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  • #46
    First, I was witness from 1979 and many times through the years.

    There are many photos since the 60's at today. Do you think all the persons are in implication through the years for to make all these pictures in prevention the existence of Geotech and Internet? Many years of photographic evidence only for TO LIE?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Esteban
      First, I was witness from 1979 and many times through the years.

      There are many photos since the 60's at today. Do you think all the persons are in implication through the years for to make all these pictures in prevention the existence of Geotech and Internet? Many years of photographic evidence only for TO LIE?
      I'm not saying that anyone is lying. I'm not judging your photos in any way. I'm simply saying that I will remain skeptical of an LRL claim -- of any kind, and from any source -- until I see for myself some kind of reliable, repeatable evidence that the claim is true. In the same way that I remain skeptical of alien visits, even when someone in Roswell claims to have photos of a UFO.

      It's nothing against you, or anyone in the photos... suggest some experiments that will demonstrate the viability of an LRL technique, and I will pursue it.

      - Carl

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      • #48
        They are persons with the foot on EARTH, no alliens in the AIR (in all the acceptations of the word) who visit us with his "amazing gadgets". From my short vision analisis, all the non-well instruments are gadgets.

        Also, I think is unequal to compare a spot in the sky (the UFO?) with the physical "gadgets" I show here.

        Do you believe that the astronauts visit the Moon? Where is the evidence? Photos? Films? Voices? Do you are present for to confirm is real? My advantage is this: I was present many times during long range detection.

        Long range metal detector is not a perfect technology, such as is no perfect metal detector.

        My old question: Is more easy to put a man in the Moon (384,000 km) than detect —not at distance— a only coin at 1 m depth?

        Something fails.

        THE METAL DETECTOR RADAR REDISCOVERED (AT VERY LOW COST):

        In internet can to find a radar for detect metals (INFORMATIVE, read all the PDF) in:

        http://www.llnl.gov/IPandC/technolog...adar/index.php

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        • #49
          MORE INFO ABOUT THE RADAR:

          LAWRENCE LIVERMORE NATIONAL LABORATORY SEEKS LICENSEES FROM INDUSTRY TO COMMERCIALIZE LLNL’S MAGNETO-RADAR/FIELD DISTURBANCE SENSOR AND METHODS, FOR METAL AND NON-METAL DETECTION, DERIVED FROM MICROPOWER IMPULSE RADAR (MIR) TECHNOLOGIES AND METHODS



          Announcement: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL), operated by the University of California under contract with the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), is seeking one or more licensees to commercialize LLNL’S current patents and a newly allowed, soon to be published patent covering the Magneto-Radar/Field Disturbance Sensor and Methods, for metal and non-metal detection, derived from Micropower Impulse Radar (MIR) Technologies and Methods technology.

          • The Magneto-Radar is a completely new approach to a motion and range detection sensor for conductive materials whether metal or non metal.

          • Materials may possibly be detected at greater depths and located with greater precision than present technology can achieve by detection at remote distances of very small vibrations such as from a turning fork induced in the targets. Ground balance problems are either eliminated or substantially reduced in most cases.

          • Low-cost potential applications exist in treasure hunting equipment, medical, industrial, mining, security and safety screening, and analytical equipment. LLNL’s licensed field disturbance technology with range gating has been the basis for other products and other applications such as range controlled radar motion sensor for security application products selling commercially for under seventy dollars ($70) in the quantity of one.

          • MIR and field disturbance sensors provide range to object information while screening out clutter and discriminating from other signals due to the environment, false positives or movement signals outside its range-gated region.

          • The MIR or field disturbance sensors can detect small vibrations, such as from a tuning fork, or steel guitar strings.

          • Varying frequencies and inter-modulation products of induced magnetic field targets may possibly provide more information to distinguish and identify them from other materials or movements.

          These technologies and methods relate to employing a portable, low-power, battery operated radar to sense and locate (range to object) even microscopic mechanically excited motion or vibration in objects such as but not limited to conductive and nonconductive bio-materials, including ferrous and non ferrous metals, wherein the mechanical vibration and resonance may be the result of mechanical, acoustic, magnetic, optical or electromagnetic excitation. In many cases, the aforementioned materials can be detected at greater depths and located with greater precision than present technology can achieve. Ground balance problems are either eliminated or substantially reduced by utilizing either the range gating and sensitive motion features of these technologies in combination or separately.

          The MIR and field disturbance sensors are range-gated radars, which provide range to object information while screening out clutter, false positives or movement signals outside its range-gated region. The MIR and field disturbance sensor can be used in three capacities: (1) non-magneto, (2) magneto, or (3) contrast. When used in the non-magneto capacity, the MIR and field disturbance sensor provides a substantially improved means of detecting stationary mechanically and/or acoustically (ex. for use in detection between walls in a building) induced vibrating and resonating objects and materials. In the magneto capacity, the magnetically or electromagnetically induced vibration and resonance of an object can be detected via a characteristic double harmonic frequency. Third, the radar can also detect the target object through microscopic movement resulting from changes in the size, image or contrast of the object.

          The Magneto-Radar using either LLNL’s MIR or the field disturbance sensor is a completely new approach to motion and range detection sensor technology using a bipolar generator, which generates unique double harmonics detectable by MIR or the field disturbance sensor. The MIR and field disturbance sensors are a new low-cost implementation of a pulse echo radar. Conventional radar pulses travel at the speed of light and require an oscilloscope for high speed sweeps in even nanoseconds, but LLNL's MIR and field disturbance sensor uses a time expansion technology known as equivalent time allowing it to sweep a million times slower or on a millisecond scale. This range-gated radar operates as a pulse echo system that clocks the two way time of flight of a very short electrical pulse. It involves using a bipolar magnetic field to induce an eddy current in the target object generating a corresponding magnetic field (detectable phase shift relied upon by traditional metal detectors for determining various materials based on conductivity), transmitting various radar frequency signals to the conductive object, receiving reflected radar signals resulting from motion in the object, and processing the receive radar signals to produce an output signal that corresponds to a harmonic and/or an inter-modulation product of the resonating target object in the magnetic field. The MIR radar transmits short, ultra-wideband electromagnetic pulses and the receiver is designed to only receive signals from a preset range(s) R. If there are no changes within or at range R, then the integrated return signal remains constant because stationary clutter signals are integrated as part of the constant return. However, if anything penetrates the shell, it will change the reflectivity in range R, which causes a change in the detectable return signal attributed to motion. Through doing this as well, the varying frequencies of the induced magnetic field targets can be more readily distinguished and identified from other materials or movements through harmonic analysis. For example, when the magnetic excitation varies sinusoidally at a frequency F, the resulting resonance of the conductive object may occur at, but is not limited to 2F, providing a unique harmonic signature that is detected by the motion sensing MIR radar (ex. a bipolar excitation frequency of 60 Hz would result in a harmonic frequency of 120 Hz).

          Since the magnetic field of a traditional metal detector must travel out to the object and then couple back to the generator, a sixth order decrease in signal strength versus range results, forming a formidable limitation in range. In fact, it is estimated that traditional metal detectors can only detect coins and jewelry at depths of only approximately 8 inches. In the case of the Magneto-Radar, however, induction of the target and magnetic field emanating from the target object can be obtained via use of the coil of a traditional metal detector or via a more powerful custom magnetic field generator. The strength of the induced magnetic field is usually directly proportional to the detection range. Significantly increased magnetic field strength can be obtained by generating short duration, high peak power, pulsed magnetic fields, even with traditional metal detector coils, without overheating the coil because of the extremely short duty cycle of the MIR or the field disturbance sensor needed to recognize movement of the target.

          Additional technical information on Micropower Impulse Radar (MIR) Technologies and Methods can be obtained at:

          http://www.llnl.gov/IPandC/technology/profile/sensor/MicropowerImpulseRadar

          LLNL is seeking licensees with a demonstrated ability to bring such inventions to the market. Moving critical technology beyond the Laboratory to the commercial world helps our licensees gain a competitive edge in the marketplace. All licensing activities are conducted under policies relating to the strict nondisclosure of company proprietary information.

          If you have further questions, contact: Bill Grant, at (925) 423-3082; or grant9@llnl.gov.

          Companies interested in commercializing this technology should provide a written statement of interest that must include a description of corporate capability and experience relevant to this technology.



          Written responses should be submitted by completing our online Company Contact form.

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          • #50
            Here the radar. The cost is the very cheap (US$ 70):
            Attached Files

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            • #51
              Sorry. Change:

              THE METAL DETECTOR RADAR REDISCOVERED (AT VERY LOW COST)

              by:

              THE METAL DETECTOR RADAR (AT VERY LOW COST)

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              • #52
                Clueless

                Everybody,

                I find patent of secret llnl device to share with all.

                Esteban, you provide interesting data to all.

                Carl, check dns address, to link maybe pdf to be provided.

                http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...lse)+AND+Radar)

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                • #53
                  FreePatentsonline provides with drawings in PDF and many links with similar patents:

                  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6914552.html

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                  • #54
                    Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish!!
                    Dennis
                    USAF Ret.
                    "A liberal is man too broad-minded to take his own side in a quarrel."
                    -- Robert Frost


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                    • #55
                      this circuit is not for treasure hunters

                      Hi everbody,
                      Esteban
                      in the article they say
                      this circuıt makes signs with 15cm wavelenghts which means something like 1.8 Giga hertz.do you remember home-made GPR results .it is working with 250Mhz and can penetrate up to 2 meters. with 1.8Ghz you could only see underfloor like they show in their pages.it not really for treasure hunters.may be for engineers .
                      have a nice day
                      okantex

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                      • #56
                        Radar mean more than works at X Ghz. Mean transmiter-reflection-receiver and process. Any system wich uses the principle works as radar in ANY FREQUENCY.

                        Also is for treasure hunting. I think you don't read all the documents.

                        Post 11/11/2005:

                        • Materials may possibly be detected at greater depths and located with greater precision than present technology can achieve by detection at remote distances of very small vibrations such as from a turning fork induced in the targets. Ground balance problems are either eliminated or substantially reduced in most cases.

                        * * * * * * * * *

                        These technologies and methods relate to employing a portable, low-power, battery operated radar to sense and locate (range to object) even microscopic mechanically excited motion or vibration in objects such as but not limited to conductive and nonconductive bio-materials, including ferrous and non ferrous metals, wherein the mechanical vibration and resonance may be the result of mechanical, acoustic, magnetic, optical or electromagnetic excitation. In many cases, the aforementioned materials can be detected at greater depths and located with greater precision than present technology can achieve. Ground balance problems are either eliminated or substantially reduced by utilizing either the range gating and sensitive motion features of these technologies in combination or separately.
                        Attached Files

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                        • #57
                          Largesarge: We need more ideas than Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish!! Words like this no contribute. Largesarge need largeneck for to see the extended horizons.

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                          • #58
                            Thanks for the valuable information Esteban.
                            I will go deeply into it as a plus to use along my Mineoro detector.
                            Will discuss this with you by email.
                            Tchau amigo!
                            "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                            • #59
                              After twenty years in radar maintence I know that the higher the freq. the easier it is to attenuate. A search radar operating at say 80 MHZ could get it's 210 Mi. range with about 100 KW RF power but a height finder operating at 2 GHZ needed 2 MW power to get the same range. An SLBM detection radar modified from the aforementioned height finder needed both TXMR's pumping out 2 meg apiece (approx 4 meg accumulated) to reach out about a 1000 mi. and needed a cryogenically cooled front end to Rx the return signals.

                              It was one cool piece of equipment and after we worked the bugs out we had an 80% operational rate, not bad for a half analog, half digital cobbled together, stop gap system that lasted far longer than it was intended to.

                              The point is this unless you want to lug around lots of battery power to support a high power TX and a couple of Peltier units to cool the front end of your RX, I would suggest you stay in the low KNZ range. I would dare say it would be a whole lot cheaper too.
                              Dennis
                              USAF Ret.
                              "A liberal is man too broad-minded to take his own side in a quarrel."
                              -- Robert Frost


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                              • #60
                                thanks Largesarge

                                I am not an electronition and english is not my native language.
                                so escuse me for some tecnical words.what is Mi
                                I have used deposit finding unit.
                                inside it, there were 2.7 pikofarad condensators and it's aproximately L was something like 4.8 microhenry .so it must be working something like 50Mhz
                                and be sure that there were no cooling equipment inside
                                and we found gold coin inside a little cup at 4 meters.

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