Zahori mods. - Some considerations

[detectoman]

hola esteban
gusto de verlo de nuevo por aqui

oye esteban yo soy un partidiario de que el futuro de los detectores debe estar en los de largo alcance
y se que si es posible a que se puedan construir pronto algunos modelos muy utiles
es cierto que cuanto mas sofisticado esta un aparato, tiene mas inconvenientes para su funcionamiento, pues aqui estamos hablando ya de grandes fuentes de energia, y asi deben de existir muchos diferentes metodos de lograrlo, los unos mas eficaces que otros pero todos con sus pros y en contra
yo he estado experimentando en el poco tiempo que tengo disponible con varios proyectos, y muchos los he tenido que desarmar debido a los inconvenientes, pues los mas son muy suceptibles a la estatica o a la atmosfera
lo ideal seria una antena que fuera muy estable y que supiera diferenciar, tal circuito no deberia ser muy complicado
he hecho muchos intentos y todos adolecen de lo mismo, su inestabilidad
pero es posible, y tambien tiene que ver mucho el tipo de procedimiento empleado, algunos como antenas radiales, otros como en desbalance, otros como proyectando, y algunos muy sensibles receptores a los cambios, pero yo creo que lo ideal seria el enfoque directo, y que no fuera afectado por nada
es cierto que todo metal irradia su propio campo
y que son diferentes longitudes de alcance
y que tambien depende mucho del suelo adyacente
y que tiene mucho que ver el tipo de componentes
yo creo que lo mas estable serian las valvulas o los mecanismos antiguos
y que debe de ser? que la senal vaya al encuentro o que espere la emision?
yo he hecho muchas pruebas, y he desbaratado algunos detectores
y he conseguido logros pero no estoy conforme
se precisa de un detector basico y efectivo, y que aunque no sea de mucho alcance sea preciso
en cuanto a frecuencias yo creo eso es muy discutible
y en el esfuerzo de los bfos estos son muy versatiles, pero su alcance no es mucho, es cierto dan muchas sorpresas
no es posible separar las tegnologias antiguas y modernas
son las antiguas en muchos aspectos mejores, y ambas se complementan
espero poder un dia de estos desarrollar un mediano detector, practico pequeno y estable
por lo pronto estoy experimentando con otros, con bfos, con dualopams, y despues con pi, el campo es muy extenso y creo que tu has dado en lo mas mejor, el enfocarte en solo estos, y se que son la vanguardia, y un dia quizas los demas detectores de plato queden obsoletos,
un detecor simple, liviano y eficaz
un abrazo hermano y felicidades por tus investigaciones compartidas
detectoman mexico

[J_Player]

Hi esteban,

That was an excellent description of how you think it works. Thank you.

the oscillator of the MD anulls the field.

This almost sounds like using an AC electromagnet to demagnetize. It makes me wonder if there is a magnetized component in the location of the target that is demagnetized when a detector coil is passed over the area.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Hola amigo Detectoman

Tanto tiempo. En fin me preguntan algunas cosas y trato de responder lo mejor que puedo. Además, de repente me acuerdo de cosas y voy relatando. porque yo mucho ya he visto, sobre todo gracias al señor Víctor Alonso, que me ha enseñado bastante, pero no todo, pues él también guarda algunos secretos, y creo que está bien que sea así, yo respeto su decisión en cuanto a su prudencia en este aspecto.

En cuanto a sus apreciaciones respecto a las diferentes posibilidades y estados propicios o no propicios para detectar y que influencian sobremanera al fenómeno, usted tiene razón en todo ello, más aún si ya ha hecho algunas pruebas y, por lo tanto, tiene conocimiento acabado de lo que pasa o puede ocurrir.

Un abrazo querido hermano y mucha suerte en tus emprendimientos e investigaciones.

[Geo]

One time, my brother-in-law use my Zahori and go in a site they saw as a light emanated from the soil. They saw it 30 years ago. They arrive in the site and found a hole excavated for others, and the device beeps and beeps, only in the place, but NEAR the hole. The persons who previously excavated don't found the treasure. My brother-in-law and others can't excavate in the place because the signal "explode" around the hole, and can't centrate. Also the landlord, a rich man, don't wish to continue in it!

IC 3130 (input) BURN here! Treasure = energy!

Don't know if is better than my new experimental devices, only I know go depth.

Hi Esteban
So the energy is very strong and this is the phenomenon that we must looking for ???????
Regards

Btw .... do you received an email from me before somo days ago ?????

[J_Player]

IC 3130 (input) BURN here! Treasure = energy!

So the energy is very strong and this is the phenomenon that we must looking for ???????

Hi esteban,

Is the location where the 3130 burned far away from all electrical noise, or is it close to power lines and microwave transmitters? What was the temperature of the LRL box when it burned? Hot from sun or not very hot?

I try to understand if it is possible the 3130 burned from High temperature or from high power noise source, or if the treasure signal is the reason for the burned IC.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

End of the truce

I check my old PCB and found an only error regarding 1 nF cap, really is 10 nF. In other words, frequency is 100 Hz or near 100 Hz in pin 3 of the 7555 (or NE555).

Respect Ivconic's implementation, no necessary all the switches and caps. Only a 10 K pot. and switches for batteries. This pot. acts as sensibility control as a threshold adjustment. No need more.

My alterations are:

1. 3 telescopic antennas. Plates collects more interference and shows capacitance. Laterals antennas to 0 V. Laterals open 40-45 cm and central 60-65 cm.

2. Variable 2M2 preset replaced for fix resistor of same value.

3. Eliminated 100 K resistor in serie with 2M2 preset replaced, now fix.

4. Eliminated both switches S1 and S2, wich select for search electricity in walls and water flows.

5. The point 4 mean that only 10 nF is connected between pins 2-6 to negative.

6. Pin 9 of the 4066 no connected.

7. Eliminated visual section and replaced by trafo.

8. 22 K variable resistor (volume) replaced for fix 22 K.

Hi,
ALL BS. The article doesn't say anything of mods required to find water flows!

PURE BS. AS ALWAYS.

The THING doesn't work and end of the story dear Esteban.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

About text, translation by Qiaozhi has few readers. Near 600 in difference who looks images. Here:

Hi,
I've downloaded the instruction translation, read them all, built device and used as explained.

RESULT: NOTHING.

DOESN'T WORK DETECTING WATER FLOWS.

IT DETECT IONIZED PARTICLES FOR SURE AND EVERY AC FIELD, OF COURSE.

BUT NO WATER FLOW !

So it doesn't work for water and metals like you said.
That's the problem.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Hi esteban,

Is there some application for treasure hunting where the zahori will find treasure better than your new experimental coil model LRL that you are testing?
Or is your new model always better for finding treasure than the zahori?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P,

As I read in other part that some persons can't achieve a beep with it, I suspect they build complicate version. This severals mods. I make near 15 years ago. Since I and my group found an old gold gross chain at near 1 meter depth, I believe is useful for to find treasures.

One time, my brother-in-law use my Zahori and go in a site they saw as a light emanated from the soil. They saw it 30 years ago. They arrive in the site and found a hole excavated for others, and the device beeps and beeps, only in the place, but NEAR the hole. The persons who previously excavated don't found the treasure. My brother-in-law and others can't excavate in the place because the signal "explode" around the hole, and can't centrate. Also the landlord, a rich man, don't wish to continue in it!

IC 3130 (input) BURN here! Treasure = energy!

Don't know if is better than my new experimental devices, only I know go depth.

The small problem is that once I found a complete 100 m roll of wire for fence somebody forgot and the years buried few centimeters. This roll of many turns of wire for fences also was detected.

But I know also is sensitive to electric lines, fluorescents lamps. Is for use in fields free of interference.

Hi,
"One time, my brother-in-law use my Zahori and go in a site they saw as a light emanated from the soil. They saw it 30 years ago. They arrive in the site and found a hole excavated for others, and the device beeps and beeps, only in the place, but NEAR the hole. The persons who previously excavated don't found the treasure. My brother-in-law and others can't excavate in the place because the signal "explode" around the hole, and can't centrate. Also the landlord, a rich man, don't wish to continue in it!

IC 3130 (input) BURN here! Treasure = energy! "



It's comic now ! Can't resist ...to laugh !

What a PILE OF BS.

"One time, my brother-in-law use my Zahori and go in a site they saw as a light emanated from the soil."

Now there is also light from the Earth down in Paraguay.... Esteban C'mon...
Light from treasure ! And maybe a big X that say you where to dig the hole !

"IC 3130 (input) BURN here!"

this is possible, input can be overloaded , hi-impedance etc but seems strange that supposed signal from a buried treasure could burn the input stage of any op. amp. !

Are those SA treasures emanating microwaves or strong ionizing radiations ??? No...maybe some military sat pointed your LRL during search !

BUT THIS BEAT EVERYTHING TILL NOW:
"Treasure = energy!"

It's the new mass-energy relation by our novel Einstein.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Hi esteban,

That was an excellent description of how you think it works. Thank you.This almost sounds like using an AC electromagnet to demagnetize. It makes me wonder if there is a magnetized component in the location of the target that is demagnetized when a detector coil is passed over the area.

Best wishes,
J_P

Oh yeah, like a degauss-coil in a TV set...

BUT THEN PHENOMENON IS MAGNETIC NOW ?

So how an electrometer could detect it ?

AND GOLD ? IS MAGNETIC NOW ?

I remember is just a few diamagnetic !

ALL BS.

ALL STORIES.

ALL FANTASIES.

AND LRL IS JUST ANOTHER SPIT IN THE OCEAN OF HUMAN STUPIDITY.

[Esteban]

Max

Also I built exactly as magazine, and maybe doesn't work for treasure hunting. Mi intention never was for to find water. So, I make many modifications and added audio stage and other circuit.

Yes, electric fields of treasure is very strong, no of treasure inside iron box.

You can must able in build this (nothing to see with stethic!) and walk in inland for to take conclussions.

ALL BS. The article doesn't say anything of mods required to find water flows!

Mr. "INTELLIGENT":
Of course, article no refers modification!!! These are mine!!! What "intelligent" you are for not to see this. Or best, you're a big LIAR.
Light from treasure ! And maybe a big X that say you where to dig the hole !

Ahhh!!! You can see the halo, only you!!!

If you're the cure, Medice, cure te ipsum.

[Max]

Max

Also I built exactly as magazine, and maybe doesn't work for treasure hunting. Mi intention never was for to find water. So, I make many modifications and added audio stage and other circuit.

Yes, electric fields of treasure is very strong, no of treasure inside iron box.

You can must able in build this (nothing to see with stethic!) and walk in inland for to take conclussions.

ALL BS. The article doesn't say anything of mods required to find water flows!

Mr. "INTELLIGENT":
Of course, article no refers modification!!! These are mine!!! What "intelligent" you are for not to see this. Or best, you're a big LIAR.
Light from treasure ! And maybe a big X that say you where to dig the hole !

Ahhh!!! You can see the halo, only you!!!

If you're the cure, Medice, cure te ipsum.

Hi,
HALO on MD is another story Esteban. Not the story you tell here.
No light. Just few cms detection more on a sensitive MD... that's all.
No light, no energy.

Treasure = ENERGY is a fool's equation.

"
Mr. "INTELLIGENT":
Of course, article no refers modification!!! These are mine!!! What "intelligent" you are for not to see this. Or best, you're a big LIAR.
"

intelligent or not... I'm not a liar.
Circuit was claimed of finding water flows and it doesn't.
Article doesn't talk of modifications required to do this.
FACTS.

You claimed that it detects metals. It's not.
FACTS.

Your are just words and words that hit with FACTS.

LIAR ME ? YOU ARE A LIAR WHEN SAY THAT THIS THING DETECTS METALS.
BIG LIE FOR A BIG LIAR.

FACTS ARE WITH ME.

Now you say that it needs mods and other BS for the fools.

ALL BS. ALL LIES.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

HI,
BE FACTUAL ESTEBAN.

POST JUST ONE CIRCUIT FOR PEOPLE TO TEST, YOU CLAIM FUNCTIONAL DETECTING E.G. A COIN ON SURFACE SOIL FROM 2 METERS AWAY.

DO IT.

AND IF IT WORKS I'LL BE THE LIAR AND YOU THE INTELLIGENT.

BUT TILL THEN YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BIG LIAR HERE.

EVERYBODY SEE YOUR ATTEMPTS OF CLAIMING MODS NOW... THAT YOUR PREVIOUS POSTED CIRCUIT IS PUBLICLY KNOWN AS NOT-WORKING.

GIVE US FACTS, NOT WORDS... OR SHUT-UP.

KIND REGARDS,
MAX

[Max]

C'MON

POST THAT UNIQUE SCHEMATIC, SO EVERYBODY CAN TEST HERE.

I WANNA SEE IF YOU HAVE ONE ! JUST ONE FUNCTIONAL!

BUT YOU HAVEN'T THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM ESTEBAN.

NOT 100 mods... PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE-SINGLE-SCHEMATIC AND POST HERE.

BE FACTUAL AT LEAST ONE TIME IN YOUR LIFE.

[Esteban]

Circuit was claimed of finding water flows and it doesn't.
Article doesn't talk of modifications required to do this.
FACTS.

And what!!! Short of view from your part. If the text not refers mods., I CAN, ALWAYS, for other purpose, no only for to find water. If difficult for you to understand it?

This is FALSE: Never I assure it can find water, article refers, not me.

You claimed that it detects metals. It's not.
FACTS.

Your are just words and words that hit with FACTS.

Yes, detects with modifications I made ...and other more.

[Esteban]

"C'MON

POST THAT UNIQUE SCHEMATIC, SO EVERYBODY CAN TEST HERE.

I WANNA SEE IF YOU HAVE ONE ! JUST ONE FUNCTIONAL!

BUT YOU HAVEN'T THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM ESTEBAN.


First of all, I have and much.


NOT 100 mods... PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE-SINGLE-SCHEMATIC AND POST HERE.

BE FACTUAL AT LEAST ONE TIME IN YOUR LIFE."


For demonstrate what?