD,and like Esteban,i also studing the PHENOMENON.

[Morgan]

PD

Hi,
if so, and you're so sure... why don't you try to describe it... from any point of view like these: static voltage ? dc current ? rf hum ? ions ? infrared ? ultrasonics ? whateveryouwant ?

Try... we'll listen to you...if arguments will give something interesting to investigate!

Kind regards,
Max

I simplificate those things,it exist emission of energy from high conductive buried metals,and Pistoldetektor detect this emissions(only if well tuned Omega+Ferrite),when the target is a big conductive mass(example of my 300 silver coins i have recently found) the PD detects at 15 m,but when near the spot,it overload the circuits,probably very big signal emanations,thats what i know.
If even during 20 years Esteban not understand completly the PHENOMENON,what i can tell to you about it ???

[Qiaozhi]

No, it´s "remove" , from "quitar", to remove.

Thanks Fred.
Now it makes sense.

[Qiaozhi]

I know that,but hundreds of targets i have found with PD,and like Esteban,i also studing the PHENOMENON.

That sounds quite impressive, considering you have not had the PD working properly for very long.

What are the "hundreds of targets" you have found, and at what depth?
I'm more interested in the depth, rather than saying that the target was first detected 10m away.

[Qiaozhi]

"Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

I guess it's time for you to change your signature from "debunkering" to "debunking", which was clearly the original intention.

With so many hints, it's surprising that you didn't get the message.

[Max]

I guess it's time for you to change your signature from "debunkering" to "debunking", which was clearly the original intention.

With so many hints, it's surprising that you didn't get the message.

Sure he can't get the message... you have to speak his language... or her language... confusing stuff!

Do you understand which is that language ??? It starts with G!

Didn't you look at picture above...

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

I miss RObert in this thread

[Max]

I miss RObert in this thread

Well... he probably would write not just the initial letter "G" but GAIL !

You know... people that don't see use BRAILLE... other people could use something else...

I miss Robert too... now!

OK... but all that story what have to do with Remote Sensing ???

I think better to stop right now... and focus on real DEBUNKERING.

Hung what about your transistors ??? Still burnt ???

I don't understand how the hell you made a working PD with LRL capability and other people here don't.... please explain!

Kind regards,
Max

[Carl-NC]

I have cleaned out the nonsense posts from this thread, because things were rapidly degenerating toward incivility.

LRL discussions tend to be pretty animated, and I try to give both sides a little extra leeway so I'm not constantly deleting posts. Please stick to the topic at hand and cut out the personal jabs. Everyone.

Thanks,
Carl